Topic: Open Tray Error After So Long (Read 387 times)

benten2000 · « **on:** September 13, 2006, 01:16:00 PM »

I have the TS-H942 DVD drive which I have flashed perfectly with xtreme v3.3

The backups I've been using have been working perfectly for the past few weeks (burnt on a Pioneer 108 fw1.20 using Verbatim (MKM 001) at 2.4 speed)
All has been perfect up until a yesterday when the sometimes the backups just refuse to start (stays at Open Tray), originals still work perfectly though.

Any helpers?

MaxEgg · « **Reply #1 on:** September 13, 2006, 01:35:00 PM »

happens to me, to fix it, i just play an original until the system has been on a few minutes.
as soon as it cozy warm, stop the original and play all my backups perfectly fine after that.

kind of weird if you ask me, but heh it works.

ash1471 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 13, 2006, 02:09:00 PM »

Should have stuck with 3.2 and played backups never had an issue. To me this is the best firmware available. As it spins the backups just like originals (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

benten2000 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 13, 2006, 02:44:00 PM »

I'll put 3.2 back on and see how it fairs then

mrjkwik · « **Reply #4 on:** September 13, 2006, 08:45:00 PM »

QUOTE

(v3.3) Dual Read Speed mode (Quite/Slow Read mode for backups activated via any Xbox 360/Xbox 1 Original game disk.)
(v3.2) Improved Media speed patch, forced full speed on all media types!

basically,your gonna have to roll back to 3.0 to get the slow speed all the time. starting with 3.1 full speed was implemented, improved with 3.2, and is default on 3.3. on 3.3 you can insert a retail disc, which will turn on slow/quiet mode for backups. thats why what maxegg said can help at times.

you could just run at slow all the time, or possibly tweak your laser. what seems to be happening is, when some 360's were running at slow, the laser could pick up the disc. at full speed, it had some problems. tweaking the laser can increase the ability of the laser picking up the disc at fullspeed.

ntloser · « **Reply #5 on:** September 17, 2006, 12:46:00 AM »

Hi,

I am having the same problem. I originally flashed with 3.3 then the next day, reflashed to 3.2 after discovering the open tray issue. It seems completely random. One back up will give me an open tray at some point then the next time I pop it in.. it might run. Of course, right after each flash, I tested all my back ups up and they worked fine. Then
I loaded Saints Row original and played it for a couple hours. Then popped in a back up, and got open tray... tried other back ups open tray.. eventually they started reading again. I am at a loss and not sure what to do.

I've noticed on both 3.3 and 3.2, when the open tray error was going to occur there would be a slight beep noise when the back-up was inserted then it wouldnt really try to spin up.

Have you guys confirmed the slower read speed of 3.1 fixes this?

Thanks

This post has been edited by ntloser: Sep 17 2006, 08:01 AM

ntloser · « **Reply #6 on:** September 17, 2006, 01:16:00 AM »

QUOTE(ntloser @ Sep 17 2006, 02:53 AM)

I loaded Saints Row original and played it for a couple hours. Then popped in a back up, and got open tray... tried other back ups open tray.. eventually they started reading again. I am at a loss and not sure what to do.

Thanks

should have read

I loaded Saints Row original and played it for a couple hours. Then popped in a back up, and got open tray... tried other back ups open tray.. eventually they started reading again without having to reboot or anything. I am at a loss and not sure what to do.

firestorm2yk · « **Reply #7 on:** September 17, 2006, 01:40:00 AM »

Same problem as everyone else... sometimes the backups dont read and this is using Verbatim and a Pioneer burner. Perhaps a media compatibility patch is in order for the TS?

ntloser · « **Reply #8 on:** September 17, 2006, 02:46:00 AM »

QUOTE(firestorm2yk @ Sep 17 2006, 03:47 AM)

Same problem as everyone else... sometimes the backups dont read and this is using Verbatim and a Pioneer burner. Perhaps a media compatibility patch is in order for the TS?

Hi Firestorm,

Thanks for the reply. Are you saying that EVERYONE who flashes has this problem? It is freaky. I did the Saits Row thing again. I played for about an hour, then put in a back up of Dead Rising. Open Tray. Waited no more than 5 minutes and put Dead Rising back up into the tray again. It started.

I am using Verbatim DL +R but I burned on a Lite-on ...

firestorm2yk · « **Reply #9 on:** September 17, 2006, 04:36:00 AM »

I dont think everyone is having the same problems or there would be 1000 threads on it. I suspect that part of Microsoft's fight against the firmware mod is to set newer drives to a higher pot which means that basically only originals would read and people wanting to boot backups take the risk of destroying there laser = voided warranty which = more money for Microsoft for repairs if they adjust there pot. I ordered a multimeter off of ebay and will test as soon as i get it and let you know what happens.

However if C4EvA releases a media patch for the samsung (probably not likely as samsungs usually have no problems reading substandard media) i would use that before even touching my dvd-rom with a multimeter.

Just my luck too. First i get an MS28 and now i have a dvd-rom that doesnt read backups OR anything sometimes (90% of the time it's fine?).

Ive been thinking of replacing the laser with a much better quality one but i need to know wether you can just take the laser out of any old dvd-rom (LiteON, Sony, Samsung etc) and replace it. Could you use a laser unit from a dvd-burner? Sorry if it's a stupid question.

ntloser · « **Reply #10 on:** September 17, 2006, 05:34:00 AM »

I found someone else with the open tray problem on xboxhacker.net ... they have the ms25a. Maybe MS25B is the ONE to have.

I am willing to try adjusting the pot too. I want the 360 to work with back ups all the time.

ntloser · « **Reply #11 on:** September 17, 2006, 08:26:00 PM »

Hey firestorm,

What about one of these? http://www.divineo.com/cgi-bin/div-us/zz-360-lens

Its not a better quality but it may be a good back up if you fry the original while adjusting the pot.

This post has been edited by ntloser: Sep 18 2006, 03:33 AM

firestorm2yk · « **Reply #12 on:** September 17, 2006, 08:36:00 PM »

So far no one has stated wether the replacement laser unit from divineo is any better than the one already in the X360. I would purchase that unit only if i absolutely knew 100% that it was better quality then the one in the Xbox 360 and would help with reading discs.

Besides, if indeed you can use any laser from any dvd-rom, then i would pick up a good quality dvd-rom from ebay and use the laser unit out of that and it would cost half as much as what divineo is selling.

I'll try a pot adjustment the next time the problem rears it's ugly head and let you know what it was originally set to, and wether it makes any difference.

ntloser · « **Reply #13 on:** September 17, 2006, 09:40:00 PM »

Use the laser from any dvd rom.. woah.. what is involved in swapping that out? Do you know if commodore 4 eva is aware of this "issue" or if he is planning a media check? Is there anyway to contact him?

ntloser · « **Reply #14 on:** September 17, 2006, 09:57:00 PM »

firestorm,

I was reading some more and found a thread by moda who wrote a pot calibration tutorial. The thread mentions you can't replace the laser on a 360 drive with a regular PC one. He states it must be from another 360 drive. The thread aslo goes on to say the samsung lasers are weak compared to hatachis.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/i...hp/t517961.html

This post has been edited by ntloser: Sep 18 2006, 04:58 AM

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