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[sini]

QUOTE(ixirockx @ Nov 21 2009, 04:07 PM)

I actually just bought a broken xbox that I'm going to fix and test with 5.3
I'm thinking an upgrade to the lastest dash and then flashing would be the best idea

Have you done this yet? I'm willing to give it a go too... although I cannot seem to flash to flash to stock so I will be going straight to 5.3 and then performing the update. Risky I know but there are people who performed update with 1.4 and were not banned so I'm hoping 5.3 is similar due to it being stealth free.

I was thinking of going even earlier than 5.3 but <5 means no jitter fix.

[TheDemonIII]

QUOTE(sini @ Nov 22 2009, 03:20 PM)

Have you done this yet? I'm willing to give it a go too... although I cannot seem to flash to flash to stock so I will be going straight to 5.3 and then performing the update. Risky I know but there are people who performed update with 1.4 and were not banned so I'm hoping 5.3 is similar due to it being stealth free.

I was thinking of going even earlier than 5.3 but <5 means no jitter fix.

i dont understand how this makes any sense. there were ban waves before the current one... so this isnt the only time that MS was able to detect modified consoles. people got banned on 5.3, so who is to say that they wouldnt get banned again?

[f575gtc]

one thing that  we are over looking
Ceva said it  was the stealth that was doing people in

I have verified TWO consoles with non stealth get banned when trying to sign on

people going back to  original then going online have been ok.


so if stealth was the reason the 1.41 shouldnt have been banned now I understand I could have been flagged earlier, but the lastest console I experimented on got banned, was NEVER on live...EVER went from a 1.51 to a 1.41 non stealth and then went online

I think what happen  is MS  keeps a log of all xboxs that enter live, until the recent ban wave (or when they found out how to) MS had no way of detecting  what variables  ment modded.

once they found out all they had to do was run the logs of the xboxes that connected to live through a search for those variables that constitute a ban.

the program tries to find them and locks that console from live, now why i think some people that are modded have not been banned and why some that are fully legit have is because of the method and varibles used to detect bans that its not perfect.

thats why i believe it doesnt matter when you last turned on your xbox, if it connected to live ever with a modded firmware MS has its log and all they needed to do was run all the logs through the system  if your console met the variables that constitute a ban, your console is done

doesnt matter when u turn it on or if u go to any other firmware (unless LT tricks MS into scanning again which I highly doubt it does)


why I think some people are getting away with going to non stealth is because 1) they never went on live 2) they went on live with a legit stock firmware 3) were lucky enough to not get flagged, and the reason some people are getting away with going to stock and not getting banned is because  MS could have not had enough logs of your console to confirm a ban and were waiting for more logs or the next search, and now that you have stock its searching for variables that arent there because your console is not legit..


thats just my 2 cents, take them or leave them.

[Goldeye]

f575, it does not matter at all what firmware you have when you sign on if you're already flagged.  Both of the consoles you mention were xbl-updated with nonoriginal firmware; that means your results say very little about the integrity of the firmwares.

[f575gtc]

well  what I did proves that it doesnt matter if its non stealth ot stealth

but the 2nd xbox was never updated through live until we tried it  yesterday it was always updated through disc updates

[Nemesis999]

QUOTE(f575gtc @ Nov 22 2009, 03:38 PM)

, but the lastest console I experimented on got banned, was NEVER on live...EVER went from a 1.51 to a 1.41 non stealth and then went online

It doesn't matter if you've never been online. the xbox stores the data and sends it to m$ whenever you do go online. So more likely than not it stored the data from 1.51 and reported once you went online. Either that or you played a game early and they decided to ban you for that.

[ZuuZuu]

Well as I said, my console went from 1.5 to stock [update dash] then to 1.41 non-stealth. ATM its still working on live, and hasn't been flagged up on the xbox site when doing repairs. But this could all quickly change.

[Goldeye]

I'd love if someone took a stock benq system (no spoofing), flashed in 1.41 nonstealth and updated.
That'd be the best confirmation that 1.41 nonstealth is secure.

[sini]

QUOTE(TheDemonIII @ Nov 22 2009, 08:36 PM)

i dont understand how this makes any sense. there were ban waves before the current one... so this isnt the only time that MS was able to detect modified consoles. people got banned on 5.3, so who is to say that they wouldnt get banned again?

Because they were banned for different reasons in the 5.3 days. Nobody stealth checked games back then, there was no abgx, or mulleter.
The reason for 5.3 is that it is non-stealth. 1.41 is a better choice but not available for samsung.

QUOTE(Goldeye @ Nov 22 2009, 11:48 PM)

I'd love if someone took a stock benq system (no spoofing), flashed in 1.41 nonstealth and updated.
That'd be the best confirmation that 1.41 nonstealth is secure.

I think this has been done. The people who are not banned and using 1.41 applied the latest update with 1.41. Although they may have applied a previous update on stock.... can someone with 1.41 confirm if they flashed before going on live or after?

Oh and this is a longshot but.... is there anyone still running 5.3? lol

[willkr07]

I think im gonna flash mine to 5.3a and update and see if I can play on live. I havent played on live since MW2 has come out and its killin me! This xbox I just bought hasnt been connected to live since I got it. What do yall think?

[sini]

QUOTE(willkr07 @ Nov 23 2009, 12:22 AM)

I think im gonna flash mine to 5.3a and update and see if I can play on live. I havent played on live since MW2 has come out and its killin me! This xbox I just bought hasnt been connected to live since I got it. What do yall think?

I think you're a brave man and be prepared to get banned. Don't do it unless you are ok with that. 5.3A is the best choice because B and C both mess with disk speed. Also update to new dash before you flash the new firmware.

Goodluck!

[willkr07]

Unfortunately I dont have the stock firmware or the stock drive so I cant update before I flash I would just have to flash and hope for the best.

Actually I do have another lite-on in my banned xbox that I could maybe flash to stock and update and flash it, would that be a better idea?

[DemisesAngel]

Maybe you could get away with spoofing stock firmware. Although if you get banned, I wouldn't count it as a result since you've compromised it by not having a stock drive. If you do get away with spoofing that you have a stock drive, update then change back to non-stealth then that's a different result.

[willkr07]

So updating with the liteon stock f/w spoofed would be basically the same if I updated with a non-stealth f/w with the sammy?

[ixirockx]

QUOTE(willkr07 @ Nov 23 2009, 01:56 AM)

So updating with the liteon stock f/w spoofed would be basically the same if I updated with a non-stealth f/w with the sammy?

I don't think so. As long as you have the stock spoofed and not a modified firmware there should be no problem. I believe all the spoof does is change the name of the drive as the system sees it, it does not mess with the function of the drive.