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[jameswalter]

You will need to hook up the 360 anyway to get the DMI and PFI...so just make a complete backup all at once.

[BoNg420]

why dont you just put the real game in and get the DMI and PFI off that and then rerip your original.  also you arent supposed to talk about backing up a backup on these forums.

[jameswalter]

QUOTE(tommy_vice @ Sep 23 2006, 07:54 PM)

the only one that is making himself look worse is you, i am not braking the rules, tell me what i said that broke the rules of the XS

From the pinned topic in this forum about what not to discuss (DMI/PFI are part of copyright code just like the SS):

WHAT IS NOT ALLOWED
Any talk of making multiple backups from other backups (no cute excuses like , its for the neighbour/friend who legally owns the copy). If your backup is damaged re-rip the original having disposed of the damaged one. You are legally (in most places not all) allowed one back up of a game you legally own. The staff here are only too well aware of why people want to make multiple backups and its not for legal reasons so it stays away from the posts in here.

Any Talk of downloading games from the internet, newsgroups or any other illegal source. Any talk of downloading SS (copyright ) from the same. Don't spout the old crap I own the game so I can legally download.

[jameswalter]

QUOTE(tommy_vice @ Sep 23 2006, 06:12 PM)

but maybe I could get the DMI and PFI somewhere on the internet so I dont have to get in troube with x360, lets suppose i get the files online is it possible to do it?

Downloading copyrighted code is illegal buddy.

[jameswalter]

QUOTE(jameswalter @ Sep 23 2006, 06:46 PM)

Lets suppose thats illegal to do (and it is) and XS doesn't permit it to be discussed (which it doesn't).  Just re-rip the damn game.

What part of this quote did you not understand.  I very nicely put that downloading the DMI/PFI is illegal and XS doesn't permit it to be discussed.  Apperently you didn't understand when I said that the rules for what is allowed is in the pinned topics in this forum (these are in addition to the rules on the main forum page).

[jameswalter]

QUOTE(tommy_vice @ Sep 23 2006, 09:03 PM)

ok I admit I said something illegal, i didnt know

Thats why I nicely informed you....just before you decided to start the smack talking.  Just so you know....getting games before release date is not that hard....and it happens more than you know.  You also can't make that assumption...all demo downloads show up in your profile when you play the game (why most of my games show no progress in my profile).

[mrjkwik]

you know, this argument is pretty lame right.  why not just revise the whole conversation.

you told him to hook his drive back up and pull the dmi and pfi correct?  now all the backups i've made with xbox backup creator have "complete backups".  but i see in there that you should be able to pull the dmi and pfi using the drive tools.  

so, my question is, can he pull the dmi and pfi using drive tools, then patch the existing image he has on his hd using the image tools part of xbox backup creator?

also, i'm gonna have to disagree with the theory that this is a "backup of a backup".  in my opinion, that entails taking a burned backup copy, and making a copy with that.  

going by what your saying, if i store my images on my computer, then reburn it down the road, i'm making a backup of a backup, when i'm actually reburning my original backup image, not a copy of it.  

now, what i said is assuming the original poster has the original.  although i have seen "stealth patches" on the internet, not sure they'd work with "xbc".  and again, i havent done the patching myself, since i've only used the "complete backup" part of "xbc".

so, to original poster, IF you have the originals, give what i suggested a try.  maybe someone who has done that could provide more info.

to james, not trying to argue with you.  just showing a simple disagreement in your defination of "backup of a backup".  only the mods know for sure what they expect.  

but you are right that he shouldnt have mentioned about getting the files from the net.

[tommy_vice]

now we are talking, so is it possible?

[mrjkwik]

only other advice i can give is to try it.  i dont know for sure.  just using logic.

[mrjkwik]

what you could do is go to the 360 - software forums, and post in the xbox backup creator thread and ask if what i said would work.  just look for an answer by redline, since its his app.

[ILLusions0fGrander]

lets keep the arguments down and stay within the rules of the forum.

no you cannot discuss downloading these files, and whether or not you can get these files from  an already burned non-stealth backup seems a legit enough question.

if you have something to contribute, do so, if someone breaks the rules, hit report, try not to start an on-going argument.

[mrjkwik]

this isnt worth discussing anymore here.  a mod has spoken.  and the debate as to what a "backup of a backup" is doesnt belong here anymore.

your making too many assumptions about the o.p.  the only thing your right on, is he was discussed downloaded dmi/pfi, which is a no no.

[mrjkwik]

just saying its not worth debating here any longer.  and it will just get the thread closed anyway (which it might as well).

feel free to start a topic about defining a "backup" and a "backup of a backup" in an appropriate forum and i'll be more than happy to jump in.  but i think my opinion on the subject is already made.  

i really dont care about the o.p's intent or sources.  i was only trying to answer "can a non stealth IMAGE be patched into a stealth IMAGE."  i know thats not exactly what he asked, but thats what i was trying to answer since i've seen it asked before.  and if you look at the user interface of xbox backup creator, i'd say the answer is yes. but since i've never had the issue, cant say for sure.



EDIT: yeah, i saw him make that post.  he's definately wording his posts in a less than favorable manor.  oh well.

[hammybunghole]

Just my 2 cents worth but is any of this legal?
Installer of SoftMod/TSOP/Chips in the Portland, OR / Vancouver, WA area. Email [email protected] for more info ($20 chip ($25 for 1.6), $20 TSOP, $20 softmod (No HD upgrade), $10 HD upgrade (TSOP/chip only) ($5 if w/ install))
 Don't think so

[chalosf]

QUOTE(hammybunghole @ Sep 25 2006, 01:41 AM)

Just my 2 cents worth but is any of this legal?
Installer of SoftMod/TSOP/Chips in the Portland, OR / Vancouver, WA area. Email [email protected] for more info ($20 chip ($25 for 1.6), $20 TSOP, $20 softmod (No HD upgrade), $10 HD upgrade (TSOP/chip only) ($5 if w/ install))
 Don't think so

   yeah...This jameswalter character tries to hard to be considered for a moderator, its pretty obvious what his intensions are with all the dumb remarks he make to people who post, tries to sound smart but doesn't know anything yet he thinks he knows everything, specially about legal stuff.