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[shuohan]

I have a geforce 6100 motherboard which has an nforce 4 sata controller and my 360 has a samsung with the ms28 firmware.  In all my searching I seem to find contradicting information on whether this sata controller will flash the dvd's firmware or not.

1. will I be able to flash my firmware with my motherboard and by doing the vcc resistor removal method?

2. is there a photo showing the resistor? The tutorial describing this procedure no longer has a photo.

Thanks guys.

[Illithid]

QUOTE(shuohan @ Feb 6 2007, 07:45 PM)

I have a geforce 6100 motherboard which has an nforce 4 sata controller and my 360 has a samsung with the ms28 firmware.  In all my searching I seem to find contradicting information on whether this sata controller will flash the dvd's firmware or not.

1. will I be able to flash my firmware with my motherboard and by doing the vcc resistor removal method?

2. is there a photo showing the resistor? The tutorial describing this procedure no longer has a photo.

Thanks guys.

I have a nForce 4 sata controller.
I have flashed MS25 and Hitachi v59B, and iv tried MS28 but i did not succeed.
If I where you, I would buy a controller card rather then removing a resistor, its not expensive at all.

[shuohan]

Thanks,

I'm still looking for a photo of the 0 ohm resistor on the DVD drive for the "VCC method" .  Like I said, the photo in the tutorial is gone.  Can somebody point me toward a new image? Thanks.

[-PK-]

http://www.360mods.net/Downloads/details/id=61.html

[jarhead2k3]

As the poster above me has linked to the tutorial which explains all the basics, including this. The ms28 cannot be flashed normally with the nforce4 chipset unless you want to solder some wires. The easiest way to flash that drive is get a via chipset and do the "bad flash recovery" method. There are plenty of posts about this in the forums, including the awesome tutorial by textbook.

[jROC99]

QUOTE(shuohan @ Feb 6 2007, 01:45 PM)

I have a geforce 6100 motherboard which has an nforce 4 sata controller and my 360 has a samsung with the ms28 firmware.  In all my searching I seem to find contradicting information on whether this sata controller will flash the dvd's firmware or not.

1. will I be able to flash my firmware with my motherboard and by doing the vcc resistor removal method?

2. is there a photo showing the resistor? The tutorial describing this procedure no longer has a photo.

Thanks guys.

I have also been trying to flash the ms28's with my nforce3 chipset.. no go...
I even tried removing the resistor and using a switch on the dvdrom itself
Not only that i have also tried the xecuter connectivity kit. v2.

I'm going to go buy a Sata card now with VIA chipset.
I'm tired of F***ing around with this S**t.

My system can flash the hitachi 46/47 and samsung ms25 fine.

[shuohan]

Hi again guys,

Thanks for all the responses.  After reading through textbook's tutorial I was able to flash mine.  As stated before I used the sata controller on the geforce 6100 integrated nforce 4 chipset to flash my ms28 firmware DVD drive.  I had to do the "vcc method" by removing the resistor and using two wires as a switch.

It should be noted the resistor is a surface mount part.  I rework surface mount components at work all the time, but with my home "hobby grade" iron (aka pos radio shack iron), it was kind of tough to do.  I tore out one pad and had to remove the solder mask on a portion of the trace the pad was attached to and used that contact point for one switch lead.  If you have a fine tipped iron (mine was all worn and fat), it shouldn't be a problem to do the soldering.

Otherwise, the tutorial procedure was excellent and everything worked per the tutorial.  Thanks again fellows.

ps.  I fed my switch wires out through the back of the DVD drive case (above the power plug) and will route that along with a sata splitting lead outside the box so I'll be able to close up the box and still manage the dvd drive's firmware.

[myfranco]

Well you chose the risky way but did it without a problem.Why didn't you buy a cheap via card? If you say you're an adventurer i respect  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[shuohan]

Well, it's not that the 10 dollar controller was expensive, I just didn't want to wait for newegg to send it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).  Also, I'm very comfortable working with pcb's with surface mount components as I'm an electrical engineer and I'm forced to modify batches of boards at work from time to time.

plus, I'm an adventurer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

If an average person did the vcc switch method with a thin iron and a good light and magnifying glass there's no reason they should mess it up.  I actually successfully soldered the leads to the two ends where the resistor used to go with my big blunt iron but accidentally tugged one wire and pulled off a pad so that's why I had to go back and repair it.

[Martinchris23]

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I have also been trying to flash the ms28's with my nforce3 chipset.. no go...
I even tried removing the resistor and using a switch on the dvdrom itself
Not only that i have also tried the xecuter connectivity kit. v2.

I'm going to go buy a Sata card now with VIA chipset.
I'm tired of F***ing around with this S**t.

My system can flash the hitachi 46/47 and samsung ms25 fine.

I successfully flashed the MS28 with a Nforce3 chipset over the weekend using the VCC resistor method.

Here's what I did (bascially):

Removed the resistor and soldered two wires to the points. The other end of the wires is a 2 pin header. I used an old motherboard jumper for this.

Booted off a DOS Floppy with NO IDE or SATA drives connected. Once I was at the DOS prompt, I connected the 360 to my Nforce 3 SATA and switched it on.

After a few seconds, I put the jumper on the header pin to short the connection. I then ran the MTKFLASH to read the old firmware. It took a few goes for the device to show, but I kept trying and got it in the end.

This post has been edited by Martinchris23: Feb 12 2007, 09:43 AM

[dibun75]

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Feb 12 2007, 09:12 AM)

I successfully flashed the MS28 with a Nforce3 chipset over the weekend using the VCC resistor method.

Here's what I did (bascially):

Removed the resistor and soldered two wires to the points. The other end of the wires is a 2 pin header. I used an old motherboard jumper for this.

Booted off a DOS Floppy with NO IDE or SATA drives connected. Once I was at the DOS prompt, I connected the 360 to my Nforce 3 SATA and switched it on.

After a few seconds, I put the jumper on the header pin to short the connection. I then ran the MTKFLASH to read the old firmware. It took a few goes for the device to show, but I kept trying and got it in the end.

After you flash the drive don't you have to resolder the resister back? Can you play original games on xbox live?

[frosty1]

I asked that exact question in another post... what about the old resistor?

[maozinha]

QUOTE(shuohan @ Feb 6 2007, 07:14 PM)

Thanks,

I'm still looking for a photo of the 0 ohm resistor on the DVD drive for the "VCC method" .  Like I said, the photo in the tutorial is gone.  Can somebody point me toward a new image? Thanks.

Hi sorry about my english (i'm brazilian), i have a Nforce 4 board with sil3132 interface, and Ms28 drive. I've flashed it WITHOUT desoldering the resistor, you can do that if you solder 2 wires in the back of the controller.

Then you need the basic, boot disk (used xtreme boot maker), fw (used 52d), mtkflash (used a modfied one mtkflash_nf4) and samtool. The olnly diference from the tutorial mentioned above is that instead of doing the flashing with the wires connected for some reason it worked for me like that :
Connect the wires, run the mtkflash will give you an error... open the wires run it again will show you the sata interface, choose the right one (in my case #1) then you got it.

I have the photos but i don't know how to place it (i tried but it didn't work...) if somebody wants that please help me to post it.

This post has been edited by maozinha: Feb 14 2007, 01:21 AM