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bjjung

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« on: December 22, 2006, 11:53:00 AM »

Mine is a Hitach-LG with 78fk firmware and I have the same problem. When I insert originals, dvd spins for a moment with a lot of seeking noise and then stops spinning. Monitor says open tray. Soldering seems not a problem. It would be nice if anyone point me how to solve this problem.
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hornetd23

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2006, 06:18:00 AM »

Well I emailed the guys at modchip.ca(BTW these are a great bunch of guys great support) he suggeted the laser is bad apparently the ones manufactured 2005 were not good. So I will try replacing it, My question is which one Ebay has 3 or 4 different ones HD68, HD63, HD66, HD67 any suggestions?? ANYONE

Also, I cant believe the lack of support from Team Underdog, dont they support their product it seems they dont like to answer emails. It would be nice if they had better install directions.
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Monooxide

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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2006, 09:21:00 PM »

"I believe these 2 points are optional anyway, the diagram on the web site is HORRIBLE for these points and I could not find them onthe board."

Umm....The Network off feature is to be soldered to your Motherboard near the Top fo the Fan Side. IIRC.

The LED OFF/ON Feature is to be soldered on the "LED" part of the On button board not on the DVD Drive board.
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ydgmms

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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2006, 11:19:00 PM »

did you try adjusting the laser?
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hornetd23

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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2006, 05:01:00 AM »

Yeah I tried adjusting the laser but still no luck,Ive tried everything I could think of, so i guess its not to going to hurt to try a new laser.

Thanks for solder points..
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hornetd23

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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2006, 03:49:00 AM »

SUCCESS

Finally, i reinstalled the chip for the 3rd time, adjusted the laser again, this time I took it right down to 2.5k ohm,and sucess.Stuck in an origial and who-hoo it booted. So then the real test, patched the iso burnt it on a FUJI DL DVD with my Pioneer A09 and it worked great.

I never went right down to 2.5K before its quite tricky to get it right there I had it down to about 2.57K last time i tried but I guess it wasnt close enough.

Now to find the last 2 solder points and put everyting back together.

Thanks for all the Help and suggestions. I hope my sucess can help someone else experiencing these problems.
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angrykid

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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2006, 07:13:00 PM »

hornetd23.
I'm assuming you were installing this on a hitachi drive w/ the 11 wires right?
I just got finished soldering wires onto my 1.2 chip and I'm in the process of finding a resting location to hot glue this down then run the wires to the VERY thin contact traces on the dvd board chip.
how in the world did you solder those points?  I'm just trying to get the courage to tackle this and hope it doesnt turn out like my botched ps2 solder job... ugh, I had to completely give up on that....
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angrykid

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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2006, 06:58:00 AM »

Thanks for the advice dude, I cant wait to try my luck at getting this together.
Soldering my original xbox was easy, I did the enigma on it, then the matrix (that I had to solder because the pogo pins didnt work)

I might have to buy a new pen tip from the store to do this job, I think mine's jacked up now after abusing it... it is very sensitive in the spots it touches that it wants to melt.
Now I'm using wire strands from a floppy cable, I hope thats ok for this job, Its what I've used in the past for my other chips.  As far as correct soldering method to the chip & dvd drive, where do you place your pen tip & solder to get a good flow so its not too much to get onto the other contacts?
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angrykid

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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2006, 06:38:00 PM »

alright.... soldering these wires on the dvd board chip leads is a fucking near-impossible task.... even with a damn magnifying glass... I'm still fucking up.... how in the hell can this be possible?
I managed to solder 2..... just 2 of the 9 wires on the chip leads.... and on the 3rd one... I must be losing my mind its like I think I almost got it stuck to the right one.... but it keeps sticking to that AND the one next to it.....
I'm going to destroy my xbox I just know it.....
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angrykid

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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2006, 07:28:00 PM »

ok I finally get all 9 wires soldered in.....
I think.... wow.....go me, I didnt fuck up (yet)
I go to tape them down..... 1 falls off.....
oh well, I'll just solder back on.... pull up the tape a little bit....
the tape rips MORE of the wires off.....
I lose... this is too hard....
you win M$
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appleguru

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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2006, 07:36:00 PM »

Team underdog made the hitachi installs MUCH harder with the v 1.2 chip.. I just did two last night... Secret to geting those wires down? Use 30AWG wire, position it over the flash chip and solder it, touching the iron to the point for only a second. Then TAPE IT DOWN. Then do the next wire, seating it right next to the previous wire and line it up. touch it with the iron, lift the tape and get it under there too. Rinse, wash, and repeat. The reason for the tape is to remove stress from the wires to the points to prevent lifting traces/etc.

I still can't get backups to boot though :/
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2006, 10:01:00 PM »

QUOTE(appleguru @ Dec 28 2006, 07:43 PM) View Post

Team underdog made the hitachi installs MUCH harder with the v 1.2 chip.. I just did two last night... Secret to geting those wires down? Use 30AWG wire, position it over the flash chip and solder it, touching the iron to the point for only a second. Then TAPE IT DOWN. Then do the next wire, seating it right next to the previous wire and line it up. touch it with the iron, lift the tape and get it under there too. Rinse, wash, and repeat. The reason for the tape is to remove stress from the wires to the points to prevent lifting traces/etc.

I still can't get backups to boot though :/



appleguru is correct.  30 AWG wire worked for me as well.  30 AWG (Gauge) is the same wire that IDE Ribbon Cable for ATA Hard Drives use.  You can even look at the cable and it should say 30 AWG.  You can just pull apart the wires and use whatever you need to do the job.

It took me 5 hours to solder on this mod chip, lifting 2 traces myself.  Very Very difficult and not for the novice.  I used 26 or 27 AWG for the +5 volt and ground wire, which is what the floppy drives and older cd-roms/hard drives use.  I heard somewhere that these contacts should use a little thicker wiring.  

Luckilly after spending the time to solder on this chip, everything worked great and Verbatim DVD+R DL worked like a charm.  Burned at 8x.  I adjusted my Hitatchi 47DH drive to 2.915 K OHMS using a Fluke Meter.  Tape is good to use to hold the wires from moving.  Was orignally going to try and solder the wires on by using just 9 wires off the ribbon cable but then had to pull apart each wire individually because it was too hard to manuver other wise.

One thing I did do is alternate the side from which I soldered the wires to.  If you follow the team underdog picture, they show that you should alternate the wires from side to side on the traces.  This allows you to manuver the wires a little better I noticed.  The dang insulation can be a pain in the a$$ to put right next to each other.

Double face tape does work great to mount the chip to the opposite side of the DVD board that you are soldering to.

I did not install the network and led cable, this requires you to run 2 wires out of the dvd drive.  By not connecting these two wires, you can contain everything within the DVD housing which is good when your dismantling your xbox 360 if you ever need to again for some odd reason.

Everything working fine here, only install the additional coil you receive with the NME-360 chip if you have a DVD drive with a ROM version ending in DJ.  Goto Team Underdogs site for more on this.  It's kinda hidden under their picture of their xbox with the magnifying glass.  Didn't even know that thing existed untill I receieved the chip.  Didnt have to use it however because my Rom Version ended in DH.
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angrykid

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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2006, 06:04:00 AM »

alright you guys have given me some hope....
I originally was soldering them in an alternating fashion using strands from floppy ribbon cable, and I was cutting off a couple wire strands inside the sheathing to make it less bulky on the soldering.  I touched each for for maybe HALF a second to a second w/ the pen tip to make solid contact... things were going good.
I'll go back over it when I get home from work and see about re-soldering the 2 wires the fell off... everything else is good.
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angrykid

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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2007, 02:15:00 PM »

well I gave up on this piece of shit modchip....
flashed my damn firmware by throwing the drive into modeB via the slax boot cd.
used Maximus-Garyopa_XTRM-HITACHI_v2_3_Stealth Revision 2
all games work
I'm done ; )
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