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Iriez

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« Reply #120 on: July 28, 2003, 12:46:00 AM »

QUOTE (enigmatl @ Jul 28 2003, 02:38 AM)
How is the circumventation and exploitation of an "unsupported emulator" any different?

As its been explained about 5 times now (you obviously either didnt comprehend it, or didnt read it)....

I own my xbox because i bought it. I can do what i please with MY xbox. I dont own games...pirating them is wrong because i dont own them. i PAYED MS for my xbox, so that IT WAS MINE

I DO NOT OWN KAWA-X OR KAWAKS. I DID NOT PAY TO OWN IT.

YOU DO NOT OWN KAWA-X OR KAWAKS. YOU DID NOT PAY TO OWN IT.

NO ONE BUT THE AUTHOR DOES.

HACKING HIS CODE IS CONSIDERED VERY BAD ETHICAL PRACTICE, AND VERY DISRESPECTFUL

Ok, does that lay it out for you good enough, or am i STILL going to get little kids replying to this thread "u guyz r so hypocracy(its hypocrisy btw)....dbl stndardz u r so stupd"

You people need to grow up and realize there is a larger issue at hand than these narrowminded opinions.

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« Reply #121 on: July 28, 2003, 12:53:00 AM »

If someone wants to run MS4 on their xbox they should make their own emulator, otherwise they should be greatful.
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« Reply #122 on: July 28, 2003, 12:55:00 AM »

QUOTE (jizzlobber @ Jul 28 2003, 08:53 AM)
If someone wants to run MS4 on their xbox they should make their own emulator, otherwise they should be greatful.

If someone wants their German car to be faster, they should build their own (andnot order the replacement ship) or they should be greatful....NOT.
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« Reply #123 on: July 28, 2003, 01:04:00 AM »

and more on the ownership of the xbox issue.  MS sold it to you at a LOSS because in their view, they're not selling you a hunk of hardware for you to use as you wish, they are selling you a box so that you could buy games and products licensed by them and use it the way they designed it to be used.  If they were selling hardware outright for you to use as a project to run linux and emulators, they would be selling to you for around $400.  Because the law is shady and untested on the subject, MS doesn't really do anything to you for modding your system but regardless, their wishes are made very clear as for how they want you to use their product, their creation.  Yet you, the ones who criticize the rom exploiters have a problem with others talking about a such act on a website devoted to unauthorized and very disliked exploition of a product.
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« Reply #124 on: July 28, 2003, 01:05:00 AM »

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If someone wants their German car to be faster, they should build their own (andnot order the replacement ship) or they should be greatful....NOT.


That's a terrible example, way off the point.
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« Reply #125 on: July 28, 2003, 01:13:00 AM »

I had to reply, For one I cant hack any of this kinda stuff for shit but just because something is giving to someone doesnt mean that they will not try to make it better if they can. I know if something is given to me I will try to improve it if I can. I really dont understand the anology that it was given. Although do appreciate the emu and it is great work and I respect how the author feels about the subject but just because someone didnt pay for it doesnt mean that it should have an extra meaning to it. Thats all I have to say about the xbox/emu anology that is being debated.

XDAWG
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« Reply #126 on: July 28, 2003, 02:07:00 AM »

QUOTE (jizzlobber @ Jul 28 2003, 09:53 AM)
If someone wants to run MS4 on their xbox they should make their own emulator, otherwise they should be greatful.

Well said. Well, I appreciate the author for making this possible. But, I still can't get this crap to read my ROMS! Can anyone make a step by step tutorial on what to do as soon as you download. Im sure many people have same problems or diffrent problems as I do.  rolleyes.gif
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« Reply #127 on: July 28, 2003, 09:58:00 AM »

QUOTE (enigmatl @ Jul 28 2003, 02:53 AM)
I'm afraid you don't read license agreements too well.  Wheather you agree or not, when you modify your xbox, you are infringing on the holder of the copywrite.  Tech TV explained so in their exploiting the xbox week so dont' even try to go there.  


I wont even bother replying because quite possibly that was the lamest thing i've ever heard.

The guys on techtv are morons.

PS- I dont give a damn about the DMCA ...its a horrible law that has yet to have a large history in court. I would give a good guess it will be thrown out within the next ten years.

http://anti-dmca.org/
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« Reply #128 on: July 28, 2003, 12:18:00 PM »

QUOTE (AnThRaX @ Jul 28 2003, 11:07 AM)
QUOTE (jizzlobber @ Jul 28 2003, 09:53 AM)
If someone wants to run MS4 on their xbox they should make their own emulator, otherwise they should be greatful.

Well said. Well, I appreciate the author for making this possible. But, I still can't get this crap to read my ROMS! Can anyone make a step by step tutorial on what to do as soon as you download. Im sure many people have same problems or diffrent problems as I do.  rolleyes.gif

Doesnt work here neither, I think maybe its our roms or something. Ive been playing with ClrMAMEPro and he found alot missing files and stuff so.
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« Reply #129 on: July 28, 2003, 12:29:00 PM »

i got the predecrypted kof99, but of course, everything wasn't in there. after enough tweaking, copying and renaming, i got it working fine. the problem is that the kof99nd.zip is now a 44MB file compared to 22MB, or whatever.

can someone list what's in the true zip file, so i can get rid of the needless .rom's?
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« Reply #130 on: July 28, 2003, 12:40:00 PM »

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« Reply #131 on: July 28, 2003, 12:43:00 PM »

QUOTE (Koitsu @ Jul 28 2003, 04:29 PM)
i got the predecrypted kof99, but of course, everything wasn't in there. after enough tweaking, copying and renaming, i got it working fine. the problem is that the kof99nd.zip is now a 44MB file compared to 22MB, or whatever.

can someone list what's in the true zip file, so i can get rid of the needless .rom's?

basically if you want to use up the least space, your decrypted romsets must have the m and v roms from the parent rom (kof99 in this case) and also decrypted p roms normally in the xxxxxxxn.zip (the special case for kof99 is that the p roms in kof99n.zip need to be renamed). The final zip size in kof99nd should be 35 megs with the following files:

251-m1.bin
251-v*.bin (* being 1 through 4)
kf99n_c*.rom (* being 1 through 8)
kf99n_p*.rom (* being 1 and 2)
kf99n_s1.rom

and that's it.
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« Reply #132 on: July 28, 2003, 01:15:00 PM »

QUOTE (crazymike @ Jul 28 2003, 03:05 PM)
So its ethically okay to ignore the laws of the state because they are stupid, yet you are supposed to follow the wishes of 1 anonymous coder?

Sounds about right to me.

This one anonomous coder *owns* this code, and gave it to us freely. Yes, i would most certianlly respect it, and not the 'states laws' whom restrict technological advancements and freedom.

Yes..i would definitly say so.
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« Reply #133 on: July 28, 2003, 01:25:00 PM »

The law is not stupid, MS is evil because they want to protect their investment? I think the law is about right. If a company writes software, they have the right to protect their code. I do not buy into any of this "everything should be open source" BS. If I invent a new toaster, should I have to give up the schematics to my competitors? No, make them figure it out on their own.

Now of course I disobey the law too, only because I do not care lol but that does not mean I would hold a grudge against MS if they went about shutting down sites and such.

And again, I do not consider myself ingrateful just because I think the argument that it is okay to play 2 year old roms but not 2 month old ones. I appreciate what Mhz has done but that does not mean I have to agree with the reasons why he does not want new games being played.
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« Reply #134 on: July 28, 2003, 02:01:00 PM »

QUOTE (crazymike @ Jul 28 2003, 10:25 PM)
The law is not stupid, MS is evil because they want to protect their investment? I think the law is about right. If a company writes software, they have the right to protect their code. I do not buy into any of this "everything should be open source" BS. If I invent a new toaster, should I have to give up the schematics to my competitors? No, make them figure it out on their own.

The DMCA goes a bit further than that.

And yes, it's a very stupid law - and one that may yet be reinforced in Europe under the guise of EUCD only because some corporate IP body wants to see IP laws reinforced.  Unfortunately the European politicians who actually get to decide if the EUCD will be reinforced or not are so clueless that I highly doubt the EUCD will NOT be reinforced in Europe.

Putting people in prison for providing nice alternative uses of Adobe Acrobat for disabled users just goes too far. Read up on the anti DMCA site that Iriez provided, then respond.
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