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you need to be using mktflash r /sata /m orig.bin.... Right now you aren't using /m which will make only a partial backup. you NEED the /m

Also, I JUST made a post about this. If you are getting to reading....00% OF THE XBOX DRIVE the problem is likely your PC or at least the mobo, you can try putting the via card in a different PCI slot, short of that working you will have to try another (older worked great for me) PC.

If you are not reading the xbox drive then your mtkflash is probably not set up to look for the via controller. In fact if you are seeing the DVD Drive hooked up to your PC's IDE then you are most likely using a MTKFLASH set up for your PC and not the via card.

You can try downloading mtkflash_via or whatever its called. Don't even begin to ask me for a link, if you can't find it you have no business flashing a drive. Or make sure when you go into XBM that you are selecting and finding the Port and IO of the VIA chipset (will require you to install the drivers in windows)

[Modify_inc]

QUOTE(Modify_inc @ Dec 31 2006, 03:07 AM)

Thanks for the indepth reply and I finally figured out what my problem was after you mention that it looks like it's not looking for my via chipset.  I had used XBC on another pc that had a different via chipset.  After I redid it on this PC with this via chipset, it found it.

Anyway I was able to read the drive, went into windows, copied my good keys over (File was 256kb) to the xtrem15c.bin.  I rebooted and flashed the drive and all 4 banks were successful.  I turned off everything, hooked 360 to TV, put in my working verbatim backup (confirmed working on two other 360's) and I get open tray. I then turn it off, put in a orginal game, and the same thing.  Whats the deal, this is a brand new Xbox 360, just picked it up today, comes with Burnout Revenge.  I was suprised it was a Samsung MS28 drive and not a Hiatchi 78.

Whats the chances of my drive not even playing orginals.  I should have tested it before I opened it, but I didn't.  I know I could always flash it back, but orginals not playing, I'm worried about that.

Mike

 Damn, I feel like a idiot, I forgot to plug the Sata cable back to the 360 drive.  Anyways, it' boots fine now.

Quick question, I have my backup of Fear, and it is asking if I won't to do the update to play this game.  Is it safe to do the update?  I don't won't to get a error 66 or whatever poeple use to get.  When you flash using the xtreme 5.1 firmware does it keep your original firmware number?

Mike

[vinomarky]

As long as you left the spoofing to MS28, then you should be able to do the update without getting the E66 error

No one here though will guarantee that MS wont at some point do something nasty to users who go on Live with hacked firmware - user beware.

[vinomarky]

QUOTE(Modify_inc @ Dec 31 2006, 08:14 AM)

I didn't do the spoofing, I only choose the xtrem51c.bin and then added my new keys to it.  What does the  xtrem.bin default the spoof number to?  ....  I'm sure I'm making it more complicated than it is.

Also how can you tell what samsung drive you have if the top has been removed that has the rom version on it.  The chip in my buddies drive says MT1359SE 0531-AUBL GZB23011.  The printed date on the laser assembly is Sept 04, 2005.  He had a custom clear case installed which doesn't require the drive lid.  Of course he can't find the lid, and that was a awhile back.  I know it's not a MS28, since it didn't require the 10 sec delay to flash.  Anyways, after flashing it with the xtrem51c, I get open tray on my working backups, and I get unrecongized disc using orginals.  It grinds for awhile with the original, and only spins for a second or two with my backups, then just stops.  Not sure what's causing all that.  Is there a certain version this samsung could be that doesn't work well with Xtreme 5.1?  It played originals fine before.
Mike

Hi Mike,

The kernel on which the 4 and 5 series firmwares is built is a MS28, so you should be OK. In future though I recommend using the "Make Xtreme firmware.cmd" file, it reduces chances of error and walks you through the selection of firmware type and spoofing - give it a try just to test. Just put your orig.bin in the same directory as the cmd file, double click on the cmd file and follow the prompts - sweet.

As for your buddies drive... If the manufacture date is back in 2005, then I hazard a guess that it will be a MS25. For flashing purposes it really does not matter what it used to be, only what firmware you currently have on it (a MS25 will behave like a MS28 with v4 or v5 firmware on it, but like a MS25 with v3 firmware on it). In order though to prevent E66 errors when you upgrade to 4/5 then you do need to know what the original firmware was and spoof accordingly.

The errors he is seeing are not normal. My suggestions would be to;
1. Flash back to his original firmware (was it stock or hacked?)
2. Test to ensure things work again
3. If working again, try reflashing to 5.1 using above method and spoofing a MS25
4. If not working again, you have some other hardware problem, probably triggered by the rigors of taking the unit apart.

Note: Now that you have flashed to Xtreme 5.x, then in order to reflash to the original firmware you will need to either burn and use an Enable 0800 disk to put the drive in a mode for flashing like the MS25's, or use the bad-flash technique needed for MS28's

Good luck!

[Modify_inc]

I reflashed it back to the original fw and it's still doing the same thing.  I have a multimeter how can I test the POT?  Somtimes it just gives the error message at the bottom of the screen where it says open tray and other related text and sometimes it goes black for a sec or two then shows the same error via that slide out window and ask me to hit ok.  

If anybody has any suggestions just let me know, I will try them.  I would hate to know I have to buy another drive.  Can anybody recommend a website to purchase one if it comes to that?

Mike

[Modify_inc]

I just checked my POTS and the on on the left (closest to the white connector) selecting 20k on my MM, says 2.61 and the right says 4.20.  Now I have no idea if thats good and if I need to adjust, and if so which one, since there are 2 of them instead of one.

[vinomarky]

Can't tell you what the pots hsould be set at, although I seem to remember that there are a few laser tweaking tutorials out there - do some searching

If you flashed back to original, and it still wont work, then I agree that somthing physically is wrong with the drive. Your laser tweaking idea may be the fix... fingers crossed

You can get replacements from ebay, or a couple of web stores around

P.S. - one other thing to check when you are flashing  you did use the internal SATA port on the card yes? The external one does not seem to work for many people.

[Modify_inc]

QUOTE(vinomarky @ Dec 31 2006, 05:48 PM)

Can't tell you what the pots hsould be set at, although I seem to remember that there are a few laser tweaking tutorials out there - do some searching

If you flashed back to original, and it still wont work, then I agree that somthing physically is wrong with the drive. Your laser tweaking idea may be the fix... fingers crossed

You can get replacements from ebay, or a couple of web stores around

P.S. - one other thing to check when you are flashing  you did use the internal SATA port on the card yes? The external one does not seem to work for many people.

I'm not sure what you mean by the internal one and the external one.  I only have a internal sata card, and I am using the furthest out port closet to the center of the MB.  It worked with my samsung MS28 drive and supposely this one to, other than it's giving me unrecongizable disc with original game and open tray with working backup.

[vinomarky]

QUOTE(Modify_inc @ Dec 31 2006, 07:55 PM)

I'm not sure what you mean by the internal one and the external one.  I only have a internal sata card, and I am using the furthest out port closet to the center of the MB.  It worked with my samsung MS28 drive and supposely this one to, other than it's giving me unrecongizable disc with original game and open tray with working backup.

On some of these 6421 PCI cards there are sata port connections that face outside the case, as well as some inside the computer case. You need to use the ones inside the case - sounds like you already are

[Modify_inc]

QUOTE(TristanBlade @ Dec 31 2006, 06:56 PM)

:   I'm sorry, but I had a good laugh at this.  I'll have to add this to my list of diagnostic questions.

The FEAR game is asking for an update for the game not for the dashboard.  However, you should be able to update to the latest dashboard no problem as mentioned by others here.

As for your friend's 360 it seems to me that you botched up the dvd key and mixed up the originals (assuming you hooked up the sata cable - I'm sorry cheap shot, I know).  Extract the firmware that's on it now and extract the firmware on yours and compare - I have a bad feeling it will be the same and if it is and you don't have a true backup of his firmware - you've made a nice paperweight out of his 360.

I've already double checked my other drive just to make sure and they don't match, so thats good.  If the keys were wrong for a married drive, what kind of error message would you usually get, I'm just curious?  I know I didn't get the orginals mixed up as I named his after his name, and I have applied the original back and it still gives me the same error.  I thought maybe the laser was dirty so I blew on it really hard, and now it says open tray for originals and backups.  It's like it don't even try to spin or even start to spin, just a quick half sec, maybe moves the disc 2 degress and then just stops.  I thought that from blowing on it, it may have fogged it up so I waited about 30 minutes, and still the same thing.

[TristanBlade]

QUOTE(Modify_inc @ Dec 31 2006, 02:02 PM)

I've already double checked my other drive just to make sure and they don't match, so thats good.  If the keys were wrong for a married drive, what kind of error message would you usually get, I'm just curious?  I know I didn't get the orginals mixed up as I named his after his name, and I have applied the original back and it still gives me the same error.  I thought maybe the laser was dirty so I blew on it really hard, and now it says open tray for originals and backups.  It's like it don't even try to spin or even start to spin, just a quick half sec, maybe moves the disc 2 degress and then just stops.  I thought that from blowing on it, it may have fogged it up so I waited about 30 minutes, and still the same thing.

I don't think you get an error message.  It will play a dvd though regardless of the key.  Try playing a movie on it.  If it plays the movie then it's probably not the laser or drive.

Actually, after thinking about it I think it may give some error like "put this in a xbox 360" or some other nonsense.  Maybe it isn't the key after all.

[Modify_inc]

QUOTE(TristanBlade @ Dec 31 2006, 08:38 PM)

I don't think you get an error message.  It will play a dvd though regardless of the key.  Try playing a movie on it.  If it plays the movie then it's probably not the laser or drive.

Actually, after thinking about it I think it may give some error like "put this in a xbox 360" or some other nonsense.  Maybe it isn't the key after all.

 That's funny that you mentioned that message because I have got that message twice loadingt that orignal scratched up'd game.  It says Insert this game into a Xbox 360" which I thought was odd since duh, thats what I did.  I ejected it, put it back in, and it loaded right up both times it did that.

[dvandriesen]

well i have been following your post mod and noticed that you say you just got a new xbox the same one i have  thats very random that the orignal of burnout revenge doesnt work what are the chances you defiantly should call m$ up and give them hell hahaha.  But yeah did you mod the new xbox you just got i havent gotten around to modding mine yet still waiting on my vt6421a card so hope mine works. good luck and as for the put the game in 360 console i have a brandnew game tony hawk that gives me that error haha so weird y M$ putting out games that are giving such a weird errror huh

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QUOTE(dvandriesen @ Dec 31 2006, 09:25 PM)

well i have been following your post mod and noticed that you say you just got a new xbox the same one i have  thats very random that the orignal of burnout revenge doesnt work what are the chances you defiantly should call m$ up and give them hell hahaha.  But yeah did you mod the new xbox you just got i havent gotten around to modding mine yet still waiting on my vt6421a card so hope mine works. good luck and as for the put the game in 360 console i have a brandnew game tony hawk that gives me that error haha so weird y M$ putting out games that are giving such a weird errror huh

Yes, I have modded it already, it was a Samsung MS28 and it appears to work flawlessly other than Burnt Out.  

This other drive is driving me crazy, it will not load my working backup.  I keep getting the Tray open message.  I have tried the rubberband with many different sizes with no luck.  I tried like someone said, to insert a original, then eject it, close it back up with nothing in it, and wait for the tray open message, then eject and put your backup in, and still the same thing.

I wish I knew excatly how to tweak the POT.  I was able to check it, I just don't know where to go from there.  Someone mentioned something about a link to adjusting the POT, I just havn't got around to it, guess I will check it out now.

[Modify_inc]

I finally was able to read up on tweaking the POT and there isn't much to it.  There are 2 POT's because one is for the CD, and the other is for the DVD.  My buddies POT for the DVD is 4.20 which falls in the 3.2 to 4.2 range.  It was mentioned to lower it 100ohms at a time and that most sweet spots were around 3.0k to 3.4k, which I got his to 3.16, and guess what?  I still get open tray with my working backups in the drive.  I tested the original scratched up disc, and it stills loads, so that’s good.

I'm about to give up on this drive, it will not play a backup for anything.  I'm using Verbatim DL 2.4 disc, burnt with the Pioneer 111D, using the rubber band mod and now even tweaked the damn POT.  What else does this goofy drive want from me?  Should I try a older version of Xtreme, other than this 5.1c?  This is only the 2nd Samsung I have done, my new Xbox was the first.  I have many xtreme files that I have downloaded, so if somebody wants to recommend one, I will check my folders and see if I have it, and will give it a try.  I assume they apply in basically the same manner.

Thanks for all your help thus far,
Mike