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Sonicjam

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« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2007, 12:36:00 AM »

well i'm not ban i have a modded dvd drive i try to run a back but its not working for some reason and i have a 47dj with 2.4fw i also have a retail copy of crackdown.
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naota

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« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2007, 12:49:00 AM »

OK, let's see.

-I bought my 360 in January.
-Logged in to Live to get some demos before I flashed it.
-I flashed it.
-Been online with backups, but only with Oblivion and TDU to get patches, then disconnected.
-I live in Hungary where the Live is still offline so I had to use US and UK registrations.

Sum: NOT banned.

The only thing I didn't do is to change firmware recently.
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out4it

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« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2007, 12:53:00 AM »

From my personal experiences here's what I think. The newest Hitachi FW works!!! I have flashed to drives for people who never had any other FW except stock to the new 2.4. This is their first flash. Both downloaded Halo 3 beta with a BACKUP of crackdown and are fine now for 2 days after banning. I think M$ did data collection before the update and it was random collection as far as days,games ,etc. Thats why some people who upgraded fw's over and over are still on. Just my 25 cents!! Both drives are 47dj's.

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RiPpN-N-TrIppN

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« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2007, 01:00:00 AM »

i bought a new core console less then 2 weeks ago
before i even got home i flashed it to 2.4 (its a hitachi DJ47)
then when i got home i updated the dash
since then ive been on live with a few games played crackdown and h3 beta
and im not banned
Rip
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DrPepperFan15

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« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2007, 01:10:00 AM »

QUOTE(RiPpN-N-TrIppN @ May 19 2007, 02:00 AM) View Post

i bought a new core console less then 2 weeks ago
before i even got home i flashed it to 2.4 (its a hitachi DJ47)
then when i got home i updated the dash
since then ive been on live with a few games played crackdown and h3 beta
and im not banned
Rip



lol.... not yet. Microsoft has a tendency to ban with delay. Be careful and happy hacking!
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Neolistic

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« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2007, 02:20:00 AM »

Both my friend and i have hitachi drives. We both started out with 2.3 firmware since march, and both updated to spring update. Then a couple days later i upgraded my hitachi 47 with 2.4, my friend stayed at 2.3 firmware. We were both banned on the same day.

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bigtem

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« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2007, 02:52:00 AM »

if m$ are banning based on your consoles serial number, is there a way to change this serial number like the imei of a mobile phone ? -
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« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2007, 05:55:00 AM »

Ok, this could be nothing but u never know.....

I have unplugged the ethernet cable from my 360(not banned yet) and have fired up call of duty 3 and c&c 3 both back-ups. If i try and play online I have a guest account.

I have never noticed this before and this guest account has an live connection......I have tried to sign into it, but it wont let me.......the guest account vanishes as soon as you go back to your dashboard.

Like I said could be nothing, more than likely just me been paranoid.......
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mtsmylie

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« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2007, 07:58:00 AM »

I should be receiving a 360 Premium next week, which is a refurb, but was just flashed last week right before being sent to me.

So if this theory is correct, I'll be able to connect to Live as soon as I set it up, as long as I don't play a backup on it first. I'll let you guys know what happens, because it seems like that will prove things one way or another.
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« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2007, 08:55:00 AM »

I've spent some time thinking about it, and here's my theory on everything:

All signs appear they've been tracking the use of modded firmware for some time now, and it appears not one type of drive is safe.  The jitter fix may work and actually hide backups from M$, but it may have come too late.  But, why would they ban consoles instead of killing live accounts or blocking backups from playing on live or altogether?  Well, if they really want to deter people from modding their consoles, the risk of getting it permanently unplayable on Live is the way to go.  It forces you to go out and buy another console if you want to play online - are you really going to risk getting a second one banned, just so you can play backups?  Probably not.  If they were to just kill live accounts - big deal, you get a new account for cheap.  If they just blocked backups from playing, it would just be a matter of time before C4E, GaryOPA realease some new firmware that circumvent that problem.
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2007, 10:31:00 AM »

for the past few days i have been reading alot of posts about the bans trying to find a pattern like everyone else. last night i said screw it and decided to see if i could get banned. i hadnt got the spring update but i had already updated to 5.3a. so i backed up my Retail Crackdown and decided to sign onto live and get the halo3 beta.at sign on it said there was an update for my console (spring update) so i agreed. rebooted.....loaded the backup of crackdown. then there was an update for the game.....got it. rebooted. downloaded Halo beta. then rebooted.....no ban. then loaded up my Madden07 backup...and played a full game online....rebooted....signed onto live again.....still no ban.the only thing i havent done is play the halo3 Beta.

the drive im using came from a 3red lite box that i bought. never modded until i put 5.2b on it 2 weeks ago.then put 5.3a on it when it was released.(ms28 drive with ms25 logic board so actually its an ms25)
so the only thing is i havent played is the beta as i said. Maybe its the Halo3 that is responsible?
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apw100

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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2007, 10:42:00 AM »

still not banned.


- "Pro" system
- MS25 w/ 5.3a firmware(registered correctly as MS-25)

Possibly important facts-

- The first and only time I have flashed the firmware was 1 day before the Spring Update
- I have NEVER played a backup game on my 360. I have tested a few backed up games to see if they worked, but I have never gone past the menu. Specifically, I have never played or saved a game that was on a backup disc. This makes me wonder if 360's are being banned based on some data retrieved from their hard drive or memory cards. I dunno...
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Harry1

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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2007, 10:44:00 AM »

Im assuming it has something to do with save data like each disc is assigned its own data key and then microsoft downloaded the dumps and banned the saves that included  the data and thus thats probably how they figured it out
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2007, 11:07:00 AM »

I have 2 machines both where running hacked firmwares 78 and 47 dj 1.7 on both.
both have played backed ups of halo 3 beta.now i found out about the bans so retsored one to standard frimware but left the hardrive unformated with stuff on it .
plugged into live and whalllopp banned.
now the other one restored that aswell but formated the hard drive and that one is fine no ban.
my conclusion is its the info on the hard drive cos my cousin formated his hard drive and still has a hacked firmware and his is fine ,and he has played the beta halo3 ,but has since formated everthing away.FINE.
seems somthing to do with info on the hdd
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GreenStang99

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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2007, 11:30:00 AM »

Not Banned

- Brand New Xbox 360 premium purchased 1 week before the Spring Update from Best Buy
- MS25 reporting as MS25 manufactured 2006-6-18
- Flashed with Xtreme 5.3c (first and only flash for the system) 2 days AFTER the update was out, but flashed BEFORE downloading the update
- Have ONLY been playing backup discs over the past couple weeks with NO ORIGINALS ever being put in to play
- Played GRAW 2, R6Vegas, and Halo 3 Beta online consistently with no problems yet
- When I play offline, I disconnect my wireless adapter from my system
- When the system is off, I unplug the wireless adapter (I have a conspiracy that says MS gets into your system even when it's off...kinda like the wii...to check your records)
- I continue to play all of my legitimately backed up and stealth patched games with no problem...YET

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