Topic: Open Tray Error After So Long (Read 386 times)

ntloser · « **Reply #30 on:** September 21, 2006, 03:36:00 PM »

I couldn't edit

I made another back up of Prey using the Pioneer. Just like the back up of Amped it worked in the hot system. YAY!!!

Mana · « **Reply #31 on:** September 21, 2006, 05:43:00 PM »

what media u using mate?

ntloser · « **Reply #32 on:** September 22, 2006, 02:08:00 AM »

http://www.verbatim....E286B6E0039C276

OriginalCompGeek · « **Reply #33 on:** September 22, 2006, 05:05:00 AM »

I must be the most fortunate person here.

I have flashed my drive twice (literally, no bad flashes, the firmware has been flashed exactly two times) one to 2.0, then to 3.3. I have NEVER gotten a read error, at full speed or other wise. I have also NEVER gotten a coster, every single one of my burns has been successful.

My experience with firmware flashing and backups is like a dream.

ntloser · « **Reply #34 on:** September 22, 2006, 05:17:00 AM »

UGH..DAMN I THOUGHT I HAD IT!!!!

I took the box fan away from the 360 to do some more testing.. It seems the 360 can read back ups burned with the 111-D better but still not as good as the originals.

111-D back ups will be recognized within the first few minutes of boot up or, at any time as long as a house fan is blowing on the 360.

Lite-On back ups will be recognized within the first few minutes of boot up or at any time if the case is off and fans are blowing on it.

Originals .. all the time

Once either type of back up is recognized, they play for hours

Tailsmoon and intercooler here I come

This post has been edited by ntloser: Sep 22 2006, 12:24 PM

mrjkwik · « **Reply #35 on:** September 22, 2006, 05:48:00 AM »

ntloser,

i reread this thread and saw that you were willing to try the pot tweak, but dont see where you tried it. i'd suggest trying it before putting more money out. if you have a volt meter, then the only thing it will cost you is time and patience. just follow that tutorial in the pot tweaking thread by moda.

also, if you do, it wont take much to move the screw just a hair. you cant really even see it move. apply some pressure like your gonna turn it, then recheck its numbers. just dont go below 3.0.

ntloser · « **Reply #36 on:** September 22, 2006, 06:31:00 AM »

I wanted to leave the pot tweak as the final straw.

Dynt went down to 2.8 and still couldn't get the open tray message to stop. But when the xbox is cooled the results are always positive.

This post has been edited by ntloser: Sep 22 2006, 01:37 PM

SOA · « **Reply #37 on:** September 22, 2006, 07:10:00 AM »

ok....
The only thing that makes sence to me is that it is a heating issue...
there are soo many ppl that have done the pot tweak and have got nothing....pot tweaking is very dangerous and will reduce the life of your laser and if u do blow the laser replacing the laser is such a pain as the angles of your new laser will never be the same as your old laser (angle that moves it left and right + the angle that moves it up and down......)

someone also suggested that it could be a bug in the FW and the laser dosent know where the middle is.......There was a video on the forums somewhere.... But this cant be true because if it was the laser not knowing where the middle is, it would do the open tray everytime and it would not succed after a 1 min cool down....

Conclusion:
the issue is heat, as the GPU is directly under the dvd drive heat goes directly to the drive, this some how affects the lasers ability to read,,,(i dont know much about Light.Amplification.By.Stimulated.Emition.Of.Radiation

maybe someone can shed some light of Heating effects on Lasers.....

Mana · « **Reply #38 on:** September 22, 2006, 09:55:00 AM »

ok intercooler is here ladies and gents.

the heat issue with me is that the gpu and cpu are undeneath the dvd drive or near it and after a few hours of gaming the dvd drive gets hot and doesnt like reading backups and i get open tray. house fan on the xbox case reduces this but doesnt completely eliminate it.

anyway, i whacked in the intercooler, played saints row for a few hours then left it running. changed to test drive backup which ALWAYS gives me open tray. booted up first time. i felt the side of the xbox, particularly the hottest part (underneath the dvd drive) where the cpu and gpu are. befor eintercooler it was very very warm, near hot.

now its just lukewarm. the intercooler really does pump out the air. it does add some noise but u cant hear it over music of ingame sounds so i am happy.

i realise i could have saved myself £15 and done a pot tweak but it was just too risky for me man. this way i have fixed my open tray and potentially lengthened the life of my xbox cos of the cooler temps and didnt have to tweak my laser.

ntloser let me know how u go with your intercooler and fans (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

with talismans your thing really should be cool. if that doesnt work then like u said u still have the pot tweak to try...

ntloser · « **Reply #39 on:** September 22, 2006, 10:51:00 AM »

QUOTE(Mana @ Sep 22 2006, 12:02 PM)

ok intercooler is here ladies and gents.

the heat issue with me is that the gpu and cpu are undeneath the dvd drive or near it and after a few hours of gaming the dvd drive gets hot and doesnt like reading backups and i get open tray. house fan on the xbox case reduces this but doesnt completely eliminate it.

anyway, i whacked in the intercooler, played saints row for a few hours then left it running. changed to test drive backup which ALWAYS gives me open tray. booted up first time. i felt the side of the xbox, particularly the hottest part (underneath the dvd drive) where the cpu and gpu are. befor eintercooler it was very very warm, near hot.

now its just lukewarm. the intercooler really does pump out the air. it does add some noise but u cant hear it over music of ingame sounds so i am happy.

i realise i could have saved myself £15 and done a pot tweak but it was just too risky for me man. this way i have fixed my open tray and potentially lengthened the life of my xbox cos of the cooler temps and didnt have to tweak my laser.

ntloser let me know how u go with your intercooler and fans (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

with talismans your thing really should be cool. if that doesnt work then like u said u still have the pot tweak to try...

Excellent .. I am glad the intercooler fixed it. I ordered the Intercooler, Tailsmoon fans (green), Arctic 5 thermal compound, and thermal compound remover . I am also going to pick up a torx 6 and some cutting pieces for my dremel locally. If the Intercooler fails I will do this...

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=467045

AND THIS

(IMG:http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/ntloser/Xbox/360metal7.jpg)

This post has been edited by ntloser: Sep 22 2006, 05:51 PM

Mana · « **Reply #40 on:** September 22, 2006, 11:42:00 AM »

more testing, saints row for a 2 hours (escorting some bitches around

) took disc out went to dash, put test drive, booted

played for 1 hour, put in dead rising booted

i think my open tray days are gone! not even got the house fan pointing at the xbox anymore, just the intercooler running.

i am a happy bunny and i didnt have to touch my POT!

heh, u do all those mods ntloser and no way heat will be affecting your dvddrive

but i am pretty sure the intercooler will solve your problems

ntloser · « **Reply #41 on:** September 22, 2006, 12:32:00 PM »

QUOTE(Mana @ Sep 22 2006, 01:49 PM)

more testing, saints row for a 2 hours (escorting some bitches around

) took disc out went to dash, put test drive, booted

played for 1 hour, put in dead rising booted

i think my open tray days are gone! not even got the house fan pointing at the xbox anymore, just the intercooler running.

i am a happy bunny and i didnt have to touch my POT!

heh, u do all those mods ntloser and no way heat will be affecting your dvddrive

but i am pretty sure the intercooler will solve your problems

I hope so.. I am tired of taking it apart .. Saints Row is awesome. That is the game I play most of the time.

ntloser · « **Reply #42 on:** September 22, 2006, 01:26:00 PM »

Hey Mana,

Just wondering, do you ever hit eject on the dvd drive and it doesn't open. It will say opening then nothing happens then is says reading.. and you have to hit eject again..

Just curious and didn't want to start a whole other thread

Mana · « **Reply #43 on:** September 22, 2006, 01:54:00 PM »

no mate, sorry i dont have that problem and i have never had it happen once. i think tho that the issue of the dvd tray not opening is again down to heat.

get that intercooler and talisman asap!

Gatecra5her · « **Reply #44 on:** September 23, 2006, 04:22:00 AM »

Thanks for the info guys, i've just ordered the intercooler (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Just a thought though, did all of you having the "open tray" issue have to do the vcc trick? If so, did you replace the resistor? I'm just wondering if that's the cause of anything?

-Mark

This post has been edited by Gatecra5her: Sep 23 2006, 11:26 AM

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