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[Joergen]

So somebody verify if the demos are actually playable or not.

[DickE]

QUOTE(Joergen @ Dec 27 2005, 10:06 PM)

So somebody verify if the demos are actually playable or not.

Yes they are perfectly playable  

You should even be able to rip the game demos off the disc, and place each one on a individual DVD-R and still run them fine.

What I'm waiting for is the first person to successfully change a WMV HD file to another non xbox one, to see if that works, as it should do in theory, unless the WMV are somehow signed .

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DickE

[Moleman]

Yeah, J Allard must be pimp-slapping some bitches now.

[tubesock]

Works fine on NTSC/USA retail 360's.

[jamie123]

QUOTE(UberJim @ Dec 27 2005, 11:24 PM)

Seems to be PAL, does this boot fine on an NTSC set up?

i noticed that, and i'm wondering the same question

i'm also wondering, since these work perfectlyh, isn't this a big step to getting any kind of homebrew to run?  becuase correct me if i'm wrong, but this means that the xbox 360 can run files that aren'ts ecured, so if we build the our programs like these ones on the disk, using the same file structure and all that, wouldn't it run in theory?

[Swede_Hac]

QUOTE(jamie123 @ Dec 27 2005, 11:33 PM)

i noticed that, and i'm wondering the same question

i'm also wondering, since these work perfectlyh, isn't this a big step to getting any kind of homebrew to run?  becuase correct me if i'm wrong, but this means that the xbox 360 can run files that aren'ts ecured, so if we build the our programs like these ones on the disk, using the same file structure and all that, wouldn't it run in theory?

Im sorry Jamie or whatever your name is... This have been said about 10 times in this thread, They are signed they just doesnt have any mediaflag set. That means that you could copy the files etc withouth loosing the signature. But if you change the content of the XEX it will lose its signature and the white box wont run it. Its just like the emulator upgrade you can download from xbox.com

[cja100]

QUOTE(jamie123 @ Dec 27 2005, 10:33 PM)

i noticed that, and i'm wondering the same question

i'm also wondering, since these work perfectlyh, isn't this a big step to getting any kind of homebrew to run?  becuase correct me if i'm wrong, but this means that the xbox 360 can run files that aren'ts ecured, so if we build the our programs like these ones on the disk, using the same file structure and all that, wouldn't it run in theory?

the xex files ARE Signed (secured) but the media check (flag) in the secured files is not set to dvd-rom. it is set to something else but im not sure what as i dont have this disc. it could be set to allow it to be run on anything (dvd-r,hard drive or off your mums behind).

A XBOX 360 CANNOT RUN UNISIGNED (UNSECURED) CODE (XEX/XBE FILES)!!!!!!!
only devkits and modded boxes can.

i think PI means the xex files dont check the other files

[Oner]

I hope a team will step up and put some time into this as it could be the next "Dreamcast", not as in success (or failure that is) but as in bootable discs (or similar utils etc.). I wonder how the chip makers will feel about this and what their future plans could be?.... Either way it is cool news and will really put some fire/speed in the 360 scene.

[Swede_Hac]

QUOTE(Crackmonger @ Dec 27 2005, 11:44 PM)

Why did they say this then?

But it wouldnt run if it werent signed... They have to talk about signed with the mediacheck....

[MaTiAz]

Some people seem to misunderstand that PI statement. The datafiles aren't signed, but the executables are. Executable is not data (well it's one form of data if we think about it as raw, but the 360 uses it as executable, not data).

[neejoh]

I can confirm its working. All the demo's are working and all the movies are playing fine. I noticed when the disc starts up the dvd drive swaps a lot with the laser.
It just booted up nicely in my xbox360, a nice demo disc. Sadly the topspin 2 demo isn't on it.

[ZildjianKX]

Excuse me if I'm being dumb... but this is my understanding thus far...

The demo disc was backed up, the xex files are signed, and the data files are not signed.  There media flag is different on the demo disc's xex files than those of games.

So... aren't the xex files of the backed up games signed as well?  Is it just the media flag keeping the backed up games from running, or do the xex files somehow become unsigned from how they are backed up (so how was the demo backed up then?).

[jamie123]

QUOTE(Swede_Hac @ Dec 27 2005, 11:39 PM)

Im sorry Jamie or whatever your name is... This have been said about 10 times in this thread, They are signed they just doesnt have any mediaflag set. That means that you could copy the files etc withouth loosing the signature. But if you change the content of the XEX it will lose its signature and the white box wont run it. Its just like the emulator upgrade you can download from xbox.com

ok, so the mediacheck isn't set to dvd, how does this further help us in running homebrew on the 360 then? becuase from what i'm reading, this won't help at all, or will it???

[Zenofex]

Sorry if yall have answered this before but what are the files that end in .xexp1 ? also i wonder what testxex.xex is

[MaTiAz]

QUOTE(ZildjianKX @ Dec 28 2005, 01:10 AM)

Excuse me if I'm being dumb... but this is my understanding thus far...

The demo disc was backed up, the xex files are signed, and the data files are not signed.  There media flag is different on the demo disc's xex files than those of games.

So... aren't the xex files of the backed up games signed as well?  Is it just the media flag keeping the backed up games from running, or do the xex files somehow become unsigned from how they are backed up (so how was the demo backed up then?).

Yep, it's the media flag. And if we change it, the signature breaks.
So if the XEX says "I'm only allowed to run from pressed Xbox disks", the 360 checks if the XEX is on a pressed Xbox disk, if it's not, it just coldly says "You're not on a pressed disk, go away".