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[DSM93]

I installed the nme 1.1 but for some reason the backups I'm making aren't working. I used the NME associator program so convert the image into an NME compatible image but that didn't work. Extracted the SS with associator and SS merger, both have the same MD5 that matches the MD5 SS in the image. Injected the SS with associator but that didn't work. Tried injecting it with SS Merger but that didn't work either. I used SS Merger's create NME compatible image feature but that too didn't work either. The nme SS MD5 doesn't match the MD5 of the SS that's already in the image, but I'm not sure if it's supposed to match since it's in a different part in the image.

To burn the image I tried CloneCD using the .dvd file to set the break point and sectors. I also tried ImgBurn and manualy set the break point. When I place the disc in my pc drive and use the verify section in ImgBurn, all the values are correct.

Once I put the disc into my 360 though, I get the "Please place this disc in an XBox 360" message.

All the posts and sites I've read have said it's the SS that isn't being injected in the correct location or that the layer break is incorrect. I've tried several ways to inject the SS. I've verified the book type (DVD+R DL), layer break and image size in imgburn, and it all comes up correct but the game still isn't booting. Thought it might be my install so I re-installed the chip. Triple checked the connections and everything looks fine, but still it's a no go.

Anyone have an idea on why the hell the game isn't booting?

Using NEC 3450A with liggydee 1.04 bitsetting firmware, to burn images.

[DSM93]

I just found my multi meter and these are the numbers that I got.

Drive: Point 1: 1.80V
          Point 2: 1.77V
          Points 5&6: 4.95V

On Chip: Point 1: 1.87V
              Point 2: 1.84V
              Points 5&6: 4.93V

I'm not sure why the voltage is different when measuring the points directly on the drive compared to on the chip, I'm hoping somone will have some ideas to get this thing working.

[serialkilla]

what is your method, and what program did you use to dump the game?  ill guess you are  using a sammy drive flashed w/kreon ...this is all you need  ...Schtrom 3.1  get it from team-underdog  site .......put the game in...go to the drop down bar..click on extract ss.bin ...it takes about 2 seconds  ..then go back to the drop down bar  and click on 3.0 stealth..that dumps the game...when its done click on nme associator  click on load iso and its the 7.05 gb file..then click ..ss  and use the ss.bin you extracted...click on create...and your done........oh, and then burn it with ImgBurn

[uopercival]

DSM93, I am having the same problem you are with my 1.2, the voltages you measured are pretty much what I got with mine as well. Too bad there isn't a good way to check if the chip actually works. They should include some type of backup demo so that at least we can test the chip.
Anyway, please let me know if you figure anything out.

[DSM93]

I'm actually using wxripper to dump the games.
I tried a different game but I'm having the same problems. I extract the SS, load it and the ISO into assosiator and inject the ss. I even used the auto conversion in merger and associator and I'm still getting the same error.

uopercival: I found a guide that said pin 11 for the 1.1 can be hooked up to the main power led, and if the chip is activated the led will shut off. Unfortunately I lost the guide since I found it while at work lol, I'll try to find it again and see if this status feature really works. It's not documented on teamunder dogs site so I'm a bit skeptical of it really working. It sure would save me a headache if I knew which was messed up. The backups or the damn chip.

Also, I'm wondering if there really is a different if I used clonecd with a .dvd file to burn the image instead of Imgburn, and are the md5's for the iso SS and the nme SS supposed to be different?

This post has been edited by DSM93: Mar 14 2007, 05:07 AM

[ydgmms]

Try this:

What game are you trying to backup?
How are you trying to back the game up?
What program are you using?

Do you have the Samsung something something drive with Kreon .81 in it?

The NME Associator is the last thing you do before burning the disc.

Goin backwards:
Burn
Set image layer break to 1913760 (i think - double check that)
Run the ISO through NME associator (latest version has 3 tabs - use the middle one)
Use XBOX BACKUP CREATOR (latest version - google the forums here to find it - should be ~month old) to test for Image Stealth.
Rip the game.

Its easier if you have the Samsung so and so drive with Kreon.. then u just use Schrotm3.2 or Xbox Backup Creator (latest version) click Extract. Run the ISO through the NME. Burn the ISO in IMGBurn.

[DSM93]

I'm trying to backup COD3 and I'm using wxripper to dump the game.

I did those exact steps but the backup still won't boot. Tomorrow I will try the power led feature, if the led doesn't shut off then I'm sending the chip back and getting another one. I'm hoping I just got a defective chip sent to me.

[ydgmms]

why are you using wxripper?
Do you not have the Samsung SDsomething something drive with Kreon firmware? Did I not ask that question already.... sigh.
Again.. what are you using to rip? what drive?


I've never used wxripper, but i'm thinking theres something you're missing/not doing right.


1) Rip SS.BIN, PFI.BIN, DMI.BIN
2) Rip GAME.ISO
3) Rip VIDEO.ISO
4) Use SSMerger to Merge all those. it even has a 'Create NME Style backup" that you can click.
5) burn merged .ISO file (size should be 7,705,657,344 bytes - if its any more or any less SOMETHING went WRONG with your extracting)with IMGBurn setting the Layer Break to 1913760.
6) Play game.

Or get a Samsung SDwhatever with Kreon
1) Rip ISO with one button click
2) Run through NME Associator
3) Burn ISO with IMGBurn setting layer break to 1913760
4) Play game.


I'm thinking something isn't happening properly in your ripping process. Or you have a not-quite-working-100% chip...


I really wish people would post better descriptions of what they're doing and what they're working with.....

What drive did you install your chip into?
What drive are you using to extract your games?
What is your process in ripping the game. 1) I do this... 2) I do this... 3) I do this...

This post has been edited by ydgmms: Mar 17 2007, 10:23 AM

[DSM93]

Sorry for the late reply but I was waiting for the SH-D162C and verbatims to come in, decided something was wrong with my backups so SH-D162C should eliminate all backup creation problems I might have had.

I flashed the SH-D162C with the kreon firmware, and I'm using XBC to create the image.

Once the image is created I use nme associator to create the nme image.

One thing I noticed was my previous backups had a book type of DVD-ROM, forgot to change this. I load up dvdinfo pro, go to the +rw tab and change the book type to DVD+R DL.

I then load imgburn, change the book type in there too to DVD+R DL, set the layer break to 1913760, load the iso file and burn the image. It still wasn't booting with the Ritek discs so I tried the Verbatims and I'm still getting the "please place disc in a 360" error.  I checked the discs book type with nero cd-dvd speed and it is DVD+R DL, so I'm not sure why it still isn't working.

I also ordered a new nme 1.1 from a different place, the only thing is that the chip doesn't have that cover over the chip or have a marking on it distinguish if it's for a samsung or hitachi drive. So I'm not sure if it's a legit nme chip or the aladdin clone, I ordered from mod-chip.com and they say it's the nme chip but idk I can't tell if it really is.

Also in my first post I said I'm using the NEC 3450A, that was a typo. It's actualy the 3540A and I've flashed it with the Dee's ND3540 1.WB modified Firmware from liggy and dee, this drive and firmware have been reported to work with the nme. Why it isn't working for me, is a mystery.

Anyone have any idea what could be wrong? I think my install might be bad so I'm going to try the alternate points for 1 & 2 and use a different ground point. The drive my 360 has is the TS-H943.

This post has been edited by DSM93: Apr 11 2007, 04:07 PM

[LIVE Prophet]

Well I have not read all the above post yet, but it looks like you have some problem burning your backups. (This is without considering you may have a faulty chip, but thats more unlikely but still is possible)

Answer these questions for me:

1- What type of DVD discs are you using? (Give type and brand name)
2- What speed are you burning them at?
3- Are you using the latest firmware for you DVD burner?
4- Are you absolutely sure that your installation of the NME v1.1 was good? Are all the solder points good and not crossing over to any other points?
5- Have you tried the step by step directions on Team Underdog's website?


It really is simple as far as burning the games. By using Schrotm3.2, you should NOT have to even worry about the SS extract because if you extract the game using "whole disc stealth" (or something like that, cant remember the exact spelling) it will extract the entire disc, SS and all, in one go. Then you would just have to use the NME aSSosciator to do the rest, then burn your game according to the instructions on TU's site. (remember, you must set your layer break in your burning program)

[DSM93]

1. Verbatim Dye: MKM 001
2. 2.4x
3. Using a modified firmware that has been reported by members on the board to properly burn backups
4. Tried the alternate points but couldn't get the solder to stick so I just used the main points. Used steel braid to clean the legs on the chip and there is no solder crossing the legs.
5. Went step by step on their site with burning the image and it still won't work.

I've set the layerbreak in imgburn but still nothing. When I use nme merger to convert the image I load the image into 360 SS Merger and the nme SS is loaded properly. I ran a disc quality check in nero cd-dvd speed, everything was good in the first layer but on the second I got a shit load of PI errors so I think it might be my drive. I'll borrow my friends drive and see if it'll work with his. Also I think I may have gotten a chip for a hitachi instead of a toshiba, if I did receive a chip for the toshiba and my friends burner won't make proper backups I'l sending this chip back and getting a xeno 360.

[*Ricey*]

QUOTE(DSM93 @ Apr 13 2007, 01:58 PM)

1. Verbatim Dye: MKM 001
2. 2.4x
3. Using a modified firmware that has been reported by members on the board to properly burn backups
4. Tried the alternate points but couldn't get the solder to stick so I just used the main points. Used steel braid to clean the legs on the chip and there is no solder crossing the legs.
5. Went step by step on their site with burning the image and it still won't work.

I've set the layerbreak in imgburn but still nothing. When I use nme merger to convert the image I load the image into 360 SS Merger and the nme SS is loaded properly. I ran a disc quality check in nero cd-dvd speed, everything was good in the first layer but on the second I got a shit load of PI errors so I think it might be my drive. I'll borrow my friends drive and see if it'll work with his. Also I think I may have gotten a chip for a hitachi instead of a toshiba, if I did receive a chip for the toshiba and my friends burner won't make proper backups I'l sending this chip back and getting a xeno 360.

buy a poineer 111-112D witer / burner and either trial a net copy along with nme associator jsut for test reasons.  

mine all work fine and dandy - problem best post something in the iso section

[teameffigy]

TECHNICAL SUPPORT!!

-- I'm having a weird problem w/ my nme v1.1 chip.  I have been playing backups just fine (30+ titles).  I got the ripping, merging and burning down great -- but yesterday the chip just stopped working...
I can boot orginals just fine -- but all my backups will not boot (white screen - put in 360 message)

I got the system premodded ~ so I'm not really familiar with the set-up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)   I now have the 360 disassembled -- and found wire not attached to anything.  Here goes explaining ~ it's the yellow wire in a grouping of yellow, black and red (the black and red both go to the hard drive port)  

The yellow that is not attached is soldered to the #10 spot (of 11) on the v1.1 chip.  It has been reduced down to a smaller green wire -- which I'm supposing used to be hot-glued to the motherboard somewhere???

Anyone put up a more detailed walk through or better shots of the points other than what UNDERDOG has put on thier site?  I know I'm not much help and it's not your job to trouble shoot for me -- just if your up for the challenge, or know the set-up really well.  Thanks!  

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This post has been edited by teameffigy: Apr 19 2007, 03:53 AM

[ydgmms]

there should be no wires going to the harddrive port.
I'm *ass*uming that for some reason the people that instaleld it used the +5 and GND from the HDD port to the chip?

Pin 10 I think turns off the network port when a backup is inserted. Its not necessary unless you want to turn off the network whenever you play a backup. But the chip should work with or without it.

[teameffigy]

-- Right you are...  The wires just go to a small blue chip and are soldered onto the #2(RED wire) & 3(BLACK wire) spots.  #1 is empty.  The chip was just sitting ontop of the port.  So I believe you are correct.

I think your right about the #10 wire being the network disabler -- the the system works fine without it.  -- Just won't boot backups anymore.  I'm opening the drive today to see if everything is still connected in there...  

It's strange no one have put together another diagram of the solder points for the NME.  Maybe it's allot easier than what I'm thinking.  I appericate the help!!