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[red_ring_of_box]

what if we did remove the R6T3? Should I still do this mode then or am I good to go. Also could you please define 'Safer' what is it that makes removing the R6T3 so dangerous? I read on xbh that it was because the point that delivered the charge was now open and could cause some damage to whatever was around it if it ever tried to blow an efuse so the solution was to solder this open connection to a ground somewhere. Just curious.

[offica1 g33k]

nice man, have to try that

[cRaCKwHoRe]

1. It will not prevent you from updating via the dashboard, NAND flashing, USB, etc. but it will prevent the eFuses from being blown. That is what kills the JTAG exploit. Doing this will still allow all updates or updating methods. If you try to update the dashboard through NXE it will apply the update but it will not boot because the eFuse counter would be wrong.

2. Have you actually looked at these points on the motherboard itself? They are tiny. Not like in the blown-up picture. I just solder the two points together with a tiny bit of solder. If I need to remove it I just use some desoldering braid to take it back off. It would be pretty hard to jumper those two points together.

[rulnip]

Tiny? Yes it is TINY.. I had to find a magnifying glass just to make sure the bridge was good. It looked good but needed to make sure it was because it was so small.

There would be no way I would be able to connect a wire between them both for easier removal. Bridge them and I do not think you will ever need it unbridged.

 I can still update my Nand and flash it with it bridged. I had to reflash mine even after I have done this.

Why would we need to unbridge it? Anyone know?

[SlickWilly440]

QUOTE(cRaCKwHoRe @ Mar 16 2010, 06:39 AM)

1. It will not prevent you from updating via the dashboard, NAND flashing, USB, etc. but it will prevent the eFuses from being blown. That is what kills the JTAG exploit. Doing this will still allow all updates or updating methods. If you try to update the dashboard through NXE it will apply the update but it will not boot because the eFuse counter would be wrong.

2. Have you actually looked at these points on the motherboard itself? They are tiny. Not like in the blown-up picture. I just solder the two points together with a tiny bit of solder. If I need to remove it I just use some desoldering braid to take it back off. It would be pretty hard to jumper those two points together.

1. In case this happens and doesn't boot, is the only way to get the 360 to boot again is by reflashing the NAND using the LPT or USB NAND Flash method?  

2. I tried looking for it, but couldn't find it.

QUOTE(rulnip @ Mar 16 2010, 11:51 PM)

Tiny? Yes it is TINY.. I had to find a magnifying glass just to make sure the bridge was good. It looked good but needed to make sure it was because it was so small.

There would be no way I would be able to connect a wire between them both for easier removal. Bridge them and I do not think you will ever need it unbridged.

 I can still update my Nand and flash it with it bridged. I had to reflash mine even after I have done this.

Why would we need to unbridge it? Anyone know?

Some people might want to get on XBL all of a sudden, therefore needing to unbridge?

Since bridging the two points will prevent a proper update through the NXE, does this mean everytime Microsoft releases a new Dashboard update that is needed to play a game, we will have to wait/depend for/on the developers of XBR/FreeBoot to release a workable version of that same update?


Okay, I'll take your guys advice, and use a dab of solder if I decide to bridge the points.

[cRaCKwHoRe]

QUOTE(rulnip @ Mar 17 2010, 12:51 AM)

Tiny?  Yes it is TINY.. I had to find a magnifying glass just to make sure the  bridge was good. It looked good but needed to make sure it was because  it was so small.

There would be no way I would be able to  connect a wire between them both for easier removal. Bridge them and I  do not think you will ever need it unbridged.

 I can still update  my Nand and flash it with it bridged. I had to reflash mine even after I  have done this.

Why would we need to unbridge it? Anyone know?  

If you ever wanted to ruin your JTAG capabilities you would unbridge it. I can't think of any other reason. You wouldn't want to officially update it anyway.

QUOTE(SlickWilly440 @ Mar 17 2010, 01:44 AM)

1. In case this happens and doesn't boot, is the only way to get the 360 to boot again is by reflashing the NAND using the LPT or USB NAND Flash method?  

2. I tried looking for it, but couldn't find it.




Some people might want to get on XBL all of a sudden, therefore needing to unbridge?

Since bridging the two points will prevent a proper update through the NXE, does this mean everytime Microsoft releases a new Dashboard update that is needed to play a game, we will have to wait/depend for/on the developers of XBR/FreeBoot to release a workable version of that same update?


Okay, I'll take your guys advice, and use a dab of solder if I decide to bridge the points.

If you screw up your current flash and can't boot to XeLL or XeLLous, Debian, Flash360, etc. then yes you would need to resort to USB/LPT flashing to fix it.

If you wanted to go on XBLive with a JTAG Xbox you would get pretty much insta-banned within minutes/hours so what's the point of unbridging it? Plus, it doesn't prevent you from getting on XBLive. It just prevents your eFuse register from incrementing during an update.

It's simple, if you want to get on XBLive, get another Xbox to play. As far as a new dashboard update goes, you are correct. We would have to wait for a new release of XBR/FreeBoot.

[Conundrum1911]

Any issues ever crop up from doing this since it was found?  I was never fond of removing that resister when I did my falcon, however this bridging thing is interesting.  I'm just worried that yes, by doing this we block the efuses, but is anything else affected negatively in the process?  How was this bridging found out in the first place/what testing was done?

[ravihpa]

I just JTAGGED my Falcon and soldered those 2 points, installed XBR3, and installed the Fall 09 update to get the avatars back.  Everything seems to be working fine so far

Thanx a lot guys, for this very easy alternative

Really appreciate the effort

[SilentBob1638]

You can use a little 'dead' AWG30 as well.
Be aware that Pins of U6T1 and U6T2 are parallel. If you want to check connectivity between 1+2+3 with ohmmeter just use the other pins.

[carniver]

Is silver conductive pen good enough for this?

[Harbinger076]

My solution to this is simple at least in my thinking..

bridge the two points and forget about it

         OR

Never connect your jtag'd xbox to the internet (system update)
Be sure you remove any system update folders from games before playing them

correct ? if your handy with a soldering iron then bridging these two points with a magnifying glass isnt all that hard.   I havent bridged them.. but then again i never plan on connecting this box to a live internet connection only LAN offline

[jigglywiggly]

Can you use silver conductive pen?

[Bon Scott]

QUOTE(SilentBob1638 @ Apr 18 2010, 03:29 PM)

You can use a little 'dead' AWG30 as well.
Be aware that Pins of U6T1 and U6T2 are parallel. If you want to check connectivity between 1+2+3 with ohmmeter just use the other pins.

I used this same set-up at my  jtaged later falcon. Thanks for sharing!

[brandogg]

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[MadBoxer]

I use the bridge method for all my jtags and I understand the simple electronics behind it. I'm curious if anyone intentionally or mistakenly tested it? The concept seems to be correct and it seems like it would work right, but I'm not about to update to test it. Anyone here actually tested this?