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[javip]

QUOTE(hey69 @ May 15 2006, 03:47 PM)

maybe people dont want their PC up and running 24/h a day to acces their media?
maybe people dont have windows xp mediacenter edition?

maybe =)
but lets face it, anyone here wanting to completely mod their xbox to the extent of having xbmc on it, knows how to get media centre for $0.. and r geeky enough to have decent computers running 24/7
if u want xbmc to access ur media anytime, makes more sense to have it in one location.. than storing it on ur xbox also..............

QUOTE(nwo504 @ May 15 2006, 03:48 PM)

360's media center is crap(to the highest possible level) compared to xbmc

that's not true, if u think so it's because u haven't got media centre setup properly.. or u just haven't used it..
coz i've used both daily

having ONE pc setup with all ur files and then accessing them all through mce .. vs the complications (and having to wait for it to happen!) of running xbmc? ur kidding right?
not to mention that u can't watch tv through xbmc (recorded shows, pausing live tv etc etc)

anyway don't reply people, it's not the right forum, lets talk about firmware hack =)


This post has been edited by javip: May 15 2006, 09:28 AM

[Avenger 2.0]

So I guess we may expect a xbox 360 live update soon  

[Grim187]

You guys are forgetting a major factor Disk Speed it was a major problem with ps2's swap methods for a reasonable price you only get a 2.4x disk (10pcs 8x 8.5gig $30 v. 10pcs 2.4x 8.5gig $17) what are the 360 game disks 16x? your gonna be waiting on load screens forever and on big games like Oblivion it will take really take forever think of all the voice and animation that has to load just to talk to someone it has to stop for a sec on the actual game imagine what it would be like on a 2.4x disk, i dont know maby im just talking out my (|) has anyone tryed a game like Oblivion or Need for Speed?

also

Has anyone actualy played on live with a burnt game?

This post has been edited by Grim187: May 15 2006, 09:44 AM

[PC_Arcade]

You're confusing the WRITE speed of the DVD+R DL with the read speed, there shouldn't be a problem reading them @ 16x

Although they take a while to write to

[LithCoder]

QUOTE(Grim187 @ May 15 2006, 01:05 AM)

You guys are forgetting a major factor Disk Speed it was a major problem with ps2's swap methods for a reasonable price you only get a 2.4x disk what are the 360 game disks 16x? your gonna be waiting on load screens forever and on big games like Oblivion it will take really take forever think of all the voice and animation that has to load just to talk to someone it has to stop for a sec on the actual game imagine what it would be like on a 2.4x disk, i dont know maby im just talking out my (|) has anyone tryed a game like Oblivion or Need for Speed?

also

Has anyone actualy played on live with a burnt game?

Wrong totaly wrong. Please know what your are saying before you say it. Write speed and read speed are 2 different things entirely.

[pSyCo]

You are reading into WRITE SPEEDS ... not read speeds. Read speed == as fast as the drive can read ... I've never seen an exception.

QUOTE(Grim187 @ May 15 2006, 08:05 AM)

You guys are forgetting a major factor Disk Speed it was a major problem with ps2's swap methods for a reasonable price you only get a 2.4x disk what are the 360 game disks 16x? your gonna be waiting on load screens forever and on big games like Oblivion it will take really take forever think of all the voice and animation that has to load just to talk to someone it has to stop for a sec on the actual game imagine what it would be like on a 2.4x disk, i dont know maby im just talking out my (|) has anyone tryed a game like Oblivion or Need for Speed?

also

Has anyone actualy played on live with a burnt game?

[DJ_L3ThAL]

QUOTE(Grim187 @ May 15 2006, 07:05 PM)

You guys are forgetting a major factor Disk Speed it was a major problem with ps2's swap methods for a reasonable price you only get a 2.4x disk what are the 360 game disks 16x? your gonna be waiting on load screens forever and on big games like Oblivion it will take really take forever think of all the voice and animation that has to load just to talk to someone it has to stop for a sec on the actual game imagine what it would be like on a 2.4x disk, i dont know maby im just talking out my (|) has anyone tryed a game like Oblivion or Need for Speed?

also

Has anyone actualy played on live with a burnt game?

correct me if im wrong but the 2.4x rated is the burn speed, the disc can still be read at the readers speed cant it? coz thatd be like saying if u burn at 1x, it will be read at 1x? which is definitely not the case for cd-r and dvd-r, but please do correct me if im wrong im very interested

[SniperKilla]

just burned tomb raider legends... works great..

[DJ_L3ThAL]

lol, sweet that rests me back to my place of rest.... speaking of its time to do such... testing this on the core pack im picking up tomorrow, will post back with my results so as to add to experiences with this firmware night peeps

[garlm]

Damn. Was going to respond to Grim187, but he's already been torn apart in every way appropriate.

Excellent job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ May 15 2006, 08:36 AM)

Don't think for a second that MS haven't already thought of this.

It's not hard for them to security hash a firmware file and store it somewhere on the 360. Lets say it's sitting there on your 360 right now. All MS have to do is store a check program in future game xex files and you'll instantly be stopped from playing them. Forget about Live - you won't even boot it up. Both the hash file and the check program would be stored in signed code, preventing any tampering. Current games will still work but any new titles will be unplayable.

Martin

True, except in order to check the crc of the firmware, they rely on a response from the firmware which is now in "our" control. If you stay a step ahead of the game, and watch out for new titles, Live, etc (until someone can forge a 'valid' response from the drive) this might work out well.

This post has been edited by garlm: May 15 2006, 10:06 AM

[.:Dino:.]

great news and great work commodore4eva, but in terms of progression, i think were looking down the wrong path...unsigned code mmmmm

[DynaMight]

Sounds great, I think I'm going to hold fire and see how the Xbox Live bannings pan out. I'm not actually fussed about using XBL with backed up games but I'd still like to use it for originals.

Hopefully someone will release some kind of 'modchip' that allows switching of the firmware that M$ cannot detect. We'll see.

[geebee]

damn my hitachi...


 ...and kudos to the team for getting this far!

[Drexon]

How common are the Samsung drives? Did they come in a later revision of the console or were they mixed in from the start? What should I be looking for to ensure I get a Samsung drive?

[geebee]

QUOTE(Drexon @ May 15 2006, 10:02 AM)

How common are the Samsung drives? Did they come in a later revision of the console or were they mixed in from the start? What should I be looking for to ensure I get a Samsung drive?

you cannot tell without opening the box and opening the tray!