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[Gazcoigne]

my pioneer 111D burns verbatim 2.4X printable media at 8X straight from the box.

backups work fine.

[mrthrust]

same drive ...no sure what firmware..

mine uses Aone 8x DVD+r DL 10 pack (£10 from KG AUDIO - local shop or 11(ish) on ebay)

8x on clone allways all backups working ok so far..

plus there printable..

[Gazcoigne]

QUOTE(mrthrust @ Jan 10 2007, 10:27 AM)

same drive ...no sure what firmware..

mine uses Aone 8x DVD+r DL 10 pack (£10 from KG AUDIO - local shop or 11(ish) on ebay)

8x on clone allways all backups working ok so far..

plus there printable..

personally i wouldnt touch that media, as crap media burns your laser out.

and why is it all about burning at X1 speed? rubbish.

[mrthrust]

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personally i wouldnt touch that media, as crap media burns your laser out.

well after using the drive nearly a year and had good use from it & if all backups are working fine
and i can print to them then im happy...

for another 25bux for the drive dont matter...
if your getting a year from it and a couple hundred
burns then it wont matter...

plus its only a few bux more for better disks that take 40mins or so on 2.4x speed....
id rather wait 15mins for ma disk than 40.. :| but thats just me..

[Gazcoigne]

QUOTE(mrthrust @ Jan 10 2007, 10:40 AM)

well after using the drive nearly a year and had good use from it & if all backups are working fine
and i can print to them then im happy...

for another 25bux for the drive dont matter...
if your getting a year from it and a few couple hundred
burns then it wont matter...

plus its only a few bux more for better disks that take 40mins or so on 2.4x spped....
id rather wait 15mins for ma disk than 40.. :| but thats just me..

btw im talking about your 360 laser not the burner. good luck trying to get a 360 drive with 25 'bux'!

plus my verbatim discs burn at 8X even though they are only 2.4 and are printable also, with a higher quality printing surface than those discs.

i agree with you about the burning speed, but my HD can burn anything at 8X without even breaking a sweat so whats the point. if your setup is giving you dde i suggest you update your system as it sounds like your system cant hack modern speeds.

[nu1mlock]

QUOTE(stowelly @ Jan 10 2007, 12:00 PM)

my systems pretty much best of the best at the moment, i just prefer burning at 1X when spending £2 on a disk i dont like taking chances, for the sake of a few mins extra i can deal with that

Right.

If you're so afraid of not breaking any discs, and you've got the "best of the best at the moment", then why burn them at 1x? If you've got that bad-ass system you're talking about, you could easily burn them at 8x. You could also burn them at 4x or even 2.4x. It's not like 2.4x is gonna make your harddrive shutdown because of the "high pressure".

Come on. You could easily burn the backups at 8x on an (example) 3500+ with 512MB memory. And since you've got the mega-system you probably have a better system than mine. I burn my backups just fine at 8x with my 4600+ X2 with 2GB of memory, so why wouldn't you?

I've NEVER burned ANY coasters EVER, and I'm ALWAYS using Verbatim MKM-001 and have ALWAYS burned them at 8x. Every backup still workes with any 360-drive, both Samsung and Hitachis.

So lay off with the "omg 8x destroys your computer and your discs" and "omg 2 bucks a disc is so much money so I have to wait like 2 hours to complete the burn" and "I've got a bad-ass system but I'm afraid to burn at higher speeds than 1x since it really can destroy everything".

[Gazcoigne]

here here

agreed totally.

[efxonly1]

I burn everything at 8x using verbatim dvd+r DL 2.4x.  I use the pioneer 111D crossflashed to 111L with firmware 1.29.  Never had any problems.

[Commex]

I burn at 2.4x just to be safe, and I dont need my OMG BACKUPS in like OMG 20 minutes or the world will blow up. I have the originals to play in the meantime

Just spend the extra 20 minutes in my opinion.

[nu1mlock]

QUOTE(Commex @ Jan 10 2007, 02:56 PM)

I burn at 2.4x just to be safe

And I burn my backups at 8x just to be safe, since there is absolutely no need to burn at slower speeds. You can of course do whatever you want, but burning at 2.4x is just plain stupid unless you have a really old system that can't do it any faster.

You do know that the chance of getting a backup burned correctly increases with higher speeds, right? Haven't you read the threads where people can't get backups running when they've burned them at 2.4x? The very same people had to set the speed to 4x to get them working.

But as I said, you can of course burn at 1/2.4x if you want.

[slimgrip]

I have a Pioneer 111D burner with FW1.29

In order to burn most 8x media at 8x you need to edit your firmware with MCSE as i had to do with mine to burn Aone 8x discs at 8x

As Gazcoigne says Verb 2.4x dvds burn at 8x & are far the best available, i only use the Aone discs when i cant get verbs

[Gazcoigne]

exactly slim, you have to add compatibility of that brand to the fw yourself, as the brand is so crap pioneer dont even recognise it or support it.

verbs are the best bet.

[D1PHAM]

I just bought a Pioneer 111D and I'm using the 1.23 firmware, should I update to 1.29?  What are the benefits?  Someone mentioned they flashed and updated to 111L, what did that do?

[smiffy1989]

nice little flame war this thread has turned into....

anyways back on topic, are you using an 80 wire eide cable? i think this is needed to get the fastest speeds out of the drive.

just a thought.

good luck.

[Methadon]

QUOTE(Gazcoigne @ Jan 10 2007, 11:45 AM)

btw im talking about your 360 laser not the burner. good luck trying to get a 360 drive with 25 'bux'!

plus my verbatim discs burn at 8X even though they are only 2.4 and are printable also, with a higher quality printing surface than those discs.

i agree with you about the burning speed, but my HD can burn anything at 8X without even breaking a sweat so whats the point. if your setup is giving you dde i suggest you update your system as it sounds like your system cant hack modern speeds.

 Actually, if it's burning out the laser that's the issue, the fix is *less* than $25. New lasers are selling for under $20 now.