Topic: Open Tray Error After So Long (Read 385 times)

Mana · « **Reply #15 on:** September 18, 2006, 04:05:00 AM »

i have an xbox 360 ms28, flashed using bad flash method with xtreme 3.3 firmware. to burn backups/releases i use a pioneer 111d with latest firmware and verbatin dvddl+r burnt at 2.4x. backups and originals did play fine sometimes tho after i have played a little, if i change games, i get the open tray problem.

its a pain, if i let the xbox cool down like leave it for 5 mins it boots so makes me think this is a heat problemor also i have heard that an older version of xtreme, like 3.2 might fix the problem?

dynt · « **Reply #16 on:** September 18, 2006, 09:00:00 AM »

same prob as everyone else but i have pot tweaked to 2.8 ohms i am considering going back to v3 the only thing that seems to work is put an original then go straight to a backup

ntloser · « **Reply #17 on:** September 18, 2006, 09:23:00 AM »

going back to 3.2 doesn't fix it.. I posted in another similar thread about running a test to see if heat is a factor in all this.

Just taking the 360 out of the case and have some fans blowing across/on it.. to keep it cool.

Anybody up to it?

mrjkwik · « **Reply #18 on:** September 18, 2006, 09:26:00 AM »

QUOTE(dynt @ Sep 18 2006, 11:07 AM)

same prob as everyone else but i have pot tweaked to 2.8 ohms i am considering going back to v3 the only thing that seems to work is put an original then go straight to a backup

assuming your using 3.3, thats because when you insert an original, it switches the drive to "slow" mode for backups.

personally, i'm a believer in the "pot tweak". once tweaked mine down to 3.3 i've had no problems. as i've stated before, replacing a laser is still cheaper than replacing a retail disc.

Mana · « **Reply #19 on:** September 18, 2006, 10:27:00 AM »

couldnt be assed to open up the xbox360...

but i opened up a window, put my house fan near the case, played saints row (backup for 2 hours), changed to 99 nights (backup), booted fine.

tried pgr3 (original) played for 1 hour, tried saints row (backup) , booted fine...

heat is definately the issue at least for me...

i aint got the big ballens to pot, so i have ordered the intercooler...

my room is very warm btw (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

when the intercooler (its cheap anyway) i will let u guys know how it goes...

ntloser · « **Reply #20 on:** September 19, 2006, 04:43:00 AM »

It looks like heat is contributing factor for me too. Unfortunately I have to take the case off all together. Just putting fans around mine isnt good enough. I am going to do more testing .. but for now I am able to go from an hour of Saints Row to a back up to back up with out any open tray issue..

Mana · « **Reply #21 on:** September 19, 2006, 01:25:00 PM »

just to say again, i found that putting the xbox flat and not standing up makes the disc read better...

also i played dead rising for about an hour, and i had a house fan blowing on the xbox...

switched to saints row and it booted fine...

definately heat, which i am glad of cos i really didnt want to open up my xbox and play with the POT. seems even more risk than just flashing.

intercooler on the way as well so hopefully i wont have to have the fan blowing on the xbox now

ntloser · « **Reply #22 on:** September 20, 2006, 08:07:00 AM »

I hope the Intercooler works for you.

I wonder how much it will cool it down? I might as well try it too. Hopefully it will work fo rme too.

I had to take off the case and put fans on it to make the open tray error disappear. Mine was still too hot with the case on. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (That is what I mean by "Just putting fans around mine isnt good enough")

This post has been edited by ntloser: Sep 20 2006, 03:11 PM

Mana · « **Reply #23 on:** September 21, 2006, 06:21:00 AM »

well i did some reading...

the problem with heat and open tray is that the the cpu and gpu are located under the drive and so after playing for a few hours the dvd drive heats up...

apparently the intercooler will cool down these areas by up to 8C which is a pretty big drop... hence i am hoping that this will be enough to make the sammie pick up backups. well it should do as a house fan blowing over the xbox has fixed it..,

JayQue · « **Reply #24 on:** September 21, 2006, 07:58:00 AM »

i got a little fix i discovered here

ntloser · « **Reply #25 on:** September 21, 2006, 09:22:00 AM »

I saw that video but it was unclear if that had to be done each time.

Mana,

Do you think the replacement fans may be better than the intercooler?

Mana · « **Reply #26 on:** September 21, 2006, 09:31:00 AM »

what replacement fans are u talking about mate , the fans that u have added inside your case?

thats prolly the best solution but then if u have to leave your xbox case open its not really worth it as it looks so fugly.

intercooler will be here tomorrow and i will let u know how it goes.

just to retest i played an hour of saints row without my house fan pointing on the xbox. tried to switch on dead rising and open tray.

house fan is on, let the xbox cool down for 1 minute and the thing booted fine.

ntloser · « **Reply #27 on:** September 21, 2006, 09:37:00 AM »

QUOTE(Mana @ Sep 21 2006, 11:38 AM)

what replacement fans are u talking about mate , the fans that u have added inside your case?

thats prolly the best solution but then if u have to leave your xbox case open its not really worth it as it looks so fugly.

intercooler will be here tomorrow and i will let u know how it goes.

just to retest i played an hour of saints row without my house fan pointing on the xbox. tried to switch on dead rising and open tray.

house fan is on, let the xbox cool down for 1 minute and the thing booted fine.

Duh sorry for not being clear.. the tailsmoon fans.

http://www.talismoon...whisperfan-blue

Mana · « **Reply #28 on:** September 21, 2006, 02:27:00 PM »

ah looks interesting, i think i would go for them rather than the intercooler...

but i have already ordered the intercooler already so i will let that have its test drive and see how i go.

might order the talismans and get the ultimate air cooled xbox eh

ntloser · « **Reply #29 on:** September 21, 2006, 02:52:00 PM »

Wow.. it looks like burn quality is also a factor..

Today i got my new black knight case. Since I have no case modding skills, this was the best I could do for now.
I put the 360 back together and played the original Saints Row for an hour then left Saints running for another 2. In the mean time, I installed a Pioneer 111-D into my PC and made a back up of Amped 3. It played!!!

I went to another back up I made using the Lite-on and got "Open Tray", then I tried Amped 3 againand it worked again.

I am now backing up my games again using the 111-D to see if they will play all the time..Will post.

Man I hope that was all it was.. I am still going to get the fans and an Intercooler.. It can't hurt..

This post has been edited by ntloser: Sep 21 2006, 09:55 PM

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