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kanchke

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« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2002, 10:19:00 AM »

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« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2002, 12:23:00 PM »

This Moblie Celeron is a Pentium III Class CPU.

http://www.anandtech...html?i=1561&p=1

Here is a snip from the page and there is also a nice pic of the CPU.
No need to open any xbox's up on this one.

"The CPU that powers the Xbox is a Coppermine based Pentium III with only 128KB L2 cache.  While this would make many think that the processor is indeed a Celeron, one of the key performance factors of the Pentium III that is lost in the Celeron core was left intact for this core.  The Coppermine core was left with an 8-way set associative L2 cache instead of the 4-way set associative cache of the Celeron.  Based on what we've seen with the Coppermine and Coppermine128 (Celeron) cores we estimate that the 8-way set associative L2 cache gives this particular core a 10% performance advantage over the Coppermine128 core of the Celeron.

The fact that Intel decided to go with a 128KB version of the Coppermine core indicates that there is a way of disabling half of the L2 cache without modifying the mapping associativity.  We fully expect the Xbox's CPUs to be nothing more than Coppermine processors with half of their 256KB L2 cache disabled.

The other aspects of the CPU remain unchanged; the core does not have SSE2 support, only support for Intel's SSE instructions.  It still has a 16KB L1 instruction cache and 16KB L1 data-cache and also very important is its 133MHz FSB.  We've proved time and time again about how critical a high-speed FSB is to overall system performance, and the situation is no different inside a gaming console.

The 0.18-micron CPU is contained within Intel's mobile FC-BGA package that is soldered directly onto the Xbox's motherboard.  This not only prevents anyone from attempting to upgrade the CPU but it also reduces the space necessary for the CPU."

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erexx

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« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2002, 09:00:00 AM »


Very nice summation.
I totally agree.
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kanchke

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« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2002, 10:29:00 AM »

hey man, didn't want to diss you or so ... if you like to write like that, that's ok for me, I was just wondering why ...
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« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2002, 09:26:00 PM »

We need to pump up the Xbox FSB... OC-style, baby!
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« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2002, 03:24:00 PM »

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« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2002, 03:30:00 PM »

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« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2002, 04:47:00 PM »

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« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2002, 04:48:00 PM »

QUOTE (RedSlug @ Nov 7 2002, 11:38 PM)
Theorhetically, ANY CPU can emulate ANY other CPU/GPU, given enough speed difference and memory.

But realisitically, the Xbox would have to be 20 to 30 times faster than PS2 to be able to emulate it, and it just isn't that much more powerful. pop.gif

                                    And this has been said about 9 times already. lol  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2002, 08:28:00 PM »

My god, "PSpoo"? Are you serious? Were talking about the games here, not hardware. There are dozens of great PlayStation2 games that are exclusives.
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« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2002, 04:13:00 PM »

QUOTE (Gackt @ Nov 8 2002, 03:28 AM)
My god, "PSpoo"? Are you serious? Were talking about the games here, not hardware. There are dozens of great PlayStation2 games that are exclusives.

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Yeah, and most of the time exclusivly shit!

Ok, granted there may be some titles that appeal to the none-ps2 community, but I honestly can't name any that are ... um..   any?

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Gackt

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« Reply #56 on: November 08, 2002, 05:09:00 PM »

Devil May Cry
BeatMania IIDX
Tenchu3
Dance Dance Revolution MAX
Onimusha 2
Final Fantasy X
Winning Eleven 6: J-League
Kingdom Hearts
Xenosaga
Guilty Gear XX
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Genso Suikoden 3
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec
ICO
Virtua Fighter 4
Ace Combat 4: Shattered Skies
Rez
Gitaroo Man
Zone of Enders
Shinobi
Devil May Cry 2
Zone of Enders: 2nd Runner
Piposaru 2
GunGrave
Frequency
Wild Arms 3
Get Backers
Switch
Jojo no Kimyouna Bouken: Ougon no Kaze
Aero Dancing 4
.hack


etc...
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« Reply #57 on: November 08, 2002, 06:19:00 PM »

all were great, except .hack looked gay
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bagel5009

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« Reply #58 on: November 08, 2002, 06:19:00 PM »

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skullcrusher

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« Reply #59 on: November 09, 2002, 07:49:00 PM »

QUOTE (Gackt @ Nov 9 2002, 12:09 AM)
Devil May Cry
BeatMania IIDX
Tenchu3
Dance Dance Revolution MAX
Onimusha 2
Final Fantasy X
Winning Eleven 6: J-League
Kingdom Hearts
Xenosaga
Guilty Gear XX
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
Genso Suikoden 3
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec
ICO
Virtua Fighter 4
Ace Combat 4: Shattered Skies
Rez
Gitaroo Man
Zone of Enders
Shinobi
Devil May Cry 2
Zone of Enders: 2nd Runner
Piposaru 2
GunGrave
Frequency
Wild Arms 3
Get Backers
Switch
Jojo no Kimyouna Bouken: Ougon no Kaze
Aero Dancing 4
.hack


etc...

Hey now... let's not forget the REAL classics like, say:

Frogger: The Great Quest
Jonny Moseley Mad Trix
Eve of Extinction
Top Angler
Monster Jam
GoDai
RC Revenge
Driven
Paris-Dakar Rally
City Crisis
Army Men
Dino Stalker
Men in Black II
Midnight Run

And who could forget such a console-seller like Surfing H30, which I believe has sold a massive 150 single units on this planet alone! Quite phenominal!

Think hard and i'm sure even you can come up with some even better games to convince people who aren't Pro-PS2 to rush out and buy one!!!

Regards

SkullCrusher
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