Topic: Open Tray Error After So Long (Read 382 times)

feekh · « **Reply #90 on:** December 05, 2006, 11:21:00 AM »

So i've got a weird problem..

After some months of playing backups with my hitachi flashed drive (flashed with birdy flasher)
it suddenly stopped!

Was playing test drive and all of a sudden the game stalled..
My xbox has never played a game since. Backups nor originals

So my guess: maybe fw problem.
- Tried to restore fw, succes, but still no games i can play
- Flashed drive again, got the open tray error!

Second guess: fried laser..

- Bought a new laser, installed it, and now i'm trying to get rid of the open tray error!

I can put the drive in B mode with slax boot cd (like i always did).

But i cant flash it! When i open the birdyflasher program it just gives an error like:
"Device isn't ready"

When i turn off the xbox and thereby cutting the power from the drive
the program just loads normally..

So if anyone recognises this problem or has an solution please post your comment!

joemore · « **Reply #91 on:** December 05, 2006, 01:31:00 PM »

Could it be possible that the "open tray problem" could be avoided by useing the "4.2b" firmware? Since slow reading speed is default in the "b" version it may prevent the drive from possible damage/problems. Or is my thought nonsense?
Is there any evidence that people useing slow read speed for their backups get fewer problems regarding the open tray issue?

ntloser · « **Reply #92 on:** December 05, 2006, 01:34:00 PM »

3.3 also has the slow read settings and it still happens on that. If you read through the thread, you will see the problem happens regardless of firmware and for some heat is not a factor.

The dvd drives in the 360 are garbage.

This post has been edited by ntloser: Dec 5 2006, 09:35 PM

PacinoAllstars · « **Reply #93 on:** December 05, 2006, 12:59:00 PM »

QUOTE(joemore @ Dec 5 2006, 09:02 PM)

Could it be possible that the "open tray problem" could be avoided by useing the "4.2b" firmware? Since slow reading speed is default in the "b" version it may prevent the drive from possible damage/problems. Or is my thought nonsense?
Is there any evidence that people useing slow read speed for their backups get fewer problems regarding the open tray issue?

I bought xbox 360 a week ago and flashed it immediatly with extreme firmware 4.2b.

I callibrated my lense because I had open tray errors. Later I still had the same error. Ise used this rubberband thingy and my games seem to start always now.

Waiting for verbatims now (just bought an extra pioneer 1.11D

)

Techno Maniac · « **Reply #94 on:** December 05, 2006, 03:23:00 PM »

well this is what i think from my own expienece...
i think it has something to do with verbatums before u flame me listen
when i first flashed my drive wit xtreme 3.3 i bought some off brand dvd dl(im so sorry i cant remeber the name because they where those cds u no with no name or nothin on the top) but they cost me $40.00 for 15
i never had and open tray ever, i backed up my saints row & nba 2k7 played them for a bout to months no open tray i even upgraded to 4.2a(which ever one the fast readin one is) i never got and open tray. But i kept hearin verbatums where the best so i bought a pack from newegg $33.00 for 20 and i rebacked up my saints row and nba 2k7 i could cold boot both games but if i were playin one and then tried to put the other in after a couple of games(all i had to do to get them workin was keep openin and closing the tray till it cought to finally get it to play or turn off the xbox for about 3 mins and they would work. but one day i decided to see if they old backups would work so i played a game of nba 2k7 wit the verbatum backup
i finished ejected put the saints row in(the verbatum backup)open tray, so then i put my off brand backup of saints row in and it worked flawlessly everytime no matter which game i was playing when the verbatum gave me open error the off brand would start right up

deckameron · « **Reply #95 on:** December 09, 2006, 08:21:00 AM »

Hi mates;

Ive been having problems with my Xbox360 too. All my games are giving me "Dirty disc error".
It only works when my system is opened and well aired. I tried to do Rubberband Mod but it also didnt work.
I dont know what else to do. That Intercooler didnt work either.

The only way to play is when my system is opened and I really dont think it is a good ideia.

BigSteel · « **Reply #96 on:** December 09, 2006, 10:41:00 AM »

Ok, I just flashed a brand new MS28 with 4.2A and got open tray errors right away with my Pioneer 111D burned Verbatim backups. I then tried a Fuji DL and it worked perfectly everytime. Leads me to suspect that perhaps the media may be the issue. I had a mix of discs made with DVD decrypter and CloneCD. The Fujis that all worked used both Clone and Decrypter.

deckameron · « **Reply #97 on:** December 09, 2006, 11:36:00 AM »

Hi friends;

I was having problems with open tray too, but I discovered a solution.

Remove the bottom metal plate of the DVD drive.

When you open the drive to perform a Rubberband, do not put the bottom part of the drive back. Live it with only the upper one.

It worked for me. Now my drive is getting a lot o coooooool air. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
See you

BigSteel · « **Reply #98 on:** December 09, 2006, 11:20:00 AM »

QUOTE(BigSteel @ Dec 9 2006, 06:12 PM)

Ok, I just flashed a brand new MS28 with 4.2A and got open tray errors right away with my Pioneer 111D burned Verbatim backups. I then tried a Fuji DL and it worked perfectly everytime. Leads me to suspect that perhaps the media may be the issue. I had a mix of discs made with DVD decrypter and CloneCD. The Fujis that all worked used both Clone and Decrypter.

Update: I just did the rubberband mod and now all the games that previously would not boot now work

sunnyxwala · « **Reply #99 on:** February 04, 2007, 02:06:00 PM »

first of all sorry for digging up this old thread,
but after reading this thread(the whooole thing), i realized everyone has been very helpful...

ok so here is my problem,
i do not have an open tray error...not yet at least
BUT i DO
have a loud grinding sound when the drive spins upto full speed, i got an open tray error once...

the unit is well ventilated, and i have tried both vertical and horizontal positions.

drive is a ms25 with 4.2a

will the"rubberband mod" fix the grinding sound issue?....
also is this grinding bad for my laser?...is the disk touching the laser??

Malacius · « **Reply #100 on:** February 09, 2007, 03:15:00 PM »

QUOTE

well this is what i think from my own expienece...
i think it has something to do with verbatums before u flame me listen
when i first flashed my drive wit xtreme 3.3 i bought some off brand dvd dl(im so sorry i cant remeber the name because they where those cds u no with no name or nothin on the top) but they cost me $40.00 for 15
i never had and open tray ever, i backed up my saints row & nba 2k7 played them for a bout to months no open tray i even upgraded to 4.2a(which ever one the fast readin one is) i never got and open tray. But i kept hearin verbatums where the best so i bought a pack from newegg $33.00 for 20 and i rebacked up my saints row and nba 2k7 i could cold boot both games but if i were playin one and then tried to put the other in after a couple of games(all i had to do to get them workin was keep openin and closing the tray till it cought to finally get it to play or turn off the xbox for about 3 mins and they would work. but one day i decided to see if they old backups would work so i played a game of nba 2k7 wit the verbatum backup
i finished ejected put the saints row in(the verbatum backup)open tray, so then i put my off brand backup of saints row in and it worked flawlessly everytime no matter which game i was playing when the verbatum gave me open error the off brand would start right up

Well spoken mate, I figured out exactly the same. I also have a Samsung drive (but flashed with 5.3c) and my verbatim games would also cold boot without a problem, but swapping to another game or restarting the game on a verbatim disc would give open tray error. Now im using Memorex dual layers and i dont have any open tray error anymore. Seems like Verbatims arent that good like everyone says.

claypool · « **Reply #101 on:** February 10, 2007, 12:02:00 AM »

same here i switched to crap windata and they have worked better then verb...how long they will last who knows....but for less then a $1 who cares.........

Blietzkreig · « **Reply #102 on:** March 12, 2007, 08:41:00 AM »

I have the EXACT same problem as Feekh: (happened in the EXACT same manner)

QUOTE(feekh @ Dec 5 2006, 05:52 PM)

After some months of playing backups with my hitachi flashed drive (flashed with birdy flasher)
it suddenly stopped!

Was playing test drive and all of a sudden the game stalled..
My xbox has never played a game since. Backups nor originals

I have Hitachi DJ47 with GaryOpa 2.1 firmware. 90% of backups no longer work giving various errors "unrecognised disk", "open tray" etc.
Some originals work, some partly i.e. load and then get dirty disc error, some not all all.

I'm going to try the following:
1. Flash firmware with latest GaryOpa 2.3 (has 2.1 on currently)
2. "Rubberband Mod"
3. Pot Re-Calibration

Failing the above I see no other choice but to get a replacement drive or laser assembly.
Can anyone out there suggest a solution before anything drastic is done ?

cutha · « **Reply #103 on:** April 01, 2007, 11:23:00 PM »

I too am having the problem. However, I have tried the rubberband trick, plus I adjusted the dvd pot from 3.6k to 3.1k with no change.

My 360 is just a little over a year old. It has been modded for about a month now with ZERO problems. I use verbatim d/l disk's burned @ 2.4x. The 360 had been working perfectly and then after my kids were trying to play a game now it always says "Open Tray" no matter if it's a backed up disc or retail.

Any help would be great!

Thanks,
Cutha

QUOTE(Blietzkreig @ Mar 12 2007, 03:12 PM)

I have the EXACT same problem as Feekh: (happened in the EXACT same manner)
I have Hitachi DJ47 with GaryOpa 2.1 firmware. 90% of backups no longer work giving various errors "unrecognised disk", "open tray" etc.
Some originals work, some partly i.e. load and then get dirty disc error, some not all all.

I'm going to try the following:
1. Flash firmware with latest GaryOpa 2.3 (has 2.1 on currently)
2. "Rubberband Mod"
3. Pot Re-Calibration

Failing the above I see no other choice but to get a replacement drive or laser assembly.
Can anyone out there suggest a solution before anything drastic is done ?

idog · « **Reply #104 on:** April 02, 2007, 03:56:00 AM »

QUOTE(cutha @ Apr 2 2007, 06:54 AM)

I too am having the problem. However, I have tried the rubberband trick, plus I adjusted the dvd pot from 3.6k to 3.1k with no change.

My 360 is just a little over a year old. It has been modded for about a month now with ZERO problems. I use verbatim d/l disk's burned @ 2.4x. The 360 had been working perfectly and then after my kids were trying to play a game now it always says "Open Tray" no matter if it's a backed up disc or retail.

Any help would be great!

Thanks,
Cutha

Nope, if you already tried cleaning the lens and done the pot calibration I suspect a new laser is the only solution now. It's not that 'drastic', only costs about 25 euros for a new one and installation is done in no-time (took me about half an hour - and that was including the time I lost searching for a fallen screw :-) )

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