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[scuba156]

QUOTE(modrobert @ Mar 27 2010, 07:14 AM)

If my vague suspicions are correct, that would be like asking someone to click on a virus infected .exe.

Heres one with a jpeg version for all the paranoid ones out there (the original .tiff was never invalid and works just fine)

Jtag Saver 1.0 with jpeg

Maybe you should look at the credits in the .nfo before spouting this as a virus...

[kphlight]

I modified the xbox1crew design and ordered PCBs and components to manufacture JTAG Savers.  We are expecting to ship on April 9th.  

Because there is a lot of speculation about the need for these, I'm not going to try and scare people and tell them their JTAG system is doomed unless they buy this.  My JTAG Xenon has worked since the beginning and still works, JTAG Saver or not.  My Falcon ran XBR since it was released and then stopped booting with anything but the stock NAND.  I don't know if it's related but for a few bucks, it would have been worth it to know for sure if the extra wiring killed it.  Buy one of these, build your own, or don't; not my Xbox  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Link is http://www.360usbspi.com

This post has been edited by kphlight: Mar 27 2010, 03:26 AM

[modrobert]

QUOTE(scuba156 @ Mar 26 2010, 10:15 PM)

Heres one with a jpeg version for all the paranoid ones out there (the original .tiff was never invalid and works just fine)

Jtag Saver 1.0 with jpeg

Maybe you should look at the credits in the .nfo before spouting this as a virus...

Thanks.

Dopus, gimp, "Windows Picture and Fax Viewer", and several other programs with TIFF support I've tried fails. That lead to the conclusion; either the image is invalid (maybe even has exploit) or Adobe invented a new standard with the extension .tif  (considering their bloated and extremely slow programs it wouldn't surprise me).

BTW: I recommend using a picture format with lossless compression like PNG for diagrams, so you don't lose quality but still maintain small file size.

[numlockhome]

never heard of this problem, done quite a few jtag:s myself and NEVER had a problem with anyone of them.

this sounds like a bunch of BS to me, and now people are gonna sell this crap?

if you have problems with your jtagging its probably due to user error, some people just shouldnt deal with electronics in the first place. ive seen too many butchered motherboards and other stuff in my days, trust me.

[ewok666]

QUOTE(numlockhome @ Mar 27 2010, 02:52 PM)

never heard of this problem, done quite a few jtag:s myself and NEVER had a problem with anyone of them.

this sounds like a bunch of BS to me, and now people are gonna sell this crap?

if you have problems with your jtagging its probably due to user error, some people just shouldnt deal with electronics in the first place. ive seen too many butchered motherboards and other stuff in my days, trust me.

I've had a Falcon die shortly after the Jpeg. It initially booted fine but then started to hang occasionally. A few days later it began to show graphics corruption and then died. It was doen with two diodes and a wire. The replacement Jasper I bought has two diodes and a resistor.

I took the Falcon board out of the case to solder from the bottom and then started the Xbox while it was still outside the case although just for about 20 seconds. I actually think that the board warming up outside the case caused it to warp slightly producing the RROD but who knows. A reflow in Australia costs $100 and I wasn't about to throw that kind of money away when I could get a brand new jasper for just $50 more (with a spare power brick, controller and BenQ drive)!

[Haygar]

QUOTE(ewok666 @ Mar 29 2010, 02:50 PM)

I've had a Falcon die shortly after the Jpeg.

You're.......surely.......joking, right ?!
It died from a picture, lol ?

But seriously, I noticed some differences with a Falcon I was working on in regards to the resistor versus just the jumper and I'm gonna add a 330R to mine asap. Haven't had any issues with my Jasper but the Falcon has occasional ROL errors on startup and clock resets usually too.
Not saying it will help but it never had clock probs B4 jtag, so it seems like a small bug somewhere.

This post has been edited by Haygar: Mar 29 2010, 12:35 PM

[wang_chung]

i jtag'd my jasper 16mb, and noticed one time last week i turned it on and nothing, just a black screen. then i turned it off and back on again and it RROD'd..........but i only used the diodes and a straight piece of jumper wire. maybe there is some validity to this jtag saver, but for now i guess i'll install that resistor this weekend

This post has been edited by wang_chung: Mar 31 2010, 04:17 AM

[Pacotera]

QUOTE(crimpshrine @ Mar 26 2010, 03:54 AM)

From new thread on Xboxhacker, this specific post is from Blackaddr:  
http://www.xboxhacke...06388#msg106388

Even after this people are still considering wasting time with this

[HoRnEyDvL]

QUOTE(Pacotera @ Apr 1 2010, 04:20 PM)

Even after this people are still considering wasting time with this

If its such a waste of time why has team Xecuter inplemented something similar in there design???

This below is from Team Xecuter.
* Option to disable JTAG completely. We have basically added an "OFF" switch for those that need to disable the JTAG hack for whatever reason (testing, debugging, returning to stock etc). This of course saves you the time from having to desolder anything.
* This is the cleanest and most solid JTAG install you will find. No need for any circuits to disable the JTAG after so many seconds - no messy installs or bad parts causing RROD's.

Haha yeah but u need 2 reopen your case every time u wanna turn it off or back on.

Thats what makes our design much better imho.

[Aldanga]

QUOTE(HoRnEyDvL @ Apr 2 2010, 11:15 PM)

If its such a waste of time why has team Xecuter inplemented something similar in there design???
*snip*

Team Xecuter has been known to jump on anything that will make them money, even if it is ridiculous. Just because they make their own product or version of a product does not mean the product is legitimate.

[raburton]

QUOTE(HoRnEyDvL @ Apr 3 2010, 04:15 AM)

If its such a waste of time why has team Xecuter inplemented something similar in there design???

They, haven't! Seriously, can you not read? It says the exact opposite "No need for any circuits to disable the JTAG after so many seconds", and then they blame "messy installs or bad parts" for any RRODs.

Unless of course you are confusing the fact that they put in a general off switch, which is there to allow the mod to be disabled without desoldering, the purpose of which is also clearly explained in the text you quoted.

[kickinazz]

QUOTE(Haygar @ Mar 29 2010, 06:32 AM)

You're.......surely.......joking, right ?!
It died from a picture, lol ?

But seriously, I noticed some differences with a Falcon I was working on in regards to the resistor versus just the jumper and I'm gonna add a 330R to mine asap. Haven't had any issues with my Jasper but the Falcon has occasional ROL errors on startup and clock resets usually too.
Not saying it will help but it never had clock probs B4 jtag, so it seems like a small bug somewhere.

I have a Falcon I bought brand new about 4 months ago after my jtagged xenon died. Lately the ROL has been doing weird shit. One red light and still functional, all 4 lights staying on and 360 functional. As of late, when I turn it off, the 360 completely powers off but the ROL stays on and the controller stays on. Then I have to pull the plug to kill the lights. Now, when this happens I get E79(no ROL at all, all lights off). I have to unplug the 360 and the USB HDD. Replug in both and E79 goes away. Each time this happens I have to go through the system setup again.

[thethinker360]

QUOTE

Team Xecuter has been known to jump on anything that will make them money, even if it is ridiculous. Just because they make their own product or version of a product does not mean the product is legitimate.

its crap

[BladeWing]

Even after all this time, i still havent fully understood htis !!! WILL THE JTAG WIRES DAMAGE MY XBOX ?? I'm using (I think this is it anyway) 2 resistors and a wire on a xenon.

Would it be safe for me to boot with the jtag wires, then use a switch to break the connections manually. If doing this, would i have to do all 3 connections, or just the 2 with resistors.

[Haygar]

Apparently there is nothing to be concerned about, depends on how paranoid you are, but it's not like you can go out and just grab a new jtag-able box off the shelf now!

In your case with the xenon you will have either the original 3 resistor setup or 2 diodes. If you still have the resistors I would change that. There is some good info/links in this thread.
Also, I think it is possible to manually switch out the jtag links once the dash is up and running, just don't let anything short out.