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[mrPMP]

I just want to put  my two cents in on this. I've read all the threads been watchin the scene for quite a while and I'm not a noob to xbox live and how they work. I'm convinced that the way live is banning people is the way Commodore mentioned about DMI/ss/pfi/stealth etc on the discs people are burning. All other measures just require to many resources for them and we all know M$ is pretty lazy when it comes to working. To date I don't know of one Toshiba Samsung drive that has been banned for only playing the latest ripped games homemade with the latest checks  (DMi/ss/pfi/stealth) and with 5.+firmware. IF you downloaded games off the net your not 100% sure it was ripped correctly unless its a verified uploader on a privite site. Even then ur still playing with fire.

[Nailed]

QUOTE(Schnick1 @ May 24 2007, 06:05 PM)

This may work fine (without logging) but you had better work fast when flashing because if the power did shut off (after 5 min.) while flashing the drive you WILL BRICK your drive.  Just a heads up!

I came so close to doing that once!  Didn't realize the video cable wasn't plugged in and the 360 shutdown about 2 seconds after the flash finished.  Heed this warning!

[gymguy]

QUOTE(Schnick1 @ May 24 2007, 06:05 PM)

This may work fine (without logging) but you had better work fast when flashing because if the power did shut off (after 5 min.) while flashing the drive you WILL BRICK your drive. Just a heads up!


I came so close to doing that once! Didn't realize the video cable wasn't plugged in and the 360 shutdown about 2 seconds after the flash finished. Heed this warning!

And if you dont finish the flash  within 5 minutes can the drive be saved via the bad flash method ? (samsung only)

[Trunks360]

QUOTE(gymguy @ May 25 2007, 04:17 AM)

QUOTE(Schnick1 @ May 24 2007, 06:05 PM)

This may work fine (without logging) but you had better work fast when flashing because if the power did shut off (after 5 min.) while flashing the drive you WILL BRICK your drive. Just a heads up!
I came so close to doing that once! Didn't realize the video cable wasn't plugged in and the 360 shutdown about 2 seconds after the flash finished. Heed this warning!

And if you dont finish the flash  within 5 minutes can the drive be saved via the bad flash method ? (samsung only)

Also is it really exactly 5 min so that i can use a stopwatch?

[rgtaa]

5 minute shut off with video cable NOT plugged in ... I timed it.

10 second method on m25/28 ... 30 seconds start to finish.  

I don't see a problem!  

[syntaxerror329]

QUOTE(Schnick1 @ May 24 2007, 04:40 PM)

The only difference is that the original xbox used yellow wires.  The 360 uses black wires.  Other than that the dvd drive power/eject cables are identical

Yeah, I know the damn cable is the same. We were talking about the pinout.

In other words you could not power a xbox 360 dvd drive by connecting it to a xbox 1 motherboard.

[mace1337]

QUOTE(rgtaa @ May 25 2007, 03:52 PM)

5 minute shut off with video cable NOT plugged in ... I timed it.

10 second method on m25/28 ... 30 seconds start to finish.  

I don't see a problem!  

The problem is human stupidity, and Murphy's law, both closely related.

And as Albert Einstein so aptly put it:

"Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity;
and I'm not certain about the universe."

[MythiK]

C4E annouced the day of the launch? tomorrow? after tomorrow?

[DarrenR]

He said weekend release date possibly, but you never know. There could be bugs in the firmware and there could even be some still being banned. If it's not Saturday or Sunday don't expect the release till next weekend.

[Biablo]

Anyone know if an unbanned 360 can play originals on live and not get banned?

[hordak]

QUOTE(Biablo @ May 25 2007, 05:11 PM)

Anyone know if an unbanned 360 can play originals on live and not get banned?

Well that works for me, but if they have logged people then its just a matter of time.

[jayce0481]

anyone ever tried tradeing consouls with a freiend who is banned  calling m$ telling them you bought a used counsol from a flea market or some thing and playing the dumb role asking way it won't connect to live i'm willing to bet that they can remotely reset the consouls they would have to.   think about this sanerio for a second everone thats selling there banned consouls to poor unspecting people and you would end up being that person  i highly dout m$ will just turn around and say your shit out of luck in that case.   but once reset im sure what every caused the flag to go up in the first place will be sent rite back up again example booting without drive connected or playing a burned game thats ripped wrong and i highly dout that there detecting firmware changes it self there's to many errors that could happen in this dectection method  n huge company like M$ isn't that dumb i hope.   just a thought to possibly try

[mace1337]

QUOTE(jayce0481 @ May 25 2007, 09:59 PM)

anyone ever tried tradeing consouls with a freiend who is banned  calling m$ telling them you bought a used counsol from a flea market or some thing and playing the dumb role asking way it won't connect to live i'm willing to bet that they can remotely reset the consouls they would have to.   think about this sanerio for a second everone thats selling there banned consouls to poor unspecting people and you would end up being that person  i highly dout m$ will just turn around and say your shit out of luck in that case.   but once reset im sure what every caused the flag to go up in the first place will be sent rite back up again example booting without drive connected or playing a burned game thats ripped wrong and i highly dout that there detecting firmware changes it self there's to many errors that could happen in this dectection method  n huge company like M$ isn't that dumb i hope.   just a thought to possibly try

Here: ..............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Some comma's and points, you seem to have run out.  

To comment on your idea, I think it will NOT be so easy to unban consoles.
MS is probably going to screw you by saying that it is the risk you've taken by buying second-hand stuff.

[yamdankee]

QUOTE(jayce0481 @ May 25 2007, 08:59 PM)

i highly dout m$ will just turn around and say your shit out of luck in that case.

I don't.

(And for God's sake would you put at least a little effort into spelling and grammar?)

[gymguy]

QUOTE(mace1337 @ May 25 2007, 04:16 PM)

Here: ..............,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Some comma's and points, you seem to have run out.  

To comment on your idea, I think it will NOT be so easy to unban consoles.
MS is probably going to screw you by saying that it is the risk you've taken by buying second-hand stuff.

QUOTE(yamdankee @ May 25 2007, 04:30 PM)

I don't.

(And for God's sake would you put at least a little effort into spelling and grammar?)

First off this is not English class so everyone that is complaining about grammar can just stop now! Also to the guy with the idea about calling MS and straight up lying to them to try and get back on live, You knew the risk when you opened the 360 and this site does will not condone this kind of post. With more post like that you will not only be banned from xbox live but also from this site!