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[Gr1Ff1N]

Now we have discovered (in some way or another,heh) that the kiosk disc had no encryption or whatever. My understanding of this is that we can burn this ISO and it will play fine on 360. Now using the code from the kiosk disc, surely we could replicate it and rplace the data thats on it (i.e. the demos). I appologise for this as im sure that many of u have thought the same and more than likely some1 has tried this? If so, what happened and if not am i now the town dumbass?    Just a thought, my knowledge only covers the original Xbox but hope 2 become an expert on 360 asap   .

Thanks guys
Griffin

[BCfosheezy]

QUOTE(Gr1Ff1N @ Jan 2 2006, 12:17 PM)

Now we have discovered (in some way or another,heh) that the kiosk disc had no encryption or whatever. My understanding of this is that we can burn this ISO and it will play fine on 360. Now using the code from the kiosk disc, surely we could replicate it and rplace the data thats on it (i.e. the demos). I appologise for this as im sure that many of u have thought the same and more than likely some1 has tried this? If so, what happened and if not am i now the town dumbass?    Just a thought, my knowledge only covers the original Xbox but hope 2 become an expert on 360 asap   .

Thanks guys
Griffin

I don't mean any offense but everything you said was wrong.
#1 the kiosk disc does have encryption. This is why no one can edit any executables. The reason the disc can be burned and run is because it doesn't have the media flag set to only allow the executable to run from a pressed dvd-9. That's the ONLY thing that is different with the kiosk disc and there is no security breach because of it.

You can't replace the demo games with a retail game as the retail game would fail the media check and consequently not run. The only things that have been able to be replaced are the wmv's and flash animations.

You're not the town dumbass but your knowledge doesn't "cover" the original xbox because these media checks were also done on it. This is nothing new and nothing special so far.

[Gr1Ff1N]

QUOTE(BCfosheezy @ Jan 2 2006, 08:33 PM)

I don't mean any offense but everything you said was wrong.
#1 the kiosk disc does have encryption. This is why no one can edit any executables. The reason the disc can be burned and run is because it doesn't have the media flag set to only allow the executable to run from a pressed dvd-9. That's the ONLY thing that is different with the kiosk disc and there is no security breach because of it.

You can't replace the demo games with a retail game as the retail game would fail the media check and consequently not run. The only things that have been able to be replaced are the wmv's and flash animations.

You're not the town dumbass but your knowledge doesn't "cover" the original xbox because these media checks were also done on it. This is nothing new and nothing special so far.

I see...lol. Well apparently i need 2 read up on my stuff, although thanks BC i learned some from that last post of urs. I have heard of the media checks b4 but it was my understanding that they are a lot stricter.

I also saw a post about replicating one of the discs and how an exact binary copy would fail the media check, how is this so, how does the media check pickup a backup when its an exact replica.

Thanks
Griff

[bowser22]

because there is a pre-recorded track on every dvd-r identifying that it is a recordable dvd

[uMaNzOr]

QUOTE(bowser22 @ Jan 2 2006, 01:37 PM)

because there is a pre-recorded track on every dvd-r identifying that it is a recordable dvd

But you can also change the book type in some dvds (dvd-r to dvd-rom)

[tgm4883]

QUOTE(uMaNzOr @ Jan 14 2006, 11:48 PM)

But you can also change the book type in some dvds (dvd-r to dvd-rom)

This is true, but the prerecorded track tells much more information than just dvd-rom.  It has a specific media code that tells what brand of media it is.  The media code for xbox 360 retail games is something like XBOX360RETAIL

[jameswalter]

QUOTE(uMaNzOr @ Jan 14 2006, 11:48 PM)

But you can also change the book type in some dvds (dvd-r to dvd-rom)

Stick a DVD-R in your DVD-ROM and boot up DVDInfoPro....look at the MediaCode....There is data on the disc before it is burned....media type is different than book type.