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[Textbook]

How long are you waiting before powering on the 360?  Some people have to wait 10 , 11, 15 seconds or more.  I'm lucky, mine will work if I power it on any time after selecting the card.  I've used 1 second all the way up to 15 seconds.  It's always worked for me, but maybe I just have that magic touch.

[Textbook]

QUOTE(mxwizard @ Nov 10 2006, 06:29 PM)

On a side note textbook just how important when entering the samread/samhack command is it too use your serial number in a block of 7 and then a block of 5 samread xxxxxxx yyyyy? I was actually successful with 2 banks of 6 lol...... samread xxxxxx yyyyyy although I obviously used the correct way I did actually try the 2 banks of 6 and everything still worked a treat? Just interested that was all lol

The values entered after the SAMREAD or SAMHACK command are for reference/organization only.  They are actually unimportant to the actual flashing.  What happens is if you use for example:  SAMREAD 1234567 12345, then your firmware files are stored in /BACKUPS/12345/1234567/.

That's it, it just names the folders whatever the serial number you entered.  So, if you flash more than one drive from the same USB stick, then you're like "crap, which one is my firmware?"  It will obviously be the one with your serial number.

If you're lazy or don't want to use your serial number, you can use pretty much anything.

SAMREAD XBOX SCENE would store your firmware files in /BACKUPS/SCENE/XBOX/ for example.

Still recommended to use your serial number though, just cleaner.

[odgaf]

chelsea heres some pointers

once you plug the mtk based pc dvd rom or cd drive into the ide port of the 6421a card you should have 4 channel options not 3 this is the root of your problem id guess its either your sata port your using or mtkflash not configured properly or as the previous post suggested the timing although for me timing was never an issue

on the 6142a card you MUST use the internal rear sata port pointing at the hardrives and it should be option 3 in the channel selection menu it has only worked this way for me on 3 different pc and remember you should have 4 options and you select option/channel 3

make sure you do have a mtk based pc dvd/cd rom drive connected to your pc you can verify this by typing mtkflash #c once you have confirmed this simply plug that drive into the ide port of the sata card if you dont have a mtk based pc drive plugged into the ide port of the sata card you wont get 4 channel options and it simply wont work

turn on both pc and xbox together
at dos prompt type mtkflash r /m /sata orig.bin you should get 4 channel options if you dont get 4 channels it wont work you need to have 4 channels maybe the timing is important on your machine i dont know mess around with them

once you get 4 options in the channel selection menu turn off xbox and press channel 3 [option 3] and count to ten the xbox appears to hang,after 10 turn xbox on it will start writing to disk if you have connected everything as ive stated it Will be option 3 in the 4 channel selection screen and it will start writing


if you follow these directions exactly and you still dont have any sucess mess around with timing
some say load to dos without turning on xbox typing in mtkflash r /m /sata orig.bin then turning on xbox
others say dont plug xbox sata drive in till dos has loaded and you have typed mtkflash r /m /sata orig.bin then u turn xbox on and exactly 1 second later [or more play around with it] press return for the channel menu

cant help you any more than this you are nearly there u just need the extra port on the channel selection screen id probably say your using the wrong sata port which would give u less channels than you need or you dont have the mtk based pc drive plugged into the sata ide port which would also not give you enough channels both these issues are very very important for this card

then again it could be timing  follow my instructions exactly and mess around with timing good luck

[Smart]

It is possible to connect a mtk based drive to the motherboard instead of the sata card whilst reading and flashing.
I didnt have a full 40 pin ide cable so i left a nec and pioneer on ide1.
I was given 3 options: 1 ide1
                                 2 ide1
                                 3 via6421a

I also left the sata connected to the 360 whilst booting,but only turned the 360 just before hitting the mtk command.
Also used edited mtkflash.

[chelseaboy36]

QUOTE(odgaf @ Nov 11 2006, 12:06 AM)

make sure you do have a mtk based pc dvd/cd rom drive connected to your pc you can verify this by typing mtkflash #c once you have confirmed this simply plug that drive into the ide port of the sata card if you dont have a mtk based pc drive plugged into the ide port of the sata card you wont get 4 channel options and it simply wont work

Thanks for replying. It is absolutely necessary that I plug in a MTk based drive? My VT6421a is already seen as channel 3. If I do need one can you give me some examples of drives with these chips? I have tried turning on 1 sec to about a minute! Sometimes it does actually start to read but stops at 1%. Plaese reply soon! Thanks. Also, should I use a certain edited version of Mtkflash? The one I got from the net it the options comes up at VT6421a but the one XBM makes says Xtreme Pri Master. Which is correct? Thanks again!!!!!

[langnao]

QUOTE(chelseaboy36 @ Nov 11 2006, 08:02 PM)

Thanks for replying. It is absolutely necessary that I plug in a MTk based drive? My VT6421a is already seen as channel 3. If I do need one can you give me some examples of drives with these chips? I have tried turning on 1 sec to about a minute! Sometimes it does actually start to read but stops at 1%. Plaese reply soon! Thanks. Also, should I use a certain edited version of Mtkflash? The one I got from the net it the options comes up at VT6421a but the one XBM makes says Xtreme Pri Master. Which is correct? Thanks again!!!!!

Only needed if you can't see your SATA chipset selection. Use the one created my XBM. Depends which port u connect, generally Xtreme Pri. Master is okay. If it can't try the other option ...

[mxwizard]

If you arent having problems in as far as you can see your sata chipset connection then have you tried what you are trying to achieve with EVERY OTHER DRIVE DISCONNECTED from your motherboard.....including your hdd/hdd's? As I mentioned above I had pretty much the exact same problems as those that you are experiencing until I read a thread on here written by bolk and it said that mtkflash can be edited to sort out the need for having other drives connected when trying to flash with mtkflash. I edited mtk removed every other drive from my motherboard....BINGO!!! Gotta be worth a try atleast.....if you read the entire thread you will see that this find even got textbook excited lol......kinda strange that he didnt mention any of this in an updated tutorial though....especially as all of the current tutorials specifically state the need to have atleast 1 other drive connected. TRUST ME.....YOU MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT. Like I said I flashed my first ms28 yesterday and it definately helped me bacause you dont get that stupid error 51 / 70 or whatever it is lol. Also my files failed from floppy but using the exact same files from a usb stick drive worked a treat. My motherboard is quite old and I thought it might not boot from a usb stick drive but all I had to do was select yes to search for other devices in my boot options in bios

Heres the thread and once again.....Good Luck mate.

http://forums.xbox-s.....ting mtkflash

[chelseaboy36]

QUOTE(mxwizard @ Nov 11 2006, 12:51 PM)

If you arent having problems in as far as you can see your sata chipset connection then have you tried what you are trying to achieve with EVERY OTHER DRIVE DISCONNECTED from your motherboard.....including your hdd/hdd's? As I mentioned above I had pretty much the exact same problems as those that you are experiencing until I read a thread on here written by bolk and it said that mtkflash can be edited to sort out the need for having other drives connected when trying to flash with mtkflash. I edited mtk removed every other drive from my motherboard....BINGO!!! Gotta be worth a try atleast.....if you read the entire thread you will see that this find even got textbook excited lol......kinda strange that he didnt mention any of this in an updated tutorial though....especially as all of the current tutorials specifically state the need to have atleast 1 other drive connected. TRUST ME.....YOU MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT. Like I said I flashed my first ms28 yesterday and it definately helped me bacause you dont get that stupid error 51 / 70 or whatever it is lol. Also my files failed from floppy but using the exact same files from a usb stick drive worked a treat. My motherboard is quite old and I thought it might not boot from a usb stick drive but all I had to do was select yes to search for other devices in my boot options in bios

Heres the thread and once again.....Good Luck mate.

http://forums.xbox-s.....ting mtkflash

Which program did you use to edit Mtkflash? So you removed everything from your motherboard?

[langnao]

QUOTE(chelseaboy36 @ Nov 11 2006, 09:59 PM)

Which program did you use to edit Mtkflash? So you removed everything from your motherboard?

Didn't you use XBM? Use it to create the mtkflash. Select 'Use custom MTKFlash' and detect the ID-I/O. Check 'MS28 Bad Flash Compatibility and 'Apply Boke's Patch for MS28 Drives'. After this is done, use the MTKFlash found in the XBF folder that you had specified ...

[chelseaboy36]

QUOTE(langnao @ Nov 11 2006, 02:06 PM)

Didn't you use XBM? Use it to create the mtkflash. Select 'Use custom MTKFlash' and detect the ID-I/O. Check 'MS28 Bad Flash Compatibility and 'Apply Boke's Patch for MS28 Drives'. After this is done, use the MTKFlash found in the XBF folder that you had specified ...

Hello. That is what I did the first time. Would it work if I got the Mtkflash from the XBM and put it to the root of my C drive. Then I would type Mtkflash r /m orig.bin? Would that work? Could I just edit the via Mtkflash by opening a hex editor and going to D40. Then I could type eb instead of 75? Would that work?

[odgaf]

dont bother hex editing mtkflash just download extreme bootmaker and it will create a custom mtkflash specifically for your setup no need to hex edit

ill say it again type mtkflash #c to verify wether you have a mtk based pc dvdrom/cdrom if you have one connected it will come baqck with an sst code make sure ur hardrives are unplugged while running this test then plug this drive into the sata ide port i see others have had success trying it the way ur doing it but its obviously not working for you and it didnt work for me either

you NEED the mtk based drive in order for mtkflash to work correctly and in order for the ms28 to go into bad flash mode it seems to me that your sata card is being detected ok by mtkflash hence the option in the channel selection screen however its not picking up the ms28 drive on a channel because u havnt got the mtk based drive either present or plugged into the sata ide i cant stress how important this is for 99 PERCENT of people,

i believe all liteon drives have the mtk based drives in fact most drives do however a small number dont.
try any old cdrom or writer or dvd drive plug em in unplug ur hardrives and boot to dos and type mtkflash #c if u get the sst code back then plug that drive into the sata ide u WILL then get the 4th channel and option 3 will work if it doesnt work ill eat my hat and yours too!

do a search for my previous post on [problems with 6421] you will see a number of people ive helped using this technique others have also posted usefull info on that thread too

[langnao]

QUOTE(chelseaboy36 @ Nov 11 2006, 10:12 PM)

Hello. That is what I did the first time. Would it work if I got the Mtkflash from the XBM and put it to the root of my C drive. Then I would type Mtkflash r /m orig.bin? Would that work? Could I just edit the via Mtkflash by opening a hex editor and going to D40. Then I could type eb instead of 75? Would that work?

Copy both MTKFlash.exe and MTKFlash.typ to where you want it to be. Then just run mtkflash r /m orig.bin as what u had done. Then follow whatever instructions/tutorial like put in the enable0800 disc, blah blah blah and u should be able to read the firmware ...

[chelseaboy36]

QUOTE(chelseaboy36 @ Nov 11 2006, 05:07 PM)

When I type Mtkflash #c it comes up with 2 options. Ich6 Pri Master and Secondary. Is that correct.

Hello. I have just managed to read the firmware. I did this by using xtreme boot maker to format a floppy disc. I turned the pc on without the sata cable in but with the drive powered. Once I got to the command prompt I plugged in the sata cable to my drive. Then I type mtkflash r /m orig.bin. I turned off the drive then typed 3. After 15 seconds I turned it back on and it read. However, when I go to windows the drive key shows up and loads of Fs. Have I done something wrong? Thanks

[Raptor]

QUOTE(mxwizard @ Nov 10 2006, 11:29 PM)

I must have that magic touch too lol, done my first ms28 today and found the timing unimportant. I did notice this though(although I have the via8237 chipset). I tried extreme bootmaker using the latest x360 sam via a floppy and no dice. I used the same files but using a usb flash drive instead and bang.....first time.

Also dont forget the impotance of not connecting the sata cable to the drive until you reach the command prompt.....but then I guess if you got as far as you did you're pretty much there. I would suggest that textbook is correct and that it is a timing issue.....keep trying....start from say 3 seconds slowly and then work your way up until you hit the spot .....but again.....timing was an issue when I tried the floppy method but not an issue when I used the usb flash pen  

Also and again it may be different from system to system but I disconnected every single drive from my motherboard(both hdd's and both dvd rom/writers) so that my 360 drive was the only drive connected....apart from the usb flash drive ofcourse lol

On a side note textbook just how important when entering the samread/samhack command is it too use your serial number in a block of 7 and then a block of 5 samread xxxxxxx yyyyy? I was actually successful with 2 banks of 6 lol...... samread xxxxxx yyyyyy although I obviously used the correct way I did actually try the 2 banks of 6 and everything still worked a treat? Just interested that was all lol

Help got sis180 sata control on board when i turn off 360 and choose master and then turn 360 back on it reboots pc

[langnao]

QUOTE(chelseaboy36 @ Nov 12 2006, 02:01 AM)

Hello. I have just managed to read the firmware. I did this by using xtreme boot maker to format a floppy disc. I turned the pc on without the sata cable in but with the drive powered. Once I got to the command prompt I plugged in the sata cable to my drive. Then I type mtkflash r /m orig.bin. I turned off the drive then typed 3. After 15 seconds I turned it back on and it read. However, when I go to windows the drive key shows up and loads of Fs. Have I done something wrong? Thanks

Make sure the dump firmware is 256K in size. And if possible try not to flash using a floppy disk. You can boot up using floppy, but when u wanna flash, read it off from the harddisk. Safer and less likely to have a read error.

If you are checking the key using toolbox, try using version 2.0...