Topic: Open Tray Error After So Long (Read 385 times)

ntloser · « **Reply #45 on:** September 23, 2006, 08:08:00 AM »

No VCC here. I did the bad flash recovery. From what i've read, the open tray issues happen on Samsung MS 25s both a, and b as well as Hatachi.

Mana · « **Reply #46 on:** September 23, 2006, 08:10:00 AM »

bad flash recovery.

man i just flashed my mates hitachi today... sooooooooooo much easier than a ms28

edit: doesnt seem right if the xbox 360 doesnt have problems.... i kinda miss the open tray

edit2: no i dont (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

This post has been edited by Mana: Sep 23 2006, 03:11 PM

firestorm2yk · « **Reply #47 on:** September 23, 2006, 11:39:00 AM »

Well the plot thickens... it seems you may actually be able to swap a normal dvd-rom laser from certain models of pc dvd-rom drives and use it the X360.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=549751

It's a pretty new topic but if true, im much more willing to try this then the pot tweak because if it doesnt work, you can always put the old laser unit back in and it makes more sense that a better quality laser from a good quality pc dvd-rom would work yonks better then the cheaply made-in-taiwan lasers on the X360.

ntloser · « **Reply #48 on:** September 23, 2006, 12:54:00 PM »

That would be cool but it seems like a lot of work. Firestorm, have you tried cooling your xbox? Mana and I have tested and found the open tray error stops happening when the xbox is kept cool.

I got my 360 at work today and wow.. the rear fans hadly pull the air and it is hot only after being on a few minutes. I got my tailsmans today but decided to wait for the thermal paste and do everything at once.

ntloser · « **Reply #49 on:** September 23, 2006, 02:19:00 PM »

Mana · « **Reply #50 on:** September 23, 2006, 06:58:00 PM »

heh now that is some cheesy music

mrjkwik · « **Reply #51 on:** September 23, 2006, 09:52:00 PM »

hard to tell what he is doing. whats the point of the rubber band and all. whats he saying the problem is?

ntloser · « **Reply #52 on:** September 23, 2006, 10:36:00 PM »

This other video should show why.. apparently the drive is confused at where the center of the dvd is when a back up is inserted. The elastic moves the laser away from the inside of the disk and open tray never comes up...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=L33MfiV3ffs

The music is.... just as ...whatever

This post has been edited by ntloser: Sep 24 2006, 05:37 AM

mrjkwik · « **Reply #53 on:** September 23, 2006, 11:43:00 PM »

ok, that makes sense to an extent when it comes to the "pot tweak" i guess. my understanding of the pot tweak is that when you are increasing the power to the laser by tweaking it, it increases the width of the beam. so if the laser is not hitting the correct spot on the disc in its originating state, but by tweaking it you increase the width of the beam, it whould now hit the correct spot. hmm.

though, that doesnt quite explain why you guys who are experimenting with the heat theory are having success simply by cooling the system.

ntloser · « **Reply #54 on:** September 24, 2006, 12:18:00 AM »

Maybe the laser/lens is sensitive to heat and does not perform well/properly when it is too hot and has modified firmware?

Have you taken your case off and put some fans on it? Try it out for a couple days and see what happens. I am curious to see if it solves your issue as well. I know my 360 runs really hot and the stock fans don't do sqaut. Hot hot air seems to seep out of the back with barely any force.

This post has been edited by ntloser: Sep 24 2006, 07:21 AM

mrjkwik · « **Reply #55 on:** September 24, 2006, 12:57:00 AM »

i've already applied the pot tweak and it fixed my problem. and i didnt have to drop mine to a risky level for it to work. but i'm still considering some other options just for the fun of it as well.

ntloser · « **Reply #56 on:** September 24, 2006, 01:18:00 AM »

If changing the fans, cutting out the grill, and removing stock thermal crap then applying Arctic5 doesn't fix it then I am going for the pot tweak or the elastic.

dynt · « **Reply #57 on:** September 24, 2006, 08:09:00 AM »

QUOTE(dynt @ Sep 18 2006, 06:07 PM)

same prob as everyone else but i have pot tweaked to 2.8 ohms i am considering going back to v3 the only thing that seems to work is put an original then go straight to a backup

I put this post up earlier in the thread I doubled checked the ohms and it was 3.29 i must have knocked it putting it back together i have since tweaked it back to 2.82 ohms and it has got rid of the problem'

I also put a post where i swopped the lazer on a hitachi drive with a Samsung PC drive this also got rid of the problem.

On closer inspection of some lazers it seems where the lazer is set in the plastic they are not completely flush some have a couple of thou slant on them so lazer swopping is a good bet.

Both my 360s have 3 fans each 2 90mm pc fans and a extra internal fan so all thou keeping them cooler i am sure is a good thing i dont think its related to this problem.
Also there is a hong kong company with over 99% positive feedback selling lens at $12 or so and drives at $85 with cheap shipping.

The rubber band mod also makes sense and is worth trying but i have yet to give it a go.

JayQue · « **Reply #58 on:** September 24, 2006, 03:45:00 PM »

Rubberband Mod

just do what i did.. i dont see why you should go buy a 20+ dollar fan that isnt 100% to work..

you can find a rubberband anywhere.. its free.. and its easy to install.. takes like 5 minutes with your case together to fully installing the rubberband..

i have some videos on youtube but they are low res cause youtube does that

but ill try to get a high res cam so its not as bad as the ones i have..

its simple.. easy.. and works 100% !

check the pic

have a nice day

OH and also.. its not a "heat issue" i tested the theory of heat by making my drive external and still had open tray errors.. so thats not the problem here , ran a game with my rubberband mod for a few hours and my drive had a chill feel to it as it was external.. i took the rubberband out and it still gave open tray , myth busted

another thing.. explain why originals would boot 100% fine and backups dont at all.. if it was heat no disc would boot.. correct ? exactly..

mrjkwik · « **Reply #59 on:** September 24, 2006, 05:05:00 PM »

just going by what i saw in that pic, a rubber o-ring may work. or a stiff rubber washer. just gotta find ones small enough, and split them. just an idea.

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