Topic: Nme 1.2 - Backups Work - Originals Do Not. (Read 111 times)

sncboom2k · « **on:** January 28, 2007, 07:18:00 PM »

I had my NME 1.2 installed by a pro. After 3 or so weeks of using it - my backups work great but none of my original games will play. I get the dreaded "Insert this disc in a 360" etc.

Have not touched a thing inside the box - any ideas? Please keep in mind that all backups are working with no problems.

Thanks,
Sncboom2k

gamerjoe · « **Reply #1 on:** January 28, 2007, 08:30:00 PM »

Are you ABSOLUTELY sure you are doing a cold boot on your orig?? I have had this happen on orig games before when I do not reboot after playing Backups. If so I would try re-flashing your drive. I know that defeats the whole purpose of the chip, but maybe your drive firmware has become corupt somehow. I currently own a box that had xtreme flashed to sammy drive, with a NME360 chip installed and it plays all three types of media, xtreme flash, nme, and orig.

Just my two cents..

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sncboom2k · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2007, 03:26:00 PM »

Thanks, but I'd rather not flash if I do not have - nor should I have to with the NME. However to answer your question, yes I've tried even from a cold boot - and it's still a no go.

Pretty odd.

Thanks for the information!

Sncboom2k

sncboom2k · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2007, 08:28:00 PM »

Gamerjoe - Dude, I owe you some kudos. I got to thinkin after I read your post and hastily wrote mine. So I came home - tested it again - and yer right. A cold boot works everytime. After booting up a backup - it will error out on an original every time unless I cold boot. Yer the man - I stand corrected and I greatly appreciate your input.

I'll be sure to spread the word on that one.

Everyone - if you boot from a backup - make sure you cold boot before using an original. Lesson learned.

Thanks Gamerjoe.

Regards,

Sncboom2k

sncboom2k · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:33:00 AM »

This brings a concern to mind now that I think about it even further. I think this falls under modchip developement or does it fall under false advertising? You decide.

The NME 1.2 is supposed to detect a backup - then "fall asleep". This would tell me that I should be able to open the dvd rom drive, pop in an original without a cold boot and the drive should function as stock. However it does not. Once I boot from a backup and put the chip / drive into "read a backup mode" - I have to cold boot it to return it to "normal operation" and read an original disc.

Here's the problem with that. This leaves the box in a "read a backup state". You'd think that MS could send a command to the DVD ROM to detect that state and ban those from live in the future. If the drive does not return to "normal" mode after booting a backup - it's not truley stealth. The only piece making it stealth is turning off the network controller via the "optional" wire soldered to the motherboard.

So, do we have a design flaw here or is this just shoddy advertising on Team-Underdogs part? I agree that this chip is great and does a wonderful job at booting my backups etc. However, They advertise that you don't have to change anything on the chip for drive detection - however if you own a samsung drive in your 360 you have to set the chip to "samsung" mode. That's not auto detection by any means. The drive not resetting back to normal mode after a backup boot - is not stealth either.

So my final statement would be "Use this on live at your own risk".

It works great - but I forsee it being detectable in the future if you don't have the NIC disable option installed.

Another 3 cents from me.
Regards,
Sncboom2k

gamerjoe · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2007, 09:16:00 PM »

I also noticed that sometimes when you go from backup to orig without cold boot you can get disc errors as well. BTW, the nme chip I installed in the flashed drive was not working at all. Due to the flash the drive chip was never surrendering to the modchip, interesting thing is, when I placed back orig.bin chip would not work at all. I thought I may have flahed the modchip! but that was not the case either. In any case NME is NOT compatible with xtreme Flash. Even though I re flased to stock, the chip still would not work. This brings up another point, I thought the extreme flash was totally reverseable, it seems as though this is not 100% true. There must be somthing left behind by the flash that is preventing the NME chip from functioning once a drive has been flashed with xtreme, even extreme is removed. Well, I am getting a little longwinded here, this is a topic for another post. Glad You are OK anyway!

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sncboom2k · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2007, 06:21:00 PM »

Gamerjoe
Yeah it says on the website that the NME chip is designed to work with stock firmware only and will not work with an xtreme firmware. But that doesn't explain the issue with not working on a once flashed yet now original firmware...

aaron1017 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2007, 08:56:00 PM »

I go from backups to originals just fine, and vice versa, without a cold reboot. I have an NME 1.2 on a hitachi v78fk.

sncboom2k · « **Reply #8 on:** February 06, 2007, 08:19:00 AM »

Well that doesn't make me feel any better - anyone else sharing my issue or not having my issue?

Wondering which is the norm?!

Haygar · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2007, 06:24:00 AM »

QUOTE(sncboom2k @ Feb 7 2007, 01:50 AM)

Well that doesn't make me feel any better - anyone else sharing my issue or not having my issue?

Wondering which is the norm?!

Yeah, I have the exact same results as you sncboom2k.

I had a xeno chip to start with and although it did work it also had some weird behaviour when compared to my mates 360 with the same chip. No point in going into detail here. We both have sammy drives but his is a ms28 and mine is a ms25. Thats the only thing I could put it down to because I modded his unit EXACTLY the same way.

So now I've swapped with the NME and yes it's a sweet chip but that little hint of backup mode is questionable after reading team underdogs claim of 100% detection of backups or originals.

From my own experiences and what I've been reading in the forums it seems there may be slightly different results with some of these chips depending on the version and/or drive of your console.

slappy_squirel · « **Reply #10 on:** February 19, 2007, 08:40:00 AM »

QUOTE(aaron1017 @ Feb 1 2007, 09:27 PM)

I go from backups to originals just fine, and vice versa, without a cold reboot. I have an NME 1.2 on a hitachi v78fk.

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=574483

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