Topic: I'm Gonna Try To Bust The Container Encryption (Read 446 times)

troist · « **Reply #30 on:** December 09, 2006, 04:04:00 PM »

theres a brief description of the encryption here:

http://wiki.free60.o...icFileContainer

which makes it look like no ones gonna be hacking it for a while...

the only way i could think of doing it is tricking a game to sign the files you want as gamesaves, but how you could manage that is unknown to me...

krawhitham · « **Reply #31 on:** December 09, 2006, 04:11:00 PM »

QUOTE(peetyboy2006 @ Nov 27 2006, 01:58 AM)

LMAO i love it!!!

you are going to brute force the 2048bit encryption key??? The one that would take thousands of years to crack using the most advanced supercomputers on the planet???

So if you had thousands of computers working on it, it would only take a year?

just asking

No_Name · « **Reply #32 on:** December 10, 2006, 12:14:00 AM »

The encryption is designed to hold up toa brute force attack.

Have you any idea how big a 2048 bit prime number is and now many prime numbers there are they would have to check??
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Your still looking at longer to break even with millions of computers attacking it to be cracked while it would be useful.

Its militry grade encryption that should tell you everything

filsee · « **Reply #33 on:** December 12, 2006, 06:02:00 AM »

I think it is a great idea and should be rewarded as such.
He started out with a wonderful plan, and all people have done is put him down.
We are all working towards the same goal, let's work together.

It may be a little far fetched to think that a key such as that could be cracked so easily, but remember that brute force is not about finding and trying every possibility, it is only about finding and trying them until you find the one that works.

It could very well be the first guess.
Then you would have to figure out what to do with the rest of your trillion years.

Anything I can do to help, I will.

ndjumpball · « **Reply #34 on:** December 13, 2006, 02:04:00 PM »

can an admin please ban ElmoBro23 already with his links to viruses! this is the second time i've seen him post a bogus idea with a link to a virus.

DMAddict · « **Reply #35 on:** December 13, 2006, 03:44:00 PM »

QUOTE(ndjumpball @ Dec 13 2006, 01:11 PM)

can an admin please ban ElmoBro23 already with his links to viruses! this is the second time i've seen him post a bogus idea with a link to a virus.

Elmo Bitch has been reported. After trawling I saw that every post he made was to the virus.

jameswalter · « **Reply #36 on:** December 14, 2006, 10:44:00 AM »

QUOTE(Infamousx241 @ Dec 6 2006, 10:02 PM)

Although jameswalter is a total cunt who pulls more things out of his ass than a porn star, it is fairly unreasonable to think you could crack a 2048 bit RSA key.

*holds back on flaming the living fuck out of jameswalter for being a pretentious cunt*

WTF did I ever do to you? Everything I say is 100% true. Do the math...and you will see that is is quite impossible. If you understand what it takes to bruteforce a private encryption key, you will also understand that cracking a 2048-bit key is highly improbable at this point in time. Many people asked this question with the original xbox, which also used a 2048 bit key. It has been proven time and time again that it is next to impossible....so try actually backing up your flaming with some facts, instead of just assuming I am wrong.

jameswalter · « **Reply #37 on:** December 18, 2006, 05:01:00 PM »

QUOTE(scorpion_glitch @ Dec 15 2006, 02:38 PM)

how about what seti's (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/) doing and have a screen saver that runs during ideal time. Sure their MIGHT not be any life in outerspace, but there IS an Encryption for the 360. The odds of finding it may be the same as flipping a quarter 2048 times and getting heads every time but what the hell lets give it a try in fact we don't even have to try if it's a screen saver that runs when the computer isn't doing anything.
I for one would throw 2048 quarters as much as I can until I get all heads.
(2048 quarters = 512 dollars)<-- enough for another 360

Doesn't matter. Even for the xbox1 they had a distributed program you could run, even on the xbox itself. There is just not enough computing power right now to do it.

....and it's more like guessing a 0 or 1, 2048 times and getting all of the right....not likely to happen, because if just one is off, it is wrong. Look up the RSA factoring that has been done, they are working on 512 and 640 bit keys....and that even takes awhile. Think about how long it takes to do a 512 bit key...I said before it was like 30 computers for 5 months or something. A 513 bit key will take twice as long, and a 514 bit key will take twice as long as that....and so on. A 2048 bit key will take 7x10^144 (thats a 7 with 144 zeros, look at my previous entry on the 1st page) times as long as the 512 bit key....keep telling me you think its possible.

sentinel0 · « **Reply #38 on:** December 18, 2006, 06:24:00 PM »

Do the container files use the same encryption that the rest of the system uses? Different files use different encryption algorithms. If I'm wrong please correct me.

FrEaKsHoW12390 · « **Reply #39 on:** December 18, 2006, 07:35:00 PM »

if it does, and he does break the container encryption then we have hacked the 360

Millenia1x · « **Reply #40 on:** December 18, 2006, 09:04:00 PM »

i wonder how lng it would take to crack the key using the ps3 system that activates when your connected to the net and not using the ps3(Folding@home)
i heard that it was operational now and is usually connected with over 1,000 ps3's normally networked at any time
and 10,000 gets them a floating point 1,000,000,000,000,000
maybe we can write a program to do the same thing with our computers

actually one exists already
we should be able to but

aww fuck it

this is near imposible

Havok · « **Reply #41 on:** December 19, 2006, 05:14:00 PM »

You guys are waaaay off. You know the secuirty banks use?? IF any of you could break a 2048 bit key... you'd be rich. Who the hell cares about homebrew, you would be a trillionaire.

vax11780 · « **Reply #42 on:** December 20, 2006, 10:12:00 AM »

QUOTE(kalle_19 @ Dec 20 2006, 02:22 AM)

Some scientist broke AES512 under 1 sec.

AES512 hasn't been broken. The researchers use a power analysis method to extract the key from a "secure" cryptographic processor.

It is possible a similar technique could be used to extract the cryptographic keys from the CPU once we are able to run homebrew software, but what the researchers accomplished gets us no closer to running homebrew software. Further, with three cores running, it is going to be extremely difficult to use it to extract keys from the 360 CPU. Probably easier to find them by probing the die.

VAX

peke · « **Reply #43 on:** December 21, 2006, 06:25:00 AM »

QUOTE(Millenia1x @ Dec 19 2006, 05:11 AM)

this is near imposible

It maybe is but why don't try it, the ods are really small that we get them but if we would find it well that just would be awsome i gues. I would sertenly try it out if someone wrights a program for it

srry about my bad inglish I have spelling problems

zviper · « **Reply #44 on:** December 25, 2006, 12:05:00 PM »

that is impossible with anything we can see in the future. it too my computer 4 months to brute force a file that was encrypted with this password hF5D8~!82* i could use my computer the time i had to use a laptop.

the file contained nothing in the end..

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