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d-range

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« Reply #195 on: October 15, 2006, 09:42:00 AM »

QUOTE(calvin940 @ Oct 15 2006, 04:17 PM) *
Possible that MS be able to make a flash routine? Absolutely.  Would they ever do it?  Corporately, I think this would never be advocated.  Lots of things are "possibile/plausible" to do, but "would" they do it? No way for the same reasons they never tried to reflash your xbox fw even though plenty of people had flashable bios.    MS, Sony, Nintendo are not going to take actions resulting in bricked consoles (regardless of how small a percentage that is (sometimes flashes go wrong, power outages happen etc).


Very good point, exactly my thoughts. Knowing M$, either one of 3 things can happen if you'd ask me (in order of likelyness):

1) MS cannot (reliably) check if your fw is hacked for all possible drive/fw combinations, and just accepts that a small percentage of consoles will be hacked. By using tricks like the black glue on new drives they try to keep this percentage as low as possible.
2) MS can detect any type of hacked fw but doesn't want to risk bricking any drives, piss of customers and suffer negative publicity, so they do nothing about hacked fw yet (see option 1). They might already be gathering serials of boxes with illegal fw silently, possibly for later use.
3) MS can detect any type of hacked fw and will do something about it. In this case I don't expect XBL bans (as they still generate revenue), I'd sooner expect that they disable XBL features, put nag screens in the dashboard, maybe even locking the machine up after you've played for a while, that kind of stuff. Just annoy the hell out of you when you're playing a backup. This would defeat the whole purpose of hacking the DVD fw, as your box will be less usable than before the hack. They might introduce some kind of 're-activation' scheme a la Windows XP to have your box unlocked again, once.


QUOTE(calvin940 @ Oct 15 2006, 04:17 PM) *
People are inherently lazy.  They want someone else to tell them answers and do all the work for them.  If they didn't, they would make a fw file the old fashioned way using a hex editor and then also do one with x360sam deal.  They could then compare the resulting bin files using something like ultracompare to see that the bin files created either way are identical.  But, they are too lazy and want all the answers.  These are the people that will also end up bricking their drives because they aren't willing to put in the time necessary to do it right.  These are also the people that always ask "I hear flashing fw is possible to play backups.  How do I do it?" That for me is an instant ignore.  There are so many freakin posts here about all aspects of it that it is unforgiving to ask such questions when searches or browsing will give you what you need.


Again, very good point. I'm absolutely amazed by the questions in this thread. The same questions are asked 5 times over and over, while literally all you need to know is already available through the forums, readmes etc... Also some answers and theories here are just plain bollocks, which doesn't help either. I knew absolutely nothing about fw hacking when I flashed my drive and found out everything I need in less then 30 minutes. If you're not smart enough to find the information and tools you need to do it right 1st time around, then just forget about it and let someone else take care of it because you might very well brick your drive.

This post has been edited by d-range: Oct 15 2006, 04:46 PM
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Firf

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« Reply #196 on: October 15, 2006, 09:46:00 AM »

I saw an earlier post about M$ bricking your drive.  Not going to happen.  Remember, that the actual act of flashing or otherwise modding your 360 is not breaking the law.  Your warranty, yes, its toast.  You own your 360 and can do whatever you want to do to it.  You also likely break your license agreement with Live!, thus the potential banning process (they own live and can be discriminatory about how they allow or disallow users and on what basis, as long as it is reasonable and there is an appeals process (somewhere to call if you think you have been done wrong)).  They fully own Live! (you only have a 'subscription') and can make the rules, you own your 360, you make the rules (at the risk of losing your warranty and the potential for breaking any license agreements). They do not, nor would, 'brick your drive' by flashing it...  They cannot make assumptions regarding what you are doing with your modded firmware, assumptions are not evidence.  Jeez... there must be some great bud associated with these threads, because this is some funny ass paranoia being posted here!!!  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

So stop smoking the goods unless you can handle it!!!  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)

P.S.  Better not put that bong in the dishwasher, Maytag may 'assume' your smoking bud and come to your house and arrest you!!!

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nachomans

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« Reply #197 on: October 15, 2006, 10:47:00 AM »

Hey....we dont even know if the xbox360 southbridge can flash a drive....
The southbridge is custom, so nobody knows if it can flash a drive...so stop telling sh*t....
Just wait....and we´ll see... smile.gif
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« Reply #198 on: October 15, 2006, 02:37:00 PM »

QUOTE(shbykty @ Oct 15 2006, 09:22 AM) View Post

Exobex said to edit a single line in a batch file to point to the new .BIN - What file are you referring to?

Below is my samread batch file.  It refers to xtreme32.bin, should the x360sam.exe line be edited to point to extreme40a.bin and also the samremod.bat for those who have already flashed using that PC?  

I ask this because I was thinking about using the 3.3 firmware just so I can feel somewhat vindicated for the effort put into this process.  
@echo off
md BACKUPS
if "%1" == "" goto usage
if "%2" == "" goto usage
md BACKUPS\%2
md BACKUPS\%2\%1
if not exist BACKUPS\%2\%1\ORIG.BIN goto step1
echo ORIG.BIN for Xbox 360 s/n %1 %2 already exists - aborting!
goto end
:step1
mtkflash r /m BACKUPS\%2\%1\ORIG.BIN
x360sam BACKUPS\%2\%1\ORIG.BIN SAMSUNG\XTREME32.BIN BACKUPS\%2\%1\HACKED.BIN
if errorlevel 1 goto end
echo.
echo Now unplug the SATA cable and power-cycle the PC & DVD drive before running
echo SAMHACK.BAT %1 %2
goto end
:usage
echo Usage: %0 7-digit serial 5-digit serial
echo e.g. %0 1234567 61005
echo This will create a folder for that particular Xbox 360, read the original
echo firmware (as ORIG.BIN) and create a modified firmware (as HACKED.BIN).
echo If ORIG.BIN for that Xbox 360 already exists THE PROCESS IS ABORTED!
:end

Yep, you've got it.  Replace XTREME32.BIN with XTREM40A.BIN or XTREME40B.BIN, depending on which one you want.  Same goes for SAMREMOD.BAT.
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« Reply #199 on: October 15, 2006, 03:17:00 PM »

OK I have to ask a stupid question.....if the drive can detect whether you have inserted a copied disk or whether you have inserted an original then can't MSFT do the same....and if they can what is the point of stealth?

I am a dummy so if I am way off and this is a retarded question I'm sorry.
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« Reply #200 on: October 15, 2006, 04:18:00 PM »

QUOTE(Firf @ Oct 15 2006, 11:17 AM) View Post


So stop smoking the goods unless you can handle it!!!  jester.gif




Maybe thats why people are bricking their drives. Getting stoned, not reading tutorials and messing up.


Smoke AFTER you successfully flash your drive   cool.gif
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« Reply #201 on: October 15, 2006, 04:43:00 PM »

i just read through 15 pages, and you all confused me more than i started. i have flashed before since first release and was breeze for me. but a few question i'd like cleared up

1. do i copy over my orig.bin and run "Make X40a/b.bin" OR do i run the X360SAM.exe (which one!!!???) or is it personal preference and you can run either one???

ok thnx!

btw - what program/utility are all you guys using to rip your games? i have still been using the isobuster method all this time? is there any difference? is it ok to still use isobuster method or better to use another program?

using isobuster method will i still have a fully stealth backup if i just dump the ripped iso.bin and ss.bin into the "Xbox 360 Stealth" folder and run "build360"

thnx a bunch!
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« Reply #202 on: October 15, 2006, 04:54:00 PM »

lol i feel so stupid, sorry i didnt have readme on me i'm at work and havent d.l the new FW yet... was just reading up to prepare b4 i flashed...

so basically the sam360 is another method for more exp users that wanna flash the drive in windows quicker or sometihng along those lines, i can safely ignore the sam360 file?

oh and yeh whats the best tool today for creating your x360 game dumps

thnx
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« Reply #203 on: October 15, 2006, 06:38:00 PM »

QUOTE(calvin940 @ Oct 16 2006, 12:17 AM) View Post

Reflashing it once doesn't make sense because I would just go and flash it back to 4.0 or whatever right away, so if they were to put together a reflashing strategy, it would have to be one that checks and reflashes when it is not "orig".

Yeah I meant they wouldn't reflash every console, only if you have hacked firmware. So they have a sector which enables 0800 mode (just like enable0800.iso) so they can read the firmware - if its hacked then reflash. Even if you can go and pull apart your box and reflash again, they reflash when you put the game back in. Surely that would get annoying after a while tongue.gif And if they bricked your drive in the process I wouldn't think youd have a leg to stand on.

QUOTE(calvin940 @ Oct 16 2006, 12:17 AM) View Post

Possible that MS be able to make a flash routine? Absolutely.  Would they ever do it?  Corporately, I think this would never be advocated.  Lots of things are "possibile/plausible" to do, but "would" they do it? No way for the same reasons they never tried to reflash your xbox fw even though plenty of people had flashable bios.    MS, Sony, Nintendo are not going to take actions resulting in bricked consoles (regardless of how small a percentage that is (sometimes flashes go wrong, power outages happen etc).

Hey if it only flashes if youve got hacked firmware and you happen to have a power out and it bricks your drive, why do they have to do anything? youve ended your warranty, why would they care if you payed some stupidly high price for some dude to throw in another DVD drive. Good point with the xbox1 though, I didn't think of it like that.

S

edit: I should really read through my posts before putting them up tongue.gif. fixed some sentences that didn't make sense...
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« Reply #204 on: October 15, 2006, 06:47:00 PM »

ok im trying to flash 4.0A on my samsung drive and i i backed up my original firmware on a floppy and now the floppy doesnt work so ive lost my orignal firmware is there anyway that i can get my keys back so that i can flash my 3.3 firmware to 4.0a firmware?
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« Reply #205 on: October 15, 2006, 06:50:00 PM »

QUOTE(n0un @ Oct 15 2006, 08:54 PM) View Post

ok im trying to flash 4.0A on my samsung drive and i i backed up my original firmware on a floppy and now the floppy doesnt work so ive lost my orignal firmware is there anyway that i can get my keys back so that i can flash my 3.3 firmware to 4.0a firmware?


Well first, I must say that trusting a floppy with your only original firmware backup was stupid.  Floppys are never reliable.

Beyond that, your 3.3 firmware has your key in it of course.
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« Reply #206 on: October 15, 2006, 09:12:00 PM »

Hey good work Commodore4eva, just flashed it and it works like a charm.

I also tried my Burnout Revenge backup in "slow speed mode" using xtreme 3.3 and 4.0 and the intro skips in both firmwares, so there is no difference about this.
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« Reply #207 on: October 15, 2006, 09:43:00 PM »

QUOTE(reznor666 @ Oct 15 2006, 04:12 AM) View Post

if this firmware is based on the MS28 firmware does it require the following to remove / replace the V40 firmware once it is on your drive.

"For ms28 firmware versions of drive you will need to use the Vcc method or the VIA SATA 10 sec method to read/write flash."

im asking coz if so, then to enable read and write you need the 0800 disc in the drive but if u are using the 10 sec trick you need to turn your console off therefore disabling the 0800 disc...




Logicaly you can read/write without 0800 disc the v4.0 (as ms28) with recovery flash and compatible sata, without even the vcc thing.

Can someone correct me or just confirm this?
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« Reply #208 on: October 15, 2006, 09:46:00 PM »

QUOTE(OriginalCompGeek @ Oct 14 2006, 12:55 AM) View Post

Every reason!

Stealth firmware!

Thanks
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« Reply #209 on: October 15, 2006, 09:53:00 PM »

add one more to that list of success biggrin.gif  tongue.gif  biggrin.gif
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