Topic: Solderless Modchips (Read 89 times)

thecrunked · « **on:** May 06, 2009, 07:56:00 PM »

Hey, new to 360 modding and have some questions
(not a total newb, i have successfully soft modded an original xbox and a wii)
Sorry if its a repost but I used search and could not find specific info

I have ended up with an extra 360 console which I believe is a toshiba-samsung and i am thinking of modding it. I have read guides for doing the mod without a chip, but it looks like its too much work and maintenance.

anyway, i am not good with a solder but am interested in a good quality chip that will allow me to run backups easily on my 360.

could you guys please give me info on solder-less mod chips that would be good for what i am trying to do

thanks

dgeneral · « **Reply #1 on:** May 06, 2009, 08:03:00 PM »

Im guessing you obviously have not read any of the tutorials on this site or any of the stickies, as if you did, you would have noticed that the route to go to mod your 360 would be to flash the DVD drive with ixtreme firmware versus a mod chip.

There should be several guides and tutorials on this site that should help you in your quest to flash your drive, but if you cant find what you need, a quick google search should. Basically what you need to know is what brand and version your dvd drive is so that you can flash with the correct version of ixtreme 1.51 or higher firmware.

Xplaya397 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:20:00 AM »

You must undrestand, though, that going with a modchip is a very good option in regards to safety from being banned from Xbox LIVE. Flashing your DVD drive with the iXtreme firmware is more risky than a modchip, because eventually MS will catch you with a hacked firmware, whereas a chip doesn't touch the firmware at all and leaves it completely original and intact.

And I back my statement with a fact. You are only allowed to play original games on Xbox LIVE; its an automatic ban in you play using one of your backups. With that said, the only people who have ever gotten banned from LIVE were either those with a hacked firmware or those who were caught using backups online, which again is against the rules and illegal. No one with a modchip has ever gotten banned, so long as only original games were played online. I am living proof of this myself, having started with a Xeno-360 a little over 2 years ago, and recently upgrading to the NMEv2.0, all the while my Xbox LIVE account remains fine. Now, had I gone the route of flashing my firmware years ago, I have no doubt that by now I would have joined the list of banned Xbox LIVE consoles.

Xplaya397 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 07, 2009, 04:32:00 AM »

Anyway, lucky for you, the Samsung drive is ridiculously easy to install an NMEv2.0 on. Only 4 wires! And the solder points are a decent size, enough for a novice to accomplish easily. Seriously, check here for the image of the install.

Use the alternate points, even easier! Xacto knife those two points slightly, pre-tin with solder, and its a breeze to solder, and the other two points are large and don't even require additional solder.

Arbiter34 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:22:00 PM »

Okay, I honestly logged in for the first time in what I believe is over a year just to correct such an ignorant post. Xplaya, what you state is incorrect. Hacked firmwares are not the reason for receiving an XBL ban, as is stated many times over from key figures in the 360 modding community. Microsoft cannnot detect modified firmware for the same reason that it was difficult for us to initially read the firmware, they built in blocks to prohibit us from doing exactly what we have achieved with firmware hacks. As well, no one has been banned for playing truly stealth backups, as backups that have been done properly as per current instructions are impossible to detect. At current time, the safest option is to flash your dvd drive with the newest iXtreme firmware and procure your backups via the guides that are available for making your own backups. If you believe this to be beyond your skill level, then so too is the NME 2.0, or any other chip solution.

Alcoholx · « **Reply #5 on:** May 08, 2009, 03:06:00 AM »

QUOTE(Xplaya397 @ May 7 2009, 10:12 AM)

You must undrestand, though, that going with a modchip is a very good option in regards to safety from being banned from Xbox LIVE. Flashing your DVD drive with the iXtreme firmware is more risky than a modchip, because eventually MS will catch you with a hacked firmware, whereas a chip doesn't touch the firmware at all and leaves it completely original and intact.

And I back my statement with a fact. You are only allowed to play original games on Xbox LIVE; its an automatic ban in you play using one of your backups. With that said, the only people who have ever gotten banned from LIVE were either those with a hacked firmware or those who were caught using backups online, which again is against the rules and illegal. No one with a modchip has ever gotten banned, so long as only original games were played online. I am living proof of this myself, having started with a Xeno-360 a little over 2 years ago, and recently upgrading to the NMEv2.0, all the while my Xbox LIVE account remains fine. Now, had I gone the route of flashing my firmware years ago, I have no doubt that by now I would have joined the list of banned Xbox LIVE consoles.

Absolute nonsense.. flash your drive or pay somebody to flash it for you when the 1.6 firmware arrives and you will be fine, ALL modding solutions carry the risk of a ban, and have been banned at some point..
The firmware modding has come on a long way since it came out, and has become the most secure way to mod.. but your never 100% safe.., you pay your money and make your choice... but a chip is a waste of money imho.

To answer the original posters question, i do not believe that there is a solderless mod chip for the 360, and tbh.. solderless chips are unreliable at times, if your not good with a soldering iron or a pc.. then pay somebody to flash your drive.. itl be about the same price of a chip and its cheaper than a new 360 when you kill it

thecrunked · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2009, 10:36:00 AM »

thanks for the info guys, its been very helpful

i think i might go the route of ixtreme firmware flash.

as i stated before i have an extra 360 console, i would just use the hacked one to play backups of games that i don't plan on playing online with.

for instance, on my main console i would play halo 3, but on the hacked firmware i would use backups of other games that arn't renown for their multiplayer aspects

the only other question i have is does it matter what version my xbox is upgraded to (i.e. is nxe ok to use)

fightclub · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2009, 09:36:00 PM »

you state the reason people are banned is because they arent playing a truly stealth game on live... thats prolly true... and so the reason i like the nme 2.0 is because if you want to play a backed up game, you have the option to disable the internet connection which keeps you from getting on the internet... i play all my originals on live and all my backups offline... this makes it IMPOSSIBLE (or so ive come to conclude from reading the forums but i could be wrong) for them to detect the backup...

Arbiter34 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2009, 04:24:00 AM »

fightclub, unfortunately that line of thinking is incorrect, as all such data related to playing back ups and security checks that the 360 performs are stored offline and those checks are done no matter if you are on live or not.

fightclub · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2009, 10:29:00 AM »

where is that data stored?

scuba156 · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2009, 01:09:00 AM »

the data is stored in the nand.

technically, a physical chip is easier to detect than firmware. firmware is locked, and cannot be read without putting the drive in mode b (which the console cannot do at all), but a chip is physical and has a current running through it, that extra current can be quite easy to detect with the right commands even with the chip 'turned off'

fightclub · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2009, 06:44:00 PM »

QUOTE(scuba156 @ May 11 2009, 01:01 AM)

the data is stored in the nand.

technically, a physical chip is easier to detect than firmware. firmware is locked, and cannot be read without putting the drive in mode b (which the console cannot do at all), but a chip is physical and has a current running through it, that extra current can be quite easy to detect with the right commands even with the chip 'turned off'

what could read that current difference? wouldnt that need to be a physical piece of hardware; kinda like a multimeter... and if the chip is off, how can you read current going through a chip if the chip isnt on... sorry if these are dumb ?'s but that whole reading the extra load being drawn from the chip sounds like a sham if there isnt any piece of hardware that can do that...

danthaman673 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 07, 2009, 11:51:00 PM »

I've been playing my Halo3 and Cod5 backups online all day every day for almost a year on ixtreme 1.6 and 1.51 before that. Ixtreme 1.6 simply prevents you from being able to run a detectable backup. I'm now looking into a modchip to allow me to do (other) hacks eg reigon modding, internal chassis i.d (i forget the correct name for the number, the one you need to replace if you get console banned.. just in case MS start detecting jitter etc..)

If anyone could give me advice on what chip(s) i will need (I'm a ninja when it comes to solder but that's why I want to do as little as possible) as I find it hard to believe there can be a solderless chip (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

Brgds

This post has been edited by danthaman673: Sep 8 2009, 06:52 AM

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