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[BlackWaterOp]

QUOTE(TripseV @ May 22 2007, 10:19 AM)

I still don't see why MS would ban in waves.
The ban is a punishment, how is it a punishment to let people play another week/month before being banned.
What do they have to gain from waves of bans?

There is an argument to this: M$ would sell more consoles
The counter is: M$ will spend more money issuing updates for the new FW

Either way I am not banned yet and have stopped playing backups alltogether.
I play the H3 Beta everyday for at least an hour and haven't benn banned (knock on wood)

[BEVEL]

QUOTE(BlackWaterOp @ May 22 2007, 03:46 PM)

There is an argument to this: M$ would sell more consoles
The counter is: M$ will spend more money issuing updates for the new FW

Either way I am not banned yet and have stopped playing backups alltogether.
I play the H3 Beta everyday for at least an hour and haven't benn banned (knock on wood)

As C4E said, the banning is being doen manually.
So its logic that banning is being done in waves, because there has to be checking and double checking.
Go ahead and play HL3 while you can... and report back when you're banned.

[TripseV]

QUOTE(BlackWaterOp @ May 22 2007, 04:46 PM)

There is an argument to this: M$ would sell more consoles
The counter is: M$ will spend more money issuing updates for the new FW

Either way I am not banned yet and have stopped playing backups alltogether.
I play the H3 Beta everyday for at least an hour and haven't benn banned (knock on wood)

How do they sell more consoles depending on when some one gets banned?

[gamemaster14]

Begun, this ban war has......

[ezmoney]

as always much thanks to C4E for his unending work at this!!

[Ranger72]

QUOTE(chris_mouland3 @ May 22 2007, 08:35 AM)

Can someone answer this?
If a Samsung drive (flashed with the new iXtreme firmware) is put into an xbox 360 that originally had a Hitachi drive (drive is spoofed obviously), would that make the system safer than if the Hitachi was kept? Or have MS found a way of detecting spoofed drives too?

I think someone asked this before, but didnt get a good reply.

Thanks

I have an Elite that had a Hitacki 78 drive that I replaced with a Samsung ms28 and I have not been baned from Live yet.

But then I don't play many backups ether.

[ryanworrell]

QUOTE(romm2002a @ May 22 2007, 08:32 AM)

Just a thought, If M$ some how has some detection to detect the DVD drive from ever being disconnected from the motherboard, does this not also apply to consoles that had gone back to M$ for repair?
How would M$ distinguish between a legitimate removal of the drive and a not legitimate removal of the drive?
Or does Microsoft somehow reset that flag when doing repairs on the consoles?

Again, just a thought... im no expert in the field what so ever. just a NooB

I hope this ain't an issue. My xbox was replaced by M$ RMA. Surely they have a way of checking this stuff.

[Obveron]

QUOTE(chris_mouland3 @ May 22 2007, 08:35 AM)

Can someone answer this?
If a Samsung drive (flashed with the new iXtreme firmware) is put into an xbox 360 that originally had a Hitachi drive (drive is spoofed obviously), would that make the system safer than if the Hitachi was kept? Or have MS found a way of detecting spoofed drives too?

I think someone asked this before, but didnt get a good reply.

Thanks

I just bought a virgin 360, but it has a hitachi drive   I have a ms25 drive from my banned 360.  I would also like to know the possible repercussions of spoofing.  I'd like to flash the ms25 with the new ixtreme (when it comes out) and stick it in the vrigin 360.  But if spoofing will not be a possibility, then I might aswell return this virgin 360 right now.

[bLiTz 2k]

QUOTE(kylec2425 @ May 22 2007, 12:37 AM)

Yes this has indeed been something that has confused many of us, Me personally i think it has to be the fact that it registers some kind of data to the console and microsoft can some how recognize it, AND the media read speed that differs from using a retail disc aside from a back up you made from the disc you own.

I'm strongly looking forward to this new firmware update, and wont have any problem buying another system and testing out the new firmware, i hate microsoft for their dictation on how we use our own hardware that we pay money for, but hey... when you're money hungry you go all out...

Money hungry? Because obviously paying for your software is a ridiculous notion to comprehend...Gotta love people who feel piracy is a right.

[Blank]

QUOTE(Johnwinger @ May 22 2007, 08:54 AM)

After losing my console to Microsoft I basicly lost all faith in the modding community. They knew the crap could be seen by Microsoft yet did nothing to prevent.

Now after 10s of thousands of people lose their consoles do they even consider a new firmware upgrade.

I'm through modding. Its not worth the risk.

Oh boo fucking hoo. Seriously, you knew the risks when you decided to flash your console. Period. Don't blame the whole modding community because you're a dumbass. My god...  

[redwolf]

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I still don't see why MS would ban in waves.
The ban is a punishment, how is it a punishment to let people play another week/month before being banned.
What do they have to gain from waves of bans?

their call centres will blow up, imagine how many people will try to call them at once

[leon111]

when c4eva says you cannot power from the 360, does this mean the new xeno top loader i bought is ueless?

[elcazador]

QUOTE(leon111 @ May 22 2007, 12:05 PM)

when c4eva says you cannot power from the 360, does this mean the new xeno top loader i bought is ueless?

Correct. Actually Xeno top gear makes my system freeze. So i cant use it anyway. Plus i like keeping my 360 open. i have no casing on it. keeps it cooler. so i can readily remove the dvd drive to flash it. its upto you. move the big box to your pc or the small drive...

[RuFf rYdA]

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After losing my console to Microsoft I basicly lost all faith in the modding community. They knew the crap could be seen by Microsoft yet did nothing to prevent.

Now after 10s of thousands of people lose their consoles do they even consider a new firmware upgrade.

I'm through modding. Its not worth the risk.

Im wondering why the scene is getting filled up with arrogant people who dont know anything about the scene
Back in the day there wasnt any of these guys

[antz1970]

nvm