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[DMT]

Dear inmates,

Last week I tried to flash a ms28 drive, no luck at all. I couldn't get the dump process started. Most time MTKflash reported that there was no drive found. Some times the counter started but it never came further than  the 00%. I've tried it on 3 different pc's with different chipsets, one of them I'm sure people reported succesfull flashes.
With different bootdiscs (freedos, MSDOS, USB, Diskette) with differente versions of MTKflash (hex edited versions from the v41 guide I've found. First I've tried with SAM360 but then I manualy typed the command line to try.
I've used the ODD / DVD adapter from Team Xecuter to power the drive. I've tried in both modes (normal and modeb) no luck at all. So finally I decided to give up and rebuild the system.

Powering the 360 gives me an error. So I reopened the 360 to look if I perhaps forgot some cables.
After some fuzzling around I found the drive will not even eject anymore.

So I connected the drive to my pc to check if it will eject but it won't. The drive did eject before (with the ODD) so I don't know what happened.

It looks like the complete power of the drive is away. So i think a component of this drive is defective.

- Does anyone know what component could be dead? Then maybe I can try to replace it.
- Can the wire trick (applied via the ODD adapter of executer) be the problem?

Maybe someone knows some things to try. I don't know what ruined my drive because I couldn't read at all. I'm very sure it's not bad-flashed because I didn't came so far.

Thanks for your help and saving the live of another 360 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[angry_rabbit]

Without seeing the pcb its hard to suggest what the fault might be. My guess is thr dual reg is shot; look for burn mark or a hole in a chip near the sst. The RT9184 is a 2.5 & 3.3 volt reg. Use a multimeter to see if the it's functioning. That part is difficult to buy unless u buy thousands. Suggest u get the sst removed; read it to get u're key, then buy a replacemnt sammy.  If u pm me with a sharp hires pix I might be able to spot the problem.

[angry_rabbit]

Here's a link to a good pix
http://harcon.org/x360/TSH943A-MS28.pdf
The small 8 pin smd is what I am refering to

[ek247]

I got EXACTLY the same problem with my sammy, dump never wnt pass 00%
i'll post a Hi-Res picture later, hope someone can help me out.

If all else fails do I just remove the SST chip, read it and dump it on a new sammy using MTKflash.
or do i have to remove the chip from the new sammy drive and programme it using a programmer such as labprog/up48?

[ek247]

just took a picture of my board, hope you someone can help

picture

picture2

This post has been edited by ek247: Oct 10 2006, 03:16 PM

[-Gadget-]

whats going on at those 3 componants ..
the place were u remove smd resistor and attach two bits o wire ? ...

maybe summit not right there ?... cannot se proper on pic ..

Mick ..

[ek247]

i did the vcc trick to read the drive, its a peice of wire, i cut the length so its not touching anything else. but still cant read the chip.

O and when put the console back together, it gave me error e 64  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

[Alcoholx]

the vcc solder points need to be reconnected or the drive will not power up... if you can salvage the solder job then if youve not managed to flash the drive it may still be ok, the solder points do not very healthy though and it looks like youve got vey close to another trace on the point nearest the chip

This post has been edited by Alcoholx: Oct 10 2006, 11:20 PM

[gimpydingo]

Why not just use the bad flash recovery method? No soldering needed. Just begin the flash process, power off the 360, count to 10 and power back on should begin to flash.

[majik655]

Well I am no guru at soldering or electronics for that matter.. BUT

The pictures you gave really need to be higher res(better quality whatever) for us(or anyone that knows anything) to be able to help more...

Again BUT..
Picture one where you did the removal of resistor..
When I first looked at those connections it is not easy to see at all but my first thought is I think I see solder flow or silver leading away from the bottom (if looking at your pic in the default posistion.)

NOT the wire you still have connected.. remove that.

Then get a magnifying glass and look at the pads left IF ANY?  that the resistor use to attach to.

Look at the traces leading away from those pads... I do see silverish traces leading away from that resistor.. I wonder what they look like connected to the pads.   maybe they are broken.

Next while you have you magnification going.. look at the resistor on both sides and their connections.
It looks burnt on one side more than the other...but it could just be the picture.

If you get some sort of good magnification utensil.. it helps soooo much in seeing bad connections.

If anything clean up those connections.. and bridge those 2 pads with solder and see what happens.

Just some ideas.

This post has been edited by majik655: Oct 11 2006, 12:03 AM

[ek247]

QUOTE(gimpydingo @ Oct 10 2006, 10:56 PM)

Why not just use the bad flash recovery method? No soldering needed. Just begin the flash process, power off the 360, count to 10 and power back on should begin to flash.

I can't use bad flash recovery method because I havnt got an original.bin saved, because when i tried to save original.bin the ssving process does not go past 00%

I did hear a small electric current blow when i connected the two wires while doing the VCC method. am thinking if I have blown somthing  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Also i get error e 64, does that mean my SST chip is curropt and my key is lost forever?

[majik655]

QUOTE(ek247 @ Oct 11 2006, 02:40 AM)

I can't use bad flash recovery method because I havnt got an original.bin saved, because when i tried to save original.bin the ssving process does not go past 00%

I did hear a small electric current blow when i connected the two wires while doing the VCC method. am thinking if I have blown somthing  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

Also i get error e 64, does that mean my SST chip is curropt and my key is lost forever?

that error 64 is just the box does not see the firmware on the dvd drive.

YOU MUST BRIDGE the connection in place of the resistor you took off with a blob of solder.
That is a must before knowing anything.

From there see what error you get (yes it could be the same thing).
If say one of those resistors next to the one you took off is not connected or the tracks are lifted.. I beleieve you would get that error also ...   the box just thinks there is no firmware.

You are going to have to fix those connections to be able to go any further.  
then multi meter everything to make sure you  have connectivity.  And also make sure something is not touching anything .  those resistors are pretty close together and easy to make solder touch each other.

[DMT]

Thank you all for your reply!

In my case I didn't open the drive at all. No VCC trick, just tried to read out the firmware with mtkflash and a VIA chipset, that's all. I've powered it with the PC Powersupply using the Xecuter ODD conn. kit pcb.

Angry Rabbit, thank you for your suggestion, I'll take a look at that eight legged freak (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) and let you if I find something. Can you tell me what to read out with the multi meter? Or just see if some legs connecting?

If that smd is the problem, can I rip it out of something elso? I mean, is it commonly used in something? Like DVD drives or so, or drive from the older xbox? Or is there any substitute for it?

I'll open the drive and look at the pcb and try to find out it's state..

DMT

[angry_rabbit]

look @ for 5v restoration after damaging pads
http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php?topic=4340.0
On the LHS pins of the smd starting from
pin 1 = 2.5v
pin 2 =   5v
pin 3 = 3.3v
pin 4 =   5v
visit www.richteck.com to pull down the spec sheet

[DMT]

Angry Rabbit, tanks again for your major help!

I'll try this in the weekend because I need to buy a new pencil for my multi-meter... Then I'll try to find out if the voltages are matching.