Topic: 360 Iso's (Read 1371 times)

shadow77 · « **Reply #45 on:** December 16, 2005, 08:33:00 AM »

QUOTE

Maybe you should check before replying with stupid comments... the sizes you have quoted are the compressed sizes.. try extracting the rars and check the iso size...

all the iso's are 7.02gb

That's because of garbage data.

For example, the Gamecube, all dumps are the same size if you leave the garbage data in.

This post has been edited by shadow77: Dec 16 2005, 04:35 PM

Vegita · « **Reply #46 on:** December 16, 2005, 10:58:00 AM »

QUOTE(Deathman @ Dec 15 2005, 12:14 PM)

Maybe you should check before replying with stupid comments... the sizes you have quoted are the compressed sizes.. try extracting the rars and check the iso size...
all the iso's are 7.02gb

good god have you never burnt isos before and noticed they were all the same size?

and do be a little more careful before you call someone stupid, you just end up looking stupid yourself.

crosseye · « **Reply #47 on:** December 16, 2005, 11:25:00 AM »

seriously people, this is getting rediculous. First about how the games are dumped, then questioning it. Then about the iso deal, and also questioning that. DO NOT come to a TECHNICAL forum and continue questioning what has been told to you as truth. These are the facts, if you don't understand them, SEARCH. If you want to ask that is not a problem. I do not mind informing people, but when they keep questioning the way something works after it has been said in thread after thread, it gets old.

s0ftm0d · « **Reply #48 on:** December 16, 2005, 04:27:00 PM »

Seriously crosseye, you need to chill out. There is nothing wrong with some people asking a few questions, esp when the thread was a question to begin with. You are NOT the holy dvd dump king, so stop trying to defend this whole thing. You sit there and bitch about why noone knows how they did it, but oh yes you know i forgot, i did not read 12312 posts that you know. So if your so proud of it, why not tell them and they will stop asking.

/end of rant

TheSpecialist · « **Reply #49 on:** December 16, 2005, 04:40:00 PM »

QUOTE(s0ftm0d @ Dec 16 2005, 11:58 PM)

Seriously crosseye, you need to chill out. There is nothing wrong with some people asking a few questions, esp when the thread was a question to begin with. You are NOT the holy dvd dump king, so stop trying to defend this whole thing. You sit there and bitch about why noone knows how they did it, but oh yes you know i forgot, i did not read 12312 posts that you know. So if your so proud of it, why not tell them and they will stop asking.

/end of rant

I totally agree with crosseye. I explain how it works, Tiros even posts this link: http://www.free60.org/wiki/DVD
and still ppl keep asking how it's been done... Just close this thread ...

crosseye · « **Reply #50 on:** December 16, 2005, 06:50:00 PM »

QUOTE(s0ftm0d @ Dec 16 2005, 04:58 PM)

Seriously crosseye, you need to chill out. There is nothing wrong with some people asking a few questions, esp when the thread was a question to begin with. You are NOT the holy dvd dump king, so stop trying to defend this whole thing. You sit there and bitch about why noone knows how they did it, but oh yes you know i forgot, i did not read 12312 posts that you know. So if your so proud of it, why not tell them and they will stop asking.

/end of rant

you're missing it s0ftm0d. I DID tell them..Several times. Then, they chose to say it was wrong. Someone even pointed to the free60 site wich reaffirmed what I had told them several times. However, they STILL ignored and kept saying it was not correct. In multiple threads this has been discussed and beat to death. The way it is done has been said several times, yet people still persist. My point was I had already told them several times and they continued on. My point was simply, when someone comes in a thread and asks how something is done, don't CONTINUALLY question or say that's probably not the way or, they "might" have done it this way. It was done a specific way and people were told.

1nick9 · « **Reply #51 on:** December 16, 2005, 09:46:00 PM »

ok time to put an end to this bitching.
the games r ripped with a standed pc drive with custom firmware and an nice exe on the pc.
basicly, the has 2 areas on the disc, each has its own toc, put the disc in anything other than an 360 and it will read the 1st 1 which is nothing more than a dvd. put it in ur 360 and it nos wat sectors to look at for the game data and the true toc. now to rip the games on ur pc u need to change ur drives idea of end of disc, done with custom firmware, then the nice lil exe is run to dump the complete disc from the 2nd toc, every single sector and all, this is why there is so much garbage data.

now this wont b extactly how its done but its basics of it, more than likely they use linux and not windows. but im keepin this simple as away for pplz that dont get it to get the picture.

hell they might even make a dummy disc with a toc same to the 360 and swap it it without ejecting the drive so the drive is look at the right sectors.

cheers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

This post has been edited by 1nick9: Dec 17 2005, 05:51 AM

Monoxboogie · « **Reply #52 on:** December 16, 2005, 09:52:00 PM »

QUOTE(1nick9 @ Dec 17 2005, 05:17 AM)

ok time to put an end to this bitching.
the games r ripped with a standed pc drive with custom firmware and an nice exe on the pc.
basicly, the has 2 areas on the disc, each has its own toc, put the disc in anything other than an 360 and it will read the 1st 1 which is nothing more than a dvd. put it in ur 360 and it nos wat sectors to look at for the game data and the true toc. now to rip the games on ur pc u need to change ur drives idea of end of disc, done with custom firmware, then the nice lil exe is run to dump the complete disc from the 2nd toc, every single sector and all, this is why there is so much garbage data.

now this wont b extactly how its done but its basics of it, more than likely they use linux and not windows. but im keepin this simple as away for pplz that dont get it to get the picture.

hell they might even make a dummy disc with a toc same to the 360 and swap it it without ejecting the drive so the drive is look at the right sectors.

cheers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

After the third person explains it, maybe they'll get it....

...great. Now we'll have a few thousand threads of "where can I get the custom firmware for my HP SuperDVD XYZ4000?"

scotty2hotty1124 · « **Reply #53 on:** December 16, 2005, 09:56:00 PM »

i think this is a good question...and i havent seen it asked here yet...since SOME people (not me) know how to use a dvd-rom drive to read the 360 discs in the computer....couldnt they use the same type of firmware on a dvd-rw drive and burn it onto a blank dvd?? would that make a difference seeing as it would now be in the correct "sector" of the disc?

1nick9 · « **Reply #54 on:** December 16, 2005, 09:29:00 PM »

QUOTE

i think this is a good question...and i havent seen it asked here yet...since SOME people (not me) know how to use a dvd-rom drive to read the 360 discs in the computer....couldnt they use the same type of firmware on a dvd-rw drive and burn it onto a blank dvd?? would that make a difference seeing as it would now be in the correct "sector" of the disc?

dont really see wat ur gettin at here, the firmware wont make a differents to the way a disc is burnt, all it does is make it so it will read pasted the end of disc, looks at the whole disc and not just wat the toc says, so to speak.

cheers

Monoxboogie · « **Reply #55 on:** December 16, 2005, 10:31:00 PM »

QUOTE(scotty2hotty1124 @ Dec 17 2005, 05:27 AM)

i think this is a good question...and i havent seen it asked here yet...since SOME people (not me) know how to use a dvd-rom drive to read the 360 discs in the computer....couldnt they use the same type of firmware on a dvd-rw drive and burn it onto a blank dvd?? would that make a difference seeing as it would now be in the correct "sector" of the disc?

Pointless. Once its been ripped, a conventional DVD-RW drive with manufacturer firmware has the capability of burning the raw image to a blank. Just because you lack the necessary tools to do it with doesn't make it impossible. I <3 growisofs.

SPECULATION:

Just for shits and giggles, what happens if you take an image and pop it into an Xbox 1. That is to say, obtain one of the PI dumps, burn it to a DVD, and pop it in the Xbox. I know it wouldn't execute; being of different endianness and of different assembly...but would tools like dvd2xbox read it? Would they perhaps uncover anything that current tools are missing? Just a science project. Not expecting huge results. Anybody want to waste a DVD trying this?

NO MORE SPECULATION.

jameswalter · « **Reply #56 on:** December 17, 2005, 12:13:00 AM »

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?sho...4&#entry3120914

Normal PC DVD drive, normal firmware...just a little DVD swap. Tried it myself....works great.

puregraffix.com · « **Reply #57 on:** December 17, 2005, 12:51:00 PM »

I have been out of the irc scene for quit some time, what channel is the best for xbox 360 discussion and information. I know xbins are still up and running strong. Not to piss anyone off i think 75% of the people here including myself are just waiting for the a late breakthrough on the 360 console. And they are not contributing although I have tried putting the 360 hard drive on the pc and then running Xbox Hard Drive Maker from the xbins and did not succed in browsing the files, although it picked saw the xbox partition it could not read the partition.

Tiros · « **Reply #58 on:** December 18, 2005, 11:16:00 AM »

QUOTE(TheSpecialist @ Dec 16 2005, 11:11 PM)

I totally agree with crosseye. I explain how it works, Tiros even posts this link: http://www.free60.org/wiki/DVD
and still ppl keep asking how it's been done... Just close this thread ...

First you and I speculate, Then Heinrich replies: "no & no".
Even after I post that link, and question Heinrich why he says no&no, he comes back with "try it and see"...

He can't just say yea that it's correct?

I think that those "in the know" enjoy this kind of discussion because it gives them a chance to display thier obviously superior knowledge and connections. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Obviously if the information required to do something as simple as this is known only to "insiders" and can't be revealed to the masses, this entire technical section is nothing more than a showplace for egomaniacs to show off what inside information they are privy to, but not reveal it.

BTW:
Good luck with the new no "pure speculation" rules being imposed here.
Might as well just shut the board down!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)

heinrich · « **Reply #59 on:** December 18, 2005, 11:35:00 AM »

Because the posts allude that all dvd drives, and firmwares will allow you to do this. PI used a specific drive, with a specific firmware. There is allows more than 1 way around a problem however. If it is as simple as you claim, then where are the released tools to do just that?

Pure speculation:
"lets put a xbox dvd drive in a pc, maybe it will read a game"
not pure speculation:
"i put a xbox dvd drive in a pc, and this is what happened"

Pure speculation:
"omg there is a lpc port, lets install an xecuter3"
not pure speculation:
"This is the pin out of the lpc port, this is where the lad lines lead to, etc"

See the difference? Feel free to PM me or post in the comments forum if you have concerns about any rules or guidelines, posting such things in a random thread is not the proper way to go about it.

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