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« Reply #330 on: December 20, 2006, 10:56:00 PM »

Hey Everyone!

                     I've got a question...I have an older model 360, sammy ms25 with 3.3 FW flashed. I'm interested in flashing the machine with the latest 5.0 but I don't know which one I'm supposed to use? Do I use the Xtreme firmware 5.0A or the 5.0B? Any help would be great!

Thanx,
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« Reply #331 on: December 20, 2006, 11:01:00 PM »

QUOTE(Iriez @ Dec 20 2006, 09:47 PM) View Post

1: Tools are fine. Appears to be user error, since i have many confirmed reports of success, aswell as personal success.

2: media is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS a issue. What world do you live on? If you burn a fucked game, to crappy media or good media, its not gonna boot either way. Its not the media, its the user.

3: The D162 / kreon works fine. Unless you seem to sugess that it breaks the hash on the files while in read-only operation? lol.


Care to post a step by step that you used personally from extracting the ISO using your D162 all the way to playing the backup? I'm all for the pursue of limiting 'User' error ofcourse.. As long as theres some help along the way...  wink.gif
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« Reply #332 on: December 20, 2006, 11:17:00 PM »

QUOTE(Nocturnal768 @ Dec 20 2006, 10:03 PM) View Post

Hey Everyone!

                     I've got a question...I have an older model 360, sammy ms25 with 3.3 FW flashed. I'm interested in flashing the machine with the latest 5.0 but I don't know which one I'm supposed to use? Do I use the Xtreme firmware 5.0A or the 5.0B? Any help would be great!

Thanx,
Nocturnal768

The only difference is... (Quoted from xtreme 5.0 NFO)
For Xtreme 5.0A all backup Read Speed is same as original game disks 12x. Originals unaffected and no speed switch
For Xtreme 5.0B all backup Read Speed is quite/slow. Originals unaffected and no speed switch

I suggest 5.0B if you are concerned with noise level. The noise is dramatically lower than the 5.0A fast speed.
If you are concerned about video skipping (more common with slow speed), disk read error (not so common), or load times... go with 5.0A
Personally, I hate the amount of noise the drive gives off at full speed.
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« Reply #333 on: December 21, 2006, 12:16:00 AM »

Looks like the third shift is in.

I just received an 763Mb Iso, from someone who made a working image, but I still get the same error when I burnt it to small DVD-R (RiDATA 1.4GB). I will try it with the +RW & -RW media I have to see if I get anywhere. My theory remains the same, that the auto booksetting might be malfuncting. I do wonder why we get DDEs on good discs, perhaps its expecting to find data in a specific place.

*Edit: I used ImgBurn simply cause I have heard of problems with Nero. Iriez what did you use?
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« Reply #334 on: December 21, 2006, 12:57:00 AM »

QUOTE(firestorm2yk @ Dec 21 2006, 12:26 AM) View Post

I dont think it's a media issue, if that was the case then Halo would DDE in different places, but instead it DDE's in exactly the same place for everybody, which is the start of the "Truth and Reconcilliation" level.

Iv'e tried different media and the results are the same. Halo boots just fine, but so far i cant see anyone who can actully load the third stage of Halo. My original xbox loads the backup just fine.

Iriez, if you dont mind, could you try loading the third stage of Original Halo from a single layer backup and tell us what happens?


I will give it a shot tomorrow. Another game that refuses to boot is mortal kombat armaggedon, as it freezes on initial loading screen.

Also, I found that a certian copy of halo2 original has a very wierd mixed region default.xbe that refuses to load. A friend of mine had gotten it from a rental store, and its supposedly ntsc. However, it refuses to boot...I have a feeling it is a xbox360 emulator issues, not xtreme based.

I use imgburn btw.
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« Reply #335 on: December 21, 2006, 01:09:00 AM »

I dont have a samsung drive so I cant try this.. But did anyone built/burned any .iso's with the original layout table. GDFimage adds file to the iso by their alphabetical order. I believe there is a tutorial in the xbox1 backup forum on how to make iso with layout tables of files from original dvd's. There is also a site that had many layout tables.
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« Reply #336 on: December 21, 2006, 01:31:00 AM »

HI, im tested 20 games and same error not run or problem in disc in midle of game, ok im test de same backups in my xbox 1 an works perfect.

Im test all my movies recorded in dvd-r in xtreme 5.0 and not work but returning to xtreme 4.2 and all movies works again, this firmware needs fix some bugs for a perfect firm wink.gif
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« Reply #337 on: December 21, 2006, 01:46:00 AM »

QUOTE(kingroach @ Dec 21 2006, 09:16 AM) View Post

I dont have a samsung drive so I cant try this.. But did anyone built/burned any .iso's with the original layout table. GDFimage adds file to the iso by their alphabetical order. I believe there is a tutorial in the xbox1 backup forum on how to make iso with layout tables of files from original dvd's. There is also a site that had many layout tables.

XDVDFSTools does this. i am going to try it in a few minutes and see if the orginal halo will work correctly on truth and reconciliation. If you don't mind looking for that site with the layout tables please post a link. i looked but without luck. thanks edit: nevermind found it here http://layouts.xbox-scene.com/

I am also going to attempt to pad the iso with XDVDFSTools. it has a option to pad the data to the end of the disc(-pad) i will report back if it works. right now i am testing on doom3 and it freezes on the activision video.

I got my DVD+Rs working but they absolutely have to be bitsetting DVD-ROM. i couldn't get my burner to bitsett DVD+RW correctly unfortunately
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« Reply #338 on: December 21, 2006, 02:12:00 AM »

IRIEZ,

why did you wait until the 24 page of this thread to tell us that version 5.1 is privately being tested?  

if people knew that, they would have wisely NOT wasted their time updating and re-opening their fagile XBOX360 shells.  I of course did NOT take this update--and will NOT.

This means v5.0a/b is already obsolete...

The comments from C4eva were very clear on this point..he stated a new update would be released shortly..in others don't waste your time using v5.0a/b.

In this game the EARLY BIRD does not get the worm...he often gets crushed..patince is the order of the day when new firmware is released...people sould NOT rush out and use it until its been in the stream for a few months and survived a few rounds of XBL updates.

I wonder what potential damage that Blaster 360 is going to do if people improperly use it..

I can already see the million threads on how its bricked their HDD (corrupted its partion etc)  or DVD flash memory..the yhave stated publically it was loaded with all sorts of bugs..I read Team Execture reports and it does not leave me with a comfortable feeling...i suspect it will take them few generations before they work out ALL the bugs..just like the PS2 AND xbox360...EARLY BIRD GENERATIONS ARE ALWAYS BUGGY--I would advise being careful using it until its been out a few months at least..don't be Guinee pig for new hardware.

I will offer a safer and cheaper solution below to that blaster360...TEXTBOOK tutorial.


BTW,

here is a good lesson and comparison for what we are going thru with these new firmware updates:

testers of Dishwork satellite TV AUTOROLL scripts recently understand EXACTLY what I am saying...there might be a few of you guys who test Dish...and I'm sure you have been thru thru ALL the wars with dynamic code card updates and card loop attacks.


to me playing around with firmware is similar to testing Dish sat TV cards...and what I'm surprised most about is how little has been developed in flashing the onboard flash memory TSOPs via  JTAG trapping programs--i.e the BIOS..that is probbaly an area that needs quick attention before it is too late...somewhere in calander year 2007 MS could brick these consoles easily in 2 seconds flat.

but I don't want to digress too much from the topic at hand...just wanted to offer a comparison that is topical.

I repeat again, I suggest everyone wait until this firmware is tested for at least several more weeks then and the ripping tools get updated and we monitor closely how the game patches from XBL affect it....

its the updates that we need to worry about...there have been many e66 and e79 reports that can't be fully identified as to the real cause.

Does Error 66 ring a bell?

That should have been warning shot across the bow...only now are there easy tools to fix it...another one was released tonight.  

my suggestion is wait , be patient and allow ONLY a small % of testers to play with it....I suggest to C4Ev he be  more careful releasing these things for public consumption especially if he anticipates more immediate upates are right around the corner...this is a RADICAL update not just a minor one.

its wonderful his contribution,

but caution is advised...even the best coders with perfect track records get nailed hard..just ask Penga the guru of Dishnetwork hacking scripts; make a long story short Dishnetwork found a major exploitbale  hole in one of his popular scripts 2 weeks ago and killed a very very very large % (tens of thousand of hacked sat TV cards)..it was called "BLACK TUESDAY" and it marks as the largest and major ECM eventin history against what was considered the safests autoroll script on the market.

stay with v4.2b for now, its tested to work with current XBL updates..so if you dont update they can't easily kill you..at least until they force a stream update...which BTW they can easily...but we can se that comming.

we need to start logging these XBL streamd updates...is anyone doing that?

incidently,

i don't agree at all wit what IRIEZ, says no one in this thread is having any success ripping and burning XBOX1 backups (which is what this update is all about in the first place)...despite his claims that he spoke to (10) ten friends who have no problems...I don't see them adding their suggestions; therefore  its unconfirmed and hollow should NOT be taken as truth.

all of what I siad was true..we agree to disagree.

until we can do at least 10 XBOX1 games start to finish that run perfectly its is NOT a working solution..and we have what apears a ways to still go...both in firmware and tools

all I see is bold statements that it works, but it DOES NOT--certainly with NOT enough consitancy to justify its implementation.

after 27 pages of asking for advice on how to do it, I think that alone is proof enough.

this is a cmobination of problems: firmware is still in beta testing and has bugs, ripping tools need updating and different hardware DVD drvives (MS25 vs. MS28) are reporting different results when backups are burned with exact same procedures...so its a combination of problems.

this is NOT a flash and go update.

also somones asked how do they reflash without opening up the XBOX360 each time ( I mentioned this above)..well I will share with you the TEXTBOOK procedure with my additional modifications:

I do it excatly as he sugegsted, but I use a Dremel tool to trim the inner casing metallic shell (the area between the memory card sockets) to allow the female SATA cable to pass thur the casing shell without it being pinched or the plastic bezel on the outside being trimmed..just pass it thru the front of one of th memory card slots...very easy to do....and a DREMEL tool is cheaper than that $70--Blaster360, whch still is in beta testing and hasalot bigs in it.

buy this for $5 with free shipping with PAYPAL (coupon: PAYPALFREE) and install it:

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16812206003

pics:

http://www.360mods.n...ls/album=3.html

if you do this mod you wont have to spend $70 on that expensive blaster 360 which is uneccesary..this is how to do it.


if you feel my attidude is wrong or arrogant, then good, I got my point across and it might give someone pause to wait and be more cautious until more is known about this firmware release and beta testing is finished.

you guys are playing Russian Roulette with these firmware updates.

walk blindly into an update and you'll brick your console one day..I have seen this happen many times over the years..when new toys are released...and the MODs have to be even more cautious as well.

i don't see enough caution being used here.
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« Reply #339 on: December 21, 2006, 02:41:00 AM »

QUOTE(BlueCop @ Dec 21 2006, 03:53 AM) View Post

XDVDFSTools does this. i am going to try it in a few minutes and see if the orginal halo will work correctly on truth and reconciliation. If you don't mind looking for that site with the layout tables please post a link. i looked but without luck. thanks edit: nevermind found it here http://layouts.xbox-scene.com/

I am also going to attempt to pad the iso with XDVDFSTools. it has a option to pad the data to the end of the disc(-pad) i will report back if it works. right now i am testing on doom3 and it freezes on the activision video.

I got my DVD+Rs working but they absolutely have to be bitsetting DVD-ROM. i couldn't get my burner to bitsett DVD+RW correctly unfortunately


Do not use XDVDFS tools. It is better to use moogui with the layout files.
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« Reply #340 on: December 21, 2006, 03:03:00 AM »

QUOTE(sdeens @ Dec 21 2006, 04:19 AM) View Post

IRIEZ,

why did you wait until the 24 page of this thread to tell us that version 5.1 is privately being tested?  

if people knew that, they would have wisely NOT wasted their time updating and re-opening their fagile XBOX360 shells.  I of course did NOT take this update--and will NOT.

This means v5.0a/b is already obsolete...


...Do you lack some form of rationality and logical deduction that is akin to the average human being? What did you think, that 5.0 was going to be the end of time? That there was to be no more updates? Well, EXCUSE C4E for working damn hard and finding a FIX for most open tray errors.

Its people like you that make developers not want to develop. You have nothing but complaints and very LITTLE praise. Did you ever stop to realize that all of your posts are centered around yourself? You you you...wah this wah my xbox that. If people did not use this firmware, and report bugs, how on EARTH do you think its going to get better? Magical beans? This thread has NOTHING to do with your opinions, or how you feel. This is about c4e's firmware. Now, what information have YOU contributed to this thread? Because for someone who is so incredibly sure of himself, I have yet to see you post ONE SINGLE RELEVENT FACT that YOU yourself tested. You have quite a mouth, and little bark. If you want to participate in this thread any longer, then you need to do testing on YOUR OWN and post, otherwise i will simply delete any following posts due to irrelevence and misleading information of this thread.

As far as your statements about xb1 backups...

I've already stated how I have successfully made, and burned my backups. I guess in all your hard reading in this thread you missed my posts on it.

I do not own very many games on the emulated list, but i DID thoroughly play over the hedge on a TEON SL, burned at 8x for many levels with absolutly no problems. I have spoken to others who have successfully played xb1 backups with no issues. Do you not realize that people who do not have problems do not post? Or are you lost in your naive world where you think everyone that has this firmware posts in this thread?

QUOTE(sdeens @ Dec 21 2006, 04:19 AM) View Post

stay with v4.2b for now, its tested to work with current XBL updates..so if you dont update they can't easily kill you..at least until they force a stream update...which BTW they can easily...but we can se that comming.


Its very obvious that you have absolutly no grasp as to how these firmwares work in regards to the xbox live updates. You know nothing of the stealth process, what REALLY goes on beneath the surface. You must not grasp spoofing, or reporting, or any of the basic concepts, or otherwise you would not have just said that. Its very apparent, and I will again ask that you keep your ignorance to yourself, instead of trying to lead a crusade against xtreme v5. Further posts of misleading information will be deleted. I want FACTS not your presumptious attitude gained purely in negative retrospect.

QUOTE(sdeens @ Dec 21 2006, 04:19 AM) View Post

all of what I siad was true..we agree to disagree.


lol? You dont know your foot from your hand. Infact, all i see from you is regurgitation of what you *assume* are facts. Quite a claim for something thats is logically impossible. Way to go nostradomus.


PS - Someone want to throw me a save right before HALO crashes? Im going to test tomorrow, and it would save time to not play through the levels.
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« Reply #341 on: December 21, 2006, 04:02:00 AM »

Can anyone confirm if Xbox 1 games burnt to dual layer dvd's still work without DDE's?
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« Reply #342 on: December 21, 2006, 04:21:00 AM »

my number 1 request for any new version is for +RW support. i have had no success with them even with DVD-ROM bitsetting. this would enable us to save alot of discs.
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« Reply #343 on: December 21, 2006, 04:53:00 AM »

sdeens, you really are an unconscionable retard.

I, amongst others, have reported working SL Xbox 1 backups: Red Faction 2 and SW: Battlefront and others which have almost worked or work partially - do you not understand the principle of incremental progress? I would suggest you try Darwin's 'Origin of the Species' but since it makes frequent use of words of more than one syllable and you clearly spend all your free time hacking your sat-card for free dog porn it's probably not for you.

These firmwares are excellent, and on the basis that there have been few if any instances of 5.0 damaging anyone's box what's the harm in trying it and reporting results? That's how they get better. The fact that there is an unreleased 5.0c and 5.1x is a good thing, not a bad thing. At the risk of repeating Iriez's sentiments, has it not occurred to you than whenever 5.1 is released there will probably, the next day, be an unreleased 5.2 or even 6.0 and for that not to be the case would mean c4eva had stopped working. This would definitely be a bad thing.

Bluecop: I've had exactly the same issue with Doom 3 and would be interested to hear if you get any further with it.
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« Reply #344 on: December 21, 2006, 05:21:00 AM »

You can add me to the list of people who have succesfully gotten xbox1 backups to work.

My Process: FTP'ed the files over from my Xbox1, ran XBEFix, re-created the ISO with GDFImage (not GNU GDFImage) and re-wrote with CloneCD at slow speed onto Verbatim DVD-R (no booktype set obviously since DVD-R's don't support book-type - DUH! ;-) MS28 Samsung.

Successfully played Half Life 2 for about an hour - no hassles (although the frame-rate is not so great in places but I don't think it was that hot on Xbox1 anyway ;-)

Wrote Reservoir Dogs too in the exact same way because I had the image already lying on my drive (I knew it wasn't in the compatibility update - just wanted to see how far it got). It got all the way to the point where it told me the dash update didn't support the game so at least it "booted".

So for those of you (you know who you are) who claim that backups don't work on anybody's machines - STFU - you don't speak for everyone.

I smile everytime some noob has the attitude "it doesn't work for me so therefore it doesn't work for anyone". I will try with more games later.

Any other games freezing for anyone? Someone has borrowed my Halo 2 so I can't test it but I am keen to try a different game that other people are having hassles with just to see if it freezes at the exact same point.

On a side note... Just imagine if nobody ever used software until it was multiple versions along. Who the fuck would test it? It would always just sit on version 1. If you don't want to update your firmware, then that's your business but I'm not sure why you want to discourage anyone else from doing it. It keeps the scene alive. If everyone was like that asshole on this forum "sdeens" then the scene wouldn't be where it was today. If I brick a few consoles testing firmware, then so be it. It's a bit like drug-testing - you have to kill a few people sometimes to find a cure for the millions ;-)
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