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[Sniperman]

can anyone point me to the right direction as to where i might be able to aquire these two items?  and help or info would be greatly appreciated.

[PedrosPad]

QUOTE(Sniperman @ Apr 7 2006, 10:26 PM)

can anyone point me to the right direction as to where i might be able to aquire these two items?  and help or info would be greatly appreciated.

Officially it's not been released yet.

The PGR demonstration was a proof-of-concept.  Apparently the hacked firmware used only allowed PGR to play.  The people involved were open and clear that an amount of further development/refinement would be required before it was end-user ready.  The belief is that this work is currently underway.  No knowing how long this will take.  Hints were that any release would need to include a special PC ISO builder to place the security sector within the writeble area of DVD media.

[Joergen]

In other words the hackers left out enough crucial information to secure their own butts so that they could never be sued by MS for unleashing such a monster.

So the people now trying to figure out how to do this based on the lacking information available are WAY off and you shouldnt hold your breath.

If the information really was up there in public forums MS would have taken them down weeks ago. They dont care about partial or inconclusive information. The world is full of theories that offend certain parties but fortunately dont work.

[Sniperman]

haha thanks fellas, buddy of mine said he had a flasher only tofind out after testing it that it was in fact a shitty fake, even so i appreciate the responces, thank you.

[TheSpecialist]

QUOTE(Sniperman @ Apr 8 2006, 01:43 AM)

haha thanks fellas, buddy of mine said he had a flasher only tofind out after testing it that it was in fact a shitty fake, even so i appreciate the responces, thank you.

I've already seen 2 fake 'releases' of a 'hack'. Flashing a fake firmware might result in a dead DVD drive. Some idiots obviously think it's funny to release fakes. My advice therefor is: if someone releases a hack, don't try it yourself immediately; wait till the hack gets acknowledged by respected sites like this. If someone releases a *working* hack, it will be all over the news, you won't miss it

[MrPhunkee]

Apperently there's a guy in Belgium who claims to be part of "the Specialists" team who now mods xbox 360's with the hacked firmware.. For 120€  
Someone got over there from a forum but he couldnt boot the drive in wondows. So he has to desolder and solder back the dvd chip. More news on that later. The guy who went there said there were many tools there that would seem it's for real, pro tools. U think its real, Specialist?

http://psxombouwlimburg.20m.com/

Oops was wrong. He said some hitachi's cant be read under windows or linux.. That u have to solder something on the drive in order it would work. So that means he has a flasher as well  

[MrPhunkee]

Well, i'm waiting the reply from the other guy. I'm not gonna mod mine anyway. Cuz mine just got broken all of the sudden. Waiting 4 replacement so not gonna void 2 year warranty over some backups. I might need the warranty more    I stick on buying games this time

[Joergen]

Sorry Spec I didnt mean to be offensive but thats how I feel about this whole thing. Why is it taking somebody like Xecuter so long to trace the work if all the information is available.

And I sure wouldnt want to be blamed for releasing it and understand any western resident involved not doing so, but there are plenty of folk out there out of MS' reach who dont care and would happily release it if they could, but they have nothing to release. The task is beyond their abilities.

Its like HD Loader again.. some talented scene members do ALL the research and hard work and only then some schmoe in china can steal it all and sell pressed discs for 30 bucks, using a boot method also discovered by the scene prior.

[TheSpecialist]

QUOTE(Joergen @ Apr 9 2006, 01:15 AM)

Why is it taking somebody like Xecuter so long to trace the work if all the information is available.

Well, I can think of three reasons:

1. The hack we did, was merely a 'proof of concept'. In its current form it is VERY easy to detect and 'defeat' by MS with a kernel patch. So maybe they want to create a hack that is a bit more difficult to detect and this will take quite some work. Why ? Because now they have to do the research themselves There is simply no info availabe on 'optimizing the hack', since nobody did research for it. And research costs time ...
2. The hack needs a very specific ISO, with all security data in it. It is WAY too complicated for somebody who is not into hacking, to rip all needed security data and create such an ISO manually. So I'm guessing they want to release a tool that creates such an ISO for you. This too is quite some work.
3. They said they wanted to release a software flasher for the drive. While this certainly is not THAT hard to code, it will cost them some work (again, no research is available here)

So basically, if you want to release a software flashable hack, that is usable by the 'general public' and not very easy to detect by MS, then this will mean a lot of work. I think you should realize too that TX is NOT going to make a lot of money here. They can't sell the hack itself (since I wouldn't be surprised that 1 day after release it will be downloadable on xbins) and they wont' sell much hardware either. I mean, come on, why would anybody buy a 'power converter' from them when you can just use the power source from the 360 ? Why would anybody use a SATA/PATA converter, while there is now a way to get your drive detected in Linux/windows without a converter ?

So, they're NOT going to make a lot of money here and it IS quite some work (to 'optimize' the hack and write tools for it). So it is also very well possible that it hasn't that much priority for them ... They run a business and obviously their goal is to make money. So, to be honest, I was quite a bit surprised that they stated that they wanted to release a hack in the first place ...

[MacDennis]

QUOTE(Joergen @ Apr 9 2006, 01:15 AM)

Sorry Spec I didnt mean to be offensive but thats how I feel about this whole thing. Why is it taking somebody like Xecuter so long to trace the work if all the information is available.

Everybody seems to forget that teamxecuter isn't the group which is doing the hack.

QUOTE(Joergen @ Apr 9 2006, 01:15 AM)

And I sure wouldnt want to be blamed for releasing it and understand any western resident involved not doing so, but there are plenty of folk out there out of MS' reach who dont care and would happily release it if they could, but they have nothing to release. The task is beyond their abilities.

And your point is?

QUOTE(Joergen @ Apr 9 2006, 01:15 AM)

Its like HD Loader again.. some talented scene members do ALL the research and hard work and only then some schmoe in china can steal it all and sell pressed discs for 30 bucks, using a boot method also discovered by the scene prior.

I couldn't care less if someone 'steals' information from a public forum. If teamexecuter releases the firmware and the software flasher then everyone can do it. Then there's no need to steal anything.

[MrPhunkee]

FYI, Bilzen is at Limburg, Belgium  
There's a Limburg in Belgium aswell  

[krayzie]

Yeah and if it was holland why would there be a +32 country code instead of +31?

[mandrake001]

seems an other trick to make money of it is needed ? perhaps saying soon , soon now ..!  ?
gets a raw 80.000 hits a day for peeps to see if it is there all ready ? if so dont expect anything soon expect more banners soon as site is already under construction.....

[Hajaz]

if i'd have had a hitachi drive i mightve contacted him. im in limburg alot for my job


the guy's spelling sucks though.

[krayzie]

The guy also claims that it will play raw dumps without further patching.