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[illicitx]

I got homemade flash files booting, check it out

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=474658

[Ne0]

Anyone ever think that maybe the mediaflags weren't a mistake? Maybe all demos are like this, so you can distribute demos yourself. Maybe M$ is confident enough in their security to do this. Makes sense...

[chuxterofdoom]

QUOTE(Ne0 @ Dec 28 2005, 01:40 AM)

Anyone ever think that maybe the mediaflags weren't a mistake? Maybe all demos are like this, so you can distribute demos yourself. Maybe M$ is confident enough in their security to do this. Makes sense...

Thought about this also.  I don't think this disc was meant for that but if they let you download updates and install them via burned cds then why not let us download demos and try them out via burned cds also.  One thing I haven't tried but will in a little bit is burning the demos on the disc on a cdr by themselves to see if they boot without having to go thru the kiosk launcher.

[chuxterofdoom]

another thing i figured out.  If you open the gamedb.ini file in the (en-en folder) and remove all the semicolon's  ";" on the left side of the page then it will enable the rest of the videos that are on the disc. which are quite a few.  Most are old videos already seen before but nice to look at in hidef!  

[chuxterofdoom]

ok just tried it and the demos will work if you just burn them by themselves to a cd-r.  Just tried cod2 demo all the way thru and worked perfectly.  I sure it is the same for kameo and king kong demo as well as the hexic demo which is intriguing.  Here are the sizes for the demos


Call of Duty 2: 319mb

Kameo:463mb

King Kong:784mb

Hexic:67.7mb

Running flash games using hexic would be great as soon as it gets figured out.

heres to blundersofts mistake....everyone have some  

[Guerrilla]

Im not really into flash, but isnt it possible to do more with flash then just animations? cant you make some kind of flashbased webbrowser with it?(maybe something like this? http://www.softaward.com/5264.html) or maybe even a flashbased media player?

dont know if this is possible in any way but just wondering...

[Wormz]

Another idea to throw out there:

Do we now have two demos of the same game, identical except for the media flag, and in turn, the signature?

Could comparing these two shed any light on how the authentication works or where the media flag is?

[LuridSpectre]

Has anyone tried decompiling the Hexic swf?  Could we learn anything valuable from doing that?

[goboom225]

QUOTE(Wormz @ Dec 28 2005, 09:48 AM)

Another idea to throw out there:

Do we now have two demos of the same game, identical except for the media flag, and in turn, the signature?

Could comparing these two shed any light on how the authentication works or where the media flag is?

the exact kameo demo was avalible on the OXM disc... i have it and have played both.. hmm

[HyperG]

The only different demo would have to be king kong because the OXM disc didn't have an exe file it just had a default.xex and a kingkong.xex (exact file name is just off the top of my head, just an example , default.xex was like a 60 something kb file that linked to the other xex file). If the exe file is just a xex with wrong extension , some file comparing should be done to see if there are differences between the media file.

[LuridSpectre]

QUOTE(GileS @ Dec 28 2005, 04:10 AM)

I tried decompiling the hexic swf and didnt find anything useful. Everything seemed to be directly related to the game. Maybe others could verify this.

I will as soon as I can.  I'll probably do it tomorrow morning.

[Ketterai]

Someone ought to check and see if FlashVNC can be substituted for one
of the .swf files on this demo disc. It does require Flash v8.5, so this might give an indication of what version of Macromedia Flash was licensed by MS for the Xbox 360.

http://www.darronsch...ives/000192.cfm

[naoneo]

My findings :
You can delete all folders except /en-en/, /images/ and /items/, hex kioskmain.xzp to change "Play demo" to "Play game", also within kioskmain, searching through hex the secnd png is actually the xbox 360 logo shown when the software boots (fun!).
Reguardless of what media its burned to it will boot, cd-r, dvd-r etc, it doesn't matter.
In /en-en/gamedb.ini one can setup and configure the paths and parameters for the demo games, additionally you can set certain flags, such as consoletype, demo path etc.

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; ConsoleTypeFlags possible values:
; 0=Xbox 360
; 1=Xbox 1
; 2=Xbox 1 and 360 (though backward compatibility)

In setting up my own game entry and transfering the files from a retail (and compatible game), for xbox 1 to the disk, with the paramter set to consoletypeflags=2, the menu still boots however when you attemp to launch the disk, you are given the error "Cannot play this game", if you attempt the same, with a game that is not yet compatible, you receive an 'incompatible' error.

Additionally, attempting to launch retail games from either the demo dir or the base dir of the dvd-r, (via changing the demopath= value to game:\gamename.xex), results in the xbox throwing out a "Check disk region and clean the disk then try again" style error.
the menu's contents can be completely changed via /en-en/kiosk.ini and /en-en/gamedb.ini providing you have the patience, personally i deleted the entires for all the games, and all the other content, deleted their images and added one item under game, with my own files and this worked fine.

Hexic is infact a flash game, with wma audio, the flash player (xex) would seem to map the xbox controller buttons to common inputs like A, as even mouse rollover still works.

Any attempt to replace the flash with flash files of different width/height and missing a certain segment of code, fails and the xbox freeses while trying to load.

[vydex]

This is all intersting news, but excuse me for being paranoid and thinking the rest of you are pretty naive, but has anyone actually considered the possibility that this was a lets say "deliberate" mistake by ms.

Could it not be argued that with the release of this disk and people from all over seeing it go to thinking "omg 360 is on its way to being hacked, i think i will go buy one" And also consider that big brother on the 360 is watching those who are playing the disk while signed into xbox live. Now dont get me wrong here im sure the more astute of you have unpluged your network cables from the back of your 360?? Am i right in thinking this??.

But I think you get my point, I can see Allard and Gates over a beer in bar somewhere saying
"Hey Bill lets throw some fish at the hackers and see what they make of it!And oh yeah see if they come up with any more interesting homebrew apps we can steal for ourselves to make more profit he he"

Im sorry if I seem to be the pessimist here but this does seem a little too good to be true, im not debating the fact that the disk works from what I have read so far its pretty plain to see that it does, however when things are or seem to be too good to be true they often end up being something completely insanitory.

[zandy1]

Would it be a good idea to create a new profile not linked to xbox live and be signed in with your new profile when using this disc. You could disconnect the network cable and delete the new profile afterwards which would pretty much make the use of this disc invisible would it not? This way at least the kiosk demo disc wouldn't show up in your main xbox live gamer profile. Or is removing the HDD and disconnecting the network cable good enough, I don't really see how it the use of this disc can show up in your profile if you disconnect the HDD and network cable surely?