Topic: Sick Of Firmware Mods? Real Modchip! (Read 653 times)

understood · « **Reply #45 on:** February 01, 2007, 11:58:00 AM »

The Wii already has some modchips for it so I'm hoping for some homebrew there soon (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Plus awesome controller...

I've pretty much given up waiting for XBMC360 just because I think MS have really thought the security through this time. Original Xbox on x86 was such a mistake for them.

BTW, it's funny how MS basically followed the recommendations the Xbox-Linux guys made. One of them was to divide the community into homebrew, backups, and modchips; instead of letting one exploit compromise the whole system, firmware mods seem to satisfied a part of the community.

This post has been edited by understood: Feb 1 2007, 07:59 PM

DrPepperFan15 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 16, 2007, 12:11:00 AM »

I would have to say that the only reason why so many people make a big deal over the firmware mods is because it means we are starting to unravel the security flaws of the 360 but thats just where it started and possibly where it also has ended...

Talking about it makes me want to stop modding the 360 altogether since nobody has ever even mentioned the chip whatsoever but as from my other post in this topic I guess just waiting to see what will be done is the best possible solution but until then... firmware mods are the greatest thing that has come along so far.

I dont even have a flashed firmware on my 360.... just xcm clear case, talismoon whisper fan and 4" cathodes and I'm happy... Until a chip comes along then I'll do some serious hardware modifications but otherwise if nothing shows up then I guess it's off to the backup situation as it was with my xbox 1

I also would just like to know why nothing is being said about the modchip development or even reesearch at that by Xecuter or Xenium etc... maybe they arent even trying and just thinking that it's a joke taht we think theyre creating a chip?

jcdenton2003 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 20, 2007, 07:48:00 AM »

Thats what im so supprised about.. No comment from the major players like Xecuter ect.. Its like bill gates is round there now with a gun to there heads.

What ever happended to that 360 security presentation? Also that king Kong hacker at that conference?

JC

Nubbs · « **Reply #48 on:** February 20, 2007, 08:05:00 AM »

looks yo me like it was a bunch of BS. Nothing more than theory was ever discussed after that conferance.

jman 31 · « **Reply #49 on:** February 26, 2007, 02:02:00 PM »

Apparently none of you that say that backed up game disks is piracy has 8 yr old and 5 yr old boys! I have two Xboxe 1's w/ 160 gig hdd drives in them and would use backups if that was the only option. I think that the firmware hack is better than nothing for people in my situation. At least I could put the original away and let them play those until they were to scratched to use, then make another backup. I'm happy that option is available.

Jman

clevx · « **Reply #50 on:** February 26, 2007, 06:51:00 PM »

QUOTE(jcdenton2003 @ Dec 19 2006, 03:39 AM)

This guy knows what im on about! Ever thaught they might not be possible to mod?

They said the same thing about PSX mods, gameboy and N64 emulators and a host of other stuff...it will be modded completely, it's just a matter of time. Their time, not ours, so chill and enjoy the fact the people exist and do things you cannot do. That's how I see it...even if I have to wait awhile.

I have no doubt that the people doing these modifications are just as smart (and I would argue in some cases, smarter) then those creating the consoles.

DrPepperFan15 · « **Reply #51 on:** February 27, 2007, 05:53:00 AM »

Well I'm glad an interview with Team Xecuter has finally arrived and now I have some insight on the future of my 360 playing a new UnleashX360 dash and much much more

Party Animal · « **Reply #52 on:** February 27, 2007, 07:34:00 PM »

QUOTE(clevx @ Feb 26 2007, 05:58 PM)

They said the same thing about PSX mods, gameboy and N64 emulators and a host of other stuff...it will be modded completely, it's just a matter of time. Their time, not ours, so chill and enjoy the fact the people exist and do things you cannot do. That's how I see it...even if I have to wait awhile.

I have no doubt that the people doing these modifications are just as smart (and I would argue in some cases, smarter) then those creating the consoles.

I second that! Gotta give props to the modchip developers. Without clear information being released about the inner-workings of the console, it's a very difficult process.

Though I gotta say that I'm with JC on this one. It's been too long, too many hoaxes have been out there, and we are all getting tired of waiting for something to happen other than firmware hacks! I know people are going to flame for remarks such as in this post, but seriously guys...look at all the work being done on consoles like the Wii, not to mention the PS3 with its ability to load LINUX KERNELS on it!!! Lately everyone I have been talking to will mention other consoles, but the 360 is not mentioned.

Party Animal · « **Reply #53 on:** March 04, 2007, 12:54:00 AM »

Looks like a few guys were able to pull off a few tricks with various kernel revisions in order to enter hypervisor mode!
Check it out
So there is some progress, but very very slow. In regards to what JC said...indeed, where is the input from team Xecuter?? Why are we only hearing about a few random/wild exploits from lone hackers out there?

TheSpecialist · « **Reply #54 on:** March 05, 2007, 04:50:00 AM »

QUOTE(Party Animal @ Mar 4 2007, 09:01 AM)

indeed, where is the input from team Xecuter?? Why are we only hearing about a few random/wild exploits from lone hackers out there?

It seems you don't understand how it works. Input from Team Xecuter ? They are a very fine company with great products, but that's not where the hacking happens. Look at the XB1 hack, it was all done by hackers like Bunnie, discussing it on XBH. When it was published how to do it, the modcompanies used the knowledge to build modchips. It was the exact same way with the FW hack, everything was documented on XBH and then modchip companies used the knowledge to build modchips. And now it's the same with unsigned code.

So, it's a bit useless to 'wait for input from Team Xecuter'. I am sure they will build a very fine product (like we're used from them), once a useful hack comes out. But the real hacking is done in other places, like XBH.

jcdenton2003 · « **Reply #55 on:** March 05, 2007, 06:47:00 AM »

Great news about the kernel exploit! Cant wait until it becomes a realistic modding option without all the ifs and buts. Personally im not going to jump at the first sign of homebrew and try and downgrade my console because xbl is too good. I want to wait until i have the option of kernels as in a modchip OR a kernel upgrade emulation like on the PSP.

This post has been edited by jcdenton2003: Mar 5 2007, 02:48 PM

Party Animal · « **Reply #56 on:** March 05, 2007, 07:45:00 PM »

QUOTE(TheSpecialist @ Mar 5 2007, 03:50 AM)

It seems you don't understand how it works. Input from Team Xecuter ? They are a very fine company with great products, but that's not where the hacking happens.

On the contrary, Team Xecuter does all kinds of work themselves with producing new mods/modchips.
See http://www.team-xecuter.com/
Look at their top 5 articles, and notice where they say...
>"After many many more tests we feel we finally nailed the problem regarding dumping game data."
>"...we had a final version manufactured to beta a few weeks ago, we have embarked on an exhaustive testing process"
Like I said, there are many lone hackers out there with their own (and mostly different) methods, but Team Xecuter should be leading the modchip development movement.

TheSpecialist · « **Reply #57 on:** March 05, 2007, 08:36:00 PM »

QUOTE(Party Animal @ Mar 6 2007, 03:52 AM)

On the contrary, Team Xecuter does all kinds of work themselves with producing new mods/modchips.

Your point being ? Of course they have to do work themselves, they create and sell modchips ! But that's not hacking, it's a whole different ballgame. And this is not meant to be disrespectful to Team x, quite the contrary, they've always produced high quality stuff. I'm just saying that the real hacking happens elsewhere (see the technical threads on XBH for example). It was already like that on the xbox 1 and it still is that way right now

This post has been edited by TheSpecialist: Mar 6 2007, 04:38 AM

Party Animal · « **Reply #58 on:** March 05, 2007, 09:50:00 PM »

QUOTE(TheSpecialist @ Mar 5 2007, 07:36 PM)

Your point being ?

QUOTE

See http://www.team-xecuter.com/
Look at their top 5 articles, and notice where they say...
>"After many many more tests we feel we finally nailed the problem regarding dumping game data."
>"...we had a final version manufactured to beta a few weeks ago, we have embarked on an exhaustive testing process"

Modchip development in and of itself is hacking. There's a big difference between the guy who plays with a 360 in his basement and finds how to desolder some stuff and an entire development team. They are the ones who make the chip which fits into part of the system to fundamentally change how the xbox functions. To make that modchip work requires "hacking" the system or at least overriding its security to gain control of it. For that matter, an entire development team (such as Xecuter) should be speaking more about progress on a modchip, rather than the guys sitting in their basements chipping in once in a while.

jcdenton2003 · « **Reply #59 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:17:00 AM »

i agree with both of you. Xecuter didnt really kick off until the xbox 1 was modded so all the hard work was already done. But i belive they have some major hackers on there team. imagine how much money they would make if they got a chip out before anyone else!

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