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[TheRealPeppers]

you know this mod has been around for quite a wile its commonly used with motherboards that onley have one bios chip as a way of adding a backup its denfinatley nice though

QUOTE(popularme @ May 18 2006, 03:08 AM)

the part number is "SST39SF020A-70-4C-NH" and you can get it here.

the date sheet for it is here [pdf].

lol we dont need 30 of them we need like 5 tops so unless people want to go in with me (witch I would totally do) that link is not very usefull
there may be 5 people that also want 5 if your interested contact me and if I get 5 people ill make it happen that would be $8.17 each + whatever it cost to ship to me+ whatever it cost to ship to you

This post has been edited by TheRealPeppers: May 19 2006, 12:25 AM

[TheRealPeppers]

^edit time ran out out I ment $8.17  per person for 5 chips each + 1/6th what it cost to ship to me + whatever it cost to ship to you

This post has been edited by TheRealPeppers: May 19 2006, 12:36 AM

[cavernimports]

QUOTE(JoBlo69 @ May 18 2006, 12:03 AM)

im sure there is away to run the dual firmware and have live only detect the "original" firmware...

Im wondering if theres away to setup a modchip to check what kind of disk is in the system eather a backup on a dvd-r or if the game is a pressed disc... then the modchip would load the corrosponding firmware...

And i bet theres away to some how setup a modchip to use the hacked firmware for burned games, if and when ms disides to do a live check, have the modchip spit out the official firmware...

just a thought... i didnt think to muck in depth of how the firmware exactly checks the disk for its media type...

its whats known as a "live" firmware (i made the suggestion myself and jumba gave me a practical demo of why it wont work)  every time the drive uses the laser it rechecks the firmware....

dv-r test.....yeah its called the original bios he he

QUOTE(psxpirate1 @ May 18 2006, 01:13 AM)

When MS releases their update IN GAMES, I'd like to know how people will still be able to use copied dvd's whenever they attempt to use hacked firmware. The dash automatically gets a forced update along with the kernel revision so there's no getting around that no matter how many switches of firmware there are. I do hope there IS a way to swap firmwares once security has been checked though.

your completely right.....   im writing an artical about that right now.

QUOTE(Arch0n @ May 18 2006, 06:05 AM)

See my 2nd paragraph below  
This is true. It just saves you from having to solder another flash to one in situ risking damage/old age.

You are basically building an adapter, which you would then apply all instructions in that PDF to, as though you were dealing with 2 PLCCs soldered together. If you're a competent solderer, then you wouldn't bother. In fact you would just bridge the pins with solder rather than dicking round with minute wire strands if you really want to do the quick and nasty  
Also, to those who think this will aid any type of hombrew software ... no.

My thought about DVD fimware modding in general is that M$ likely have a dashboard module or process at boot that checks (or will check after future Live or game updates) for this and flag the console. This means that if you ever boot or enter the dash with the alternate flash, you will be compromised. Therefore the value is in using it for dev work without altering the original flash or admittedly, playing backups if you intend to stay off live and play "safe" games

we used that meathod for the first of the turbodrive-x it sucks arse!  the wire meathod is 100% and actually much faster and easier and more reliable

dual boot is safer....not flawless.

[cavernimports]

QUOTE(Dankbud @ May 18 2006, 09:37 PM)

This is prob a stupid question but here it goes....Is there any other chips that work the same as the "SST39sf040a"?  i work at a pc shop and i got mad bios chips that i popped outa some motherboards but no SST39's...got some SST49LF002a's and some winbond chips...

using alternative chips defeats the purpose.....PURE COMPATIBILITY.... OTHERS MAY OWRK..BUT NOT LIKELY

on a side note...its not out of the question to use a cpld to translate functions...but thats more of a pro mod than a home brew

to the guy who asked about write protect...havent tried it..but i think if you dont link pin 6 (pin 31 on the datasheet for the technicly minded) then it should prevent a write.

tripple boot works... but you do need do some cutting for fitting..... quad boot is a bitch...i havent bothered


New tut arriving tommorow or the next day...just as soon i collect everything... i also have a bombshell to drop...which some people in this thread seem to have already worked out.




something to wet your appetite:


http://www.cbsnews.c...ain513342.shtml

[mrex]

Looks like TS-H943 drives now have a litte suprise...

A nice blob of epoxy on and around the 39sf020a.  Pretty nasty stuff too....

Core system with Manufacture date of 2006-03-09


Should be able to carve or melt it, but still a pain in the a$$.

[cavernimports]

QUOTE(TheRealPeppers @ May 18 2006, 11:38 PM)

you know this mod has been around for quite a wile its commonly used with motherboards that onley have one bios chip as a way of adding a backup its denfinatley nice though
lol we dont need 30 of them we need like 5 tops so unless people want to go in with me (witch I would totally do) that link is not very usefull
there may be 5 people that also want 5 if your interested contact me and if I get 5 people ill make it happen that would be $8.17 each + whatever it cost to ship to me+ whatever it cost to ship to you

your absalutely correct, it was used by jumba about 25 years ago in the "commodore pet"

QUOTE(mrex @ May 19 2006, 04:59 AM)

Looks like TS-H943 drives now have a litte suprise...

A nice blob of epoxy on and around the 39sf020a.  Pretty nasty stuff too....

Core system with Manufacture date of 2006-03-09
Should be able to carve or melt it, but still a pain in the a$$.

yerp.... precicely why the socket aprooch will not work and why the pics in the tut look like shit    Jumba sends his appologies...samsung only started doing that since the turbodrive-x came out. he he


hairdyrer from k-mart $19

kwik unpick from the missus sewing kit free (only if you dont get cought )

bit of emorry for polishing is not bad idea too 50c

[mrex]

So, just to comfirm...

1) In you tut, the 39sf010a was also covered with epoxy (or plastic as your tut states)?
2) You melted/picked it away
3) Then added the 39sf020a

If this is so, just out of curiosity, how long did it take to pick away the plastic/epoxy?

[Perplexer]

QUOTE(cavernimports @ May 19 2006, 03:38 AM)

hairdyrer from k-mart $19
kwik unpick from the missus sewing kit free (only if you dont get cought )
bit of emorry for polishing is not bad idea too 50c

Good times!  Reminds me of the I-Opener hacking days, where the BIOS chip/socket was encased in epoxy.  And like you said, a quick blast with the hairdryer and a dental pick later, good as new  But make sure you get to the epoxy before it REALLY hardens months later...

[cavernimports]

QUOTE(mrex @ May 19 2006, 01:09 PM)

So, just to comfirm...

1) In you tut, the 39sf010a was also covered with epoxy (or plastic as your tut states)?
2) You melted/picked it away
3) Then added the 39sf020a

If this is so, just out of curiosity, how long did it take to pick away the plastic/epoxy?

i think about 20min to do it carefully



sorry, i will be a little late on the revision....tying to make it good and i have to take a few days off

[daghostmon]

I Just wish u nerds and your linix talk would go someplace else. If you want linix then spank on your old xbox1.
That way you can give the $400 dollars to the church and you'll still have linix.

[mathius]

Mine just arrive only
I got it here $20NZD
very fast shipping

http://www.trademe.c...spx?id=57352022

[gehx]

QUOTE(daghostmon @ May 20 2006, 12:47 AM)

I Just wish u nerds and your linix talk would go someplace else. If you want linix then spank on your old xbox1.
That way you can give the $400 dollars to the church and you'll still have linix.

It's Linux not linix.

[cavernimports]

QUOTE(gehx @ May 20 2006, 06:38 AM)

It's Linux not linix.

lol.....nice work

[suprd]

cavernimports,
when you did a tripple are you talking about stacking 39sf020a's or the nonsense that the brazilian was talking about? also what did you have to cut to fit?

[cavernimports]

QUOTE(suprd @ May 24 2006, 06:27 AM)

cavernimports,
when you did a tripple are you talking about stacking 39sf020a's or the nonsense that the brazilian was talking about? also what did you have to cut to fit?

instead of sitting the pins on top you need to cut them or the chips will sit to high, you can only fit a max of 3 chips though, no more or you have to start running insulated longer wires.

ill send some pics with the new tut...