Topic: Team Underdog announced NME-360 v1.2 DVD Firmware PatchMod (Read 258 times)

RiPpN-N-TrIppN · « **Reply #30 on:** November 23, 2006, 03:18:00 PM »

i don't no why ppl bitch about these chips soo much
there a good alternative to flashing the drive and in some ways there alot easier
i bet if Xecuter where the ppl making these chips there would be nothing but praise
dont get me wrong i wont be buying one of these any time soon but for alot of ppl
this is the way to go
Rip

ModdingManiac · « **Reply #31 on:** November 23, 2006, 03:24:00 PM »

QUOTE(syntaxerror329 @ Nov 23 2006, 11:02 AM)

Wow so many negatives on here. When i read this I only thought of positive things.

I though wow a solution for those 0079 drives that does not require tsop removal.
I though how much simpler it would be to solder 4-5 wires and be done. No messing around with trying to detect your drive with sata. MS28 drives are such a pain for some people.

I did think about upgrades and with it not being easy to upgrade (or impossible) that would be the largest drawback to me.

So if i had a 0079 i would be willing to spend the cash on this chip.

Agree...I do both mods and getting tire of people complaining about chips, for a lot of people its easier to solder then have to deal with the hedache of dealing with making your computer compatible to flash a drive...I hope the new hitachi doesn't get craked via software and then u need a chip, see how many people complain then.

KaISeR SoZEi · « **Reply #32 on:** November 23, 2006, 05:42:00 PM »

two problems :

1) NME special Security sector format -> it's the MAJOR flaw in their product

2) no chip upgrade -> critical lake of feature can happen VERY quickly after installation

IntestineMan · « **Reply #33 on:** November 23, 2006, 07:35:00 PM »

And also no media stealthing of DMI and PFI. The current Hitachi-LGA G-OPA based firmwares don't currently do this either, but at least there is hope that an update will allow one to reflash - not with NME.

RiPpN-N-TrIppN · « **Reply #34 on:** November 23, 2006, 08:09:00 PM »

QUOTE(KaISeR SoZEi @ Nov 24 2006, 01:13 AM)

two problems :

1) NME special Security sector format -> it's the MAJOR flaw in their product

2) no chip upgrade -> critical lake of feature can happen VERY quickly after installation

1) why is the SS a major flaw it takes less then 2 seconds to repatch a iso even for you little pirates with the program supplied it takes less then 2 seconds to repatch a iso

2) why does the chip have to be upgradeable as long as it works it works i no of ppl still using extreme 1 with no problems i myself am still using 3.3 and dont see a need to upgrade

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pryro99 · « **Reply #35 on:** November 23, 2006, 11:54:00 PM »

I just bought a v.1.1 4 days ago and can't find anyhelp or support. I've even email teamunderdog. NO REPLY"S. and i have a pineer 110d I bought that now i find out has issue's. My advise id go flash your drive. more support and less hassel

pcrat · « **Reply #36 on:** November 24, 2006, 06:48:00 AM »

i hear ya on the upgrading... no need if it still does the job, unless m$ comes outwith something that counter acts the chip/firmware of course, thats the only reason to upgrade... newer upgrades always arent the best.

krayzie · « **Reply #37 on:** November 24, 2006, 08:59:00 AM »

QUOTE(pcrat @ Nov 24 2006, 02:19 PM)

i hear ya on the upgrading... no need if it still does the job, unless m$ comes outwith something that counter acts the chip/firmware of course, thats the only reason to upgrade... newer upgrades always arent the best.

Guess you don't want the single layer support also?

ruciz · « **Reply #38 on:** November 24, 2006, 10:14:00 AM »

I doubt it, it just patches the lines, don't replace the firmware so if its bricked to start with, this won't repair it.

I am waiting for diagrams before making any conclusions.. I am assuming the hitachis use the same install diagram, and they are laced with epoxy, so I don't think this chip is gonna be worth it if you have to chip all that epoxy away.. good risk of ripping some traces.. Least with the 78's it IS possible to dump the drive key in case you need to get another PCB.

IMO these chips suck anyway, every new update requires a new chip at another $60..

Evil Ryu · « **Reply #39 on:** November 24, 2006, 12:09:00 PM »

QUOTE

IMO these chips suck anyway, every new update requires a new chip at another $60.

What exactly do you mean by 'every new update'? From what I've gathered, it's kind of like the original modchips for the PS2 - they will still boot pretty much every game (or all of them with some patches applied to the game), but just don't have any of the fancy features of the newer chips.

Even if M$ comes out with some sort of anti-piracy thing, I'm sure there will be some sort of patches created to allow a person to play these games even with older firmwares or out-dated modchips.

Toddster · « **Reply #40 on:** November 24, 2006, 01:49:00 PM »

QUOTE(ruciz @ Nov 24 2006, 05:45 PM)

ILeast with the 78's it IS possible to dump the drive key in case you need to get another PCB.

And how do you go about dumping this key on the 78's without an external flasher?

questionator · « **Reply #41 on:** November 24, 2006, 02:50:00 PM »

QUOTE(pryro99 @ Nov 24 2006, 07:25 AM)

I just bought a v.1.1 4 days ago and can't find anyhelp or support. I've even email teamunderdog. NO REPLY"S. and i have a pineer 110d I bought that now i find out has issue's. My advise id go flash your drive. more support and less hassel

I'm sorry to say but i think you should not have got that chip anyway, it sound's like your a noob and need someone to do it for u. If you want to save a dollar don't try to do it your self and complain it's not working for you. Same thing for flashing, get it done by a smart friend or something........

It's not ok Team underdog does not reply your email, but hey! if i would get 100+ noody emails a day i might select the more important ones to reply.... No i'm not saying it's ok....but still...

And for all you negative peeps out here, keep flashing your drives like you did before and please stop fucking complaining. this forum get's enough of it already please... what's the point? if you want to keep noobs from getting the chip because of problems then please explain the last update on samsung flashes. Like the man said before, most of them are paying someone to help them flash the drive. So updating will not always be that easy or cheap.... think about it.

well now my opinion:
I have both NME v1.0 and a Flashed 360, so my spoiled ass can't say a thing.
I love them both and they work both, you just have to know how.

Follow the rules and save yourself a headage!!

KaISeR SoZEi · « **Reply #42 on:** November 24, 2006, 06:11:00 PM »

QUOTE(RiPpN-N-TrIppN @ Nov 24 2006, 03:40 AM)

1) why is the SS a major flaw it takes less then 2 seconds to repatch a iso even for you little pirates with the program supplied it takes less then 2 seconds to repatch a iso

2) why does the chip have to be upgradeable as long as it works it works i no of ppl still using extreme 1 with no problems i myself am still using 3.3 and dont see a need to upgrade

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1) and if all my backup are already wrote on expenssive DVD DL ? I prefer to have to solder 3 ou 4 more wires than make backup with fucked strange incompatible custom SS

2) If m$ find a way to block hacked firmware but a hacker find a way to bypass m$ technic with a new firmware -> NO UPDATE = NME USELESS

ydgmms · « **Reply #43 on:** November 24, 2006, 06:19:00 PM »

QUOTE(krayzie @ Nov 24 2006, 04:30 PM)

Guess you don't want the single layer support also?

For all of 2 games? I read theres only a handful of games that can be stripped down enough to fit on a single layer. People that want single layer support are just cheap. DL are expensive, but deal with it.

And why aren't people bitching about that, btw. I've read af ew people complain that NME needs the SS patched.... but the same things gonna need to happen for single layer support...

Oh well.. to each their own. I got a 1.1 nme, and no problems.... so oh well.

foundmy · « **Reply #44 on:** November 25, 2006, 01:12:00 AM »

QUOTE(fes_786 @ Nov 23 2006, 12:23 PM)

the hitachi 78k has rolling code in the eeprom so how does the underdog chip get round this?
it wont have on the fly patching because each 78k drive's key is located at different byte address's so how do they get round it?

lol i reckon its market hype

but i'll wait and see if its true

This is not like a globe-360, where it read the your dvd key, and uses it in its own HB FW hack calls.

NME-360 v1.2 is not a firmware replacement, it doesn't write to the flash IC at all. so noithng is touched.
it looks at datalines and calls and gives replies automatically.

so its not a Firmware Hack at all.

so if MS ever decides to read an address location from the firmware IC, with the nme-360 the firmware is always 100% original, untouched, unlike other solutions.

anything that starts to cut traces start to replace the firmware IC, like globe-360 and others,
so if you try to do a read you are actually reading their IC on their product and not your firmware IC.
NME-360 doesn't' do that. Its only 5-6 wires so you are always READING the MAIN DVD Firmware IC.

but again its personal choice, i have fixed like 55 dvd drives because of issues of firmware hacking.

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