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Juganawt

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Spectrum Emu, Will We Ever See One?
« on: February 08, 2004, 05:44:00 AM »

Well, my Xbox is pretty nicely filled up with emulation bits and pieces, which is not only nice for gaming, but is also useful for taking screenshots in natural resolutions, and being able to write reviews fairly for each game for the Tosec.org site...

But I'm missing an integral couple of emulators which would REALLY be appreciated if someone could port them.

Most notable is the lack of ANY running ZX Spectrum emulators.
Please, I'm begging you guys that are talented programmers to make my YEAR and port a speccy emu to the big black box. There are dozens of open source emus out there to base your code upon, and ZX Spectrum has a HUGE fanbase, which is far too big to ignore on such an emulation friendly system.

It's getting to the point where I'm willing to PAY someone to write an emu for me, or for someone to teach me programming so I can make my own.


Also while you're at it, a BBC Micro and a port of Project Tempest would be fantastic too, but Speccy's the most important by far  :D .

Thanks for reading my babble.

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Carcharius

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2004, 10:13:00 AM »

Just so you know - one does exist! I have an early version here and Manic Miner was the first speccy game played on an xbox spectrum emulator! ;) (closely followed by Treasure Island Dizzy)

I'm not talking about my work on MESS. It is a completely different project and it isn't one of mine. I was just helping getting it running.

As it's not my work I'm not at liberty to release anything - just wanted to let folks know that it exists.

I'm not sure what the current status is - the author has been away from the scene for a little while.

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Tanas

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« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2004, 01:05:00 PM »

I've been waiting for a spectrum emulator without any look :(
But if your a fan of the Ultimate games, such as Knighlore, Alien 8, and others, you cant go far wrong with FMSXBox, they are vertually identical to the Speccy versions.

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Dahak

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2004, 08:27:00 PM »

ZXAdvance and Foon (two excellent Spectrum emulators for GBA) also run under Xboyadvance. I've played a few games of Cauldron 2 with ZXA on the xbox.

@Carcharius - Is it Dragonz's port? Also, just how is MESS coming along? That's my most looked forward to Xbox port. :)  <
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Juganawt

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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2004, 09:27:00 PM »

I know about Dreamspec, the emu that only runs Manic Miner without sound... but unfortunately the guy who made it (Big Boy if I recall) hasn't worked on it in about a year, so in my opinion the project is dead. A couple of months ago there were rumours that one was going to be released in a matter of weeks, but nothing appeared, so again I assume that the project is dead. It's such a shame really.

Cacharius, any chance of you writing one? AFAIK you were the guy who wrote Xenesis, so how about making us all happy and porting a speccy emu over, or show me how to program (I have all the kit, just no clue of how to write software) so I can make one?  <
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Carcharius

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2004, 12:31:00 AM »

Juganawt - I think you misunderstood me.

When I said that Manic Miner was the first game played on an xbox Spectrum emulator I wasn't referring to DreamSpec!

Note - I said 'played' not 'running'. It was fully playable - with input and sound (which DreamSpec doesn't have) and the emu plays a large number of games.

The project you're referring to isn't 'dead' - as far as I know it's just on hold. It is an eary version of that project that I helped get working (hence being the first to play a spectrum game on an xbox spectrum emulator)

I have looked several times into porting a Spectrum emu, unfortunately I haven't yet found one with source that I was happy to work with. As you say there are lots of Spectrum emulators and quite a few are open source. The problem is none of the ones that are open source are windows/c++/directx based. There are a few written in Delphi, ASM, and at least 1 in VB. There are some written in c++ but using external libraries such as Allegro, which would mean having to port Allegro as well.


Dahak,

Bad news I'm afraid - the MESS project has kinda stalled. I haven't had the time to work on it for a while now and I've lost a lot of motivation for that particular project.

When I have had time to spare I've found myself working on other things instead of MESS (including tinkering with new things in Xenesis and work on another emulatio project).

I'm not gonna say that I'm giving up on it altogether - I may well end up getting back to it at some point. But like I say I am lacking motivation for that one and am unsure how useful it would actually be to run MESS on an xbox.

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2004, 01:25:00 AM »

It's not /that/ hard to get UAE-x running a half decent speccy emulator.  I really do want a dedicated Xbox one, but for the interim, the Amiga handles it pretty well.

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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2004, 03:02:00 AM »

We need to see a CoCo emulator for the xbox!!!! Well, I need to see one :)  That's the only other emulator i can think of that is not out there that i want so badly, that's the only one left for me to snag.  <
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2004, 03:46:00 AM »

Well it is a pitty that no speccy or Amstrad CPC emulators are available for the xbox.

The only work around I have found, is to play them using the gameboy advance emulator.It is not perfect but it is something.

I had not success in running a speccy emulator either via uaex or via psx emulator.

I hope that dragonz will deliver the one that promised.

Xport could try as well!!(hopefully)  <
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2004, 05:14:00 AM »

I wish the people making the emulators weren't so lazy...too bad slackers run the coding world.

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Dahak

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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2004, 08:06:00 AM »

QUOTE (Carcharius @ Feb 11 2004, 11:25 AM)
Bad news I'm afraid - the MESS project has kinda stalled. I haven't had the time to work on it for a while now and I've lost a lot of motivation for that particular project.

When I have had time to spare I've found myself working on other things instead of MESS (including tinkering with new things in Xenesis and work on another emulatio project).

I'm not gonna say that I'm giving up on it altogether - I may well end up getting back to it at some point. But like I say I am lacking motivation for that one and am unsure how useful it would actually be to run MESS on an xbox.

Thanks for replying. I understand there comes a point where something turns into work rather than play (especially where MESS comes into things.... but that's another story).

I wouldn't underestimate how useful it would be to run MESS on an Xbox though (other than perhaps asking how useful is it to run any game or archaic software in general, of course). Just off the top of my head, MESS runs Vectrex, Atari 7800, Astrocade, TI-99/4a and CoCo software. None are emulated on the Xbox, and probably otherwise wouldn't be.

It's your call though, and FWIW, I appreciate the time you already put in looking into it.
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