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[Bender_Unit_1]

This was about the last emulator I expected from you xport, since you usually don't remake emulators that work well enough. But I can understand why, the original author had basically no incentive to add in VMM, and probably never would have. And he reallyl had no excuse not to if he was to continue the project, unless he didn't know how to code it. Of course, VMM has been already coded for it, so integrating the code can't be all that hard. Though I can't code more than tic tac toe, so who am I to talk.
Anyways, new core, lightgun suport, and VMM are all very positive additions! I honestly didn't seee this coming, and I am very happy to check back here and see the good news!
Thanks a billion Xport, you always impress me and the scene with your hard work. It shows in all your emulators.
Can't wait to snag this one!

-Bender

[billforsale]

I completely agree with splattered can you please do a older version with VM because this version SUCKS donkey balls and wont run anything.

[feflicker]

We understand that there are not any "game optimizations" occuring right now, as you are basically working from the 0.84 MAME core and adding VMM in an effort to simply "get the game to load". How it plays after i loads is not really the "focus" right now...

To the nay-sayers: Future core changes, and perhaps VMM optimizations might help some of your games run faster in the future. And after Xport feels comfortable with where VMM is, maybe he will start looking into game-specific optimizations (if you can keep a positive attitude)  

[debeautar]

I'm so glad I'm a fan of the classics, for which I do not consider MK to be a part of.

All I need are Gyruss, Rush N Attack, GUNSmoke and Ms Pac Man to run, and I've emulated my old pizza parlor from when I was four.

Beyond that is dessert. :-D

Great update, Xport.

[Retroplay]

Hmm everytime I try and load Splatterhouse the box freezes.
Tried enable/disable VMM.. nothing it completely locks up.
Anybody else have the same problem?
The files are verified for Mame 0.84 with Clrmame.

[splattered]

Do what? You expect xport to go in and optimize games.. per game once the vmm is sorted out? there are like 4 thousand games. I would never expect him to do something like that, hell i wouldnt expect ANYONE to do that. I really do think the best solution would be to integrate VMM into an older core so that all the games run great. Thats the only realistic solution. The xbox has like a 700mhz p3, and thats all its ever going to have. So we have to be realistic about where to cut off future support. Why solder a northstar system onto a bicycle when its really meant for 60k bmws n such? haha thats my point.. yeah ok so you might get tekken 3 running at %25 speed, but so what? Thats not even playable. nor is %50. And anyone that is willing to sit and play a game in that state, has problems or waaaaay too much time on their hands. If you guys want to be able to play all the NEWER arcade games, youre just going to have to do it on your pc, there is absolutely NO other way. I still say integrate VMM into .71 or something *shrug*

[Retroplay]

Oh well I can play it on my PC.. great work btw Xport  
Another thing is I can't get Outrunners to work if I change the controls.
The accelerator and breaks are mapped to the L/R trigger as default but if I change that to the right stick nothing happens.
It's no big deal though it works perfect with the default control config.

[EvilNight]

My mame roms are all 0.84.

Xport, your emulators are works of art; they go way beyond most programming, and you've got above average interface design skills to boot which is a real rarity these days. Hat's off to you. I'll be happy to help you test 0.84 any day.

[sammaza]

the next thing we need to do is find the best vmm settings for each game and make updated vmm.txt files for the whole community....so i dont know what the best way to go about this is.  Any ideas?

[feflicker]

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Do what? You expect xport to go in and optimize games.. per game once the vmm is sorted out? there are like 4 thousand games. I would never expect him to do something like that, hell i wouldnt expect ANYONE to do that.

You sort of missed my point, although I could have been more specific  

I was saying that he may at least *look into* some of the games that are running slow, in order to try and locate any system-wide issues (memory leaks, tweaks, etc) just to see if there is anything that *could* be done. If you are familiar with Xport's work, you would know that he is very good at debugging and optimizing code to get the most horsepower out of the Xbox  

Of course no one is expecting him or anyone else to look into the entire MAME set and try and optimize each game! But a game here and there might be possible, especially since there are really only like 20-30 games that run slow that the majority of the community would like to see better. Even if that happened most people would be happy... It certainly will NEVER happen if people are negative about the release and VMM implementation.

I am just saying I would rather see the project move forward (working on improvements/new cores), not backward by working on an old core (just because *right now* it runs some games faster)... That is my opinion.

If at some point Xport and Noodle decide that it is *impossible* to go any further due to hardware limitations, and the only solution is to revert to an old core and "cutoff support", then we can certainly live with it. But let's not make those decisions for them, since they obviously know more about what can/cannot be done than any of us  

[Mephiska]

well just to make things clear, xport said before that he didnt plan on making regular updates to mameox, he just wanted to help fix lightgun support, add vm and update to the .84 core to "help recreate interest" in the project. *which he has done all he said he would in this release.

thanks xport!

[jizzlobber]

yeah if you want a game to run a little better just try tinkering with the settings as Xport instructed... asking others is just lazy.

we should post any useful information too (settings), XS is a community, we have guys like xport putting in a lot of work for us... we should help out too.

[sammaza]

OUTRUNNERS!!!! working perfect with minor sound glitch...now this is 1 fun game!!!!

[feflicker]

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well just to make things clear, xport said before that he didnt plan on making regular updates to mameox, he just wanted to help fix lightgun support, add vm and update to the .84 core to "help recreate interest" in the project. *which he has done all he said he would in this release.

Very true, well said  

Hopefully he will get interested by the interest too, and stick around helping in the wake of this release  

[Juganawt]

I'm REALLY happy with this new release, as I'm sure everyone in the community is.

There is a slight niggle though... it's not a major issue, but it would be great if you could store different options for each game, rather then dropping to the menu and manually changing configuration to optimise each game.

Apart from that really minor niggle, I'm extremely happy with your work. Keep it up buddy!