Topic: Unban Your 8955 Console. (Read 568 times)

Xoxide · « **Reply #60 on:** November 14, 2009, 02:19:00 AM »

QUOTE(ilscuro @ Nov 14 2009, 04:08 AM)

Correct me if i'm wrong, but he said return it to walmart not M$

And they ask you why you are returning it. If you tell them it doesn't work, they will mark it as defective and send it to M$.

strawsy · « **Reply #61 on:** November 14, 2009, 02:27:00 AM »

Yeah why would they put it back on the shelf and sell it to someone else. If they do that then that's their own fault. If an item is defective it is sent back to the manufacturer or a repair place....more than likely the manufacturer.

TheAquanox · « **Reply #62 on:** November 14, 2009, 05:06:00 AM »

I would like to know if this would work in my situtation.

I have:

1. A dead, Hitachi RROD Pre-July 2009 update console which is NOT banned. (It died early this year)
2. A Jasper, Lite-On banned today.

Would I be able to get the key from that old console in order to transfere it to the newer console?

Thank you!

cuberob · « **Reply #63 on:** November 14, 2009, 07:23:00 AM »

QUOTE(TheAquanox @ Nov 14 2009, 01:06 PM)

I would like to know if this would work in my situtation.

I have:

1. A dead, Hitachi RROD Pre-July 2009 update console which is NOT banned. (It died early this year)
2. A Jasper, Lite-On banned today.

Would I be able to get the key from that old console in order to transfere it to the newer console?

Thank you!

If you have the cpu key of your jasper, yes.
so probably, no.

kompulsive · « **Reply #64 on:** November 14, 2009, 03:16:00 PM »

QUOTE(paperc07 @ Nov 13 2009, 04:15 PM)

ok so this is basically pointless because everyone is updated so how is this of any use to us

That is incorrect. There are numerous ways to acquire a system that hasn't been updated and many of us have more than one of them on hand. However, something like this probably won't be of any use to you. Above all else, this involves reading and paying attention to detail; two things you've clearly failed at horribly.

kompulsive · « **Reply #65 on:** November 14, 2009, 05:22:00 PM »

QUOTE(cuberob @ Nov 14 2009, 08:23 AM)

If you have the cpu key of your jasper, yes.
so probably, no.

I'm trying to follow closely and keep up, but bare with me please.

Isn't the idea to transfer the key from the unbanned box to the banned box? If so, why wouldn't this fix work in his case? Is the problem that the banned Jasper already has the summer update? I was under the impression that only the box you are pulling the key from needs to be pre-update, not the other way around. Please correct me if I am misunderstood, which I believe I may be.

Xoxide · « **Reply #66 on:** November 14, 2009, 05:35:00 PM »

QUOTE(kompulsive @ Nov 14 2009, 07:22 PM)

I'm trying to follow closely and keep up, but bare with me please. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Isn't the idea to transfer the key from the unbanned box to the banned box? If so, why wouldn't this fix work in his case? Is the problem that the banned Jasper already has the summer update? I was under the impression that only the box you are pulling the key from needs to be pre-update, not the other way around. Please correct me if I am misunderstood, which I believe I may be.

You need both CPU keys. You need to decrypt the KV from the unbanned xbox with said CPU key, then patch it into the second 360's NAND, which involves re-encrypting it with the second one's CPU key.

The CPU key is inside the actual CPU, so the only way to change keys is by swapping the CPU (and the image on the NAND).

kompulsive · « **Reply #67 on:** November 14, 2009, 05:46:00 PM »

QUOTE(Xoxide @ Nov 14 2009, 06:35 PM)

The CPU key is inside the actual CPU, so the only way to change keys is by swapping the CPU (and the image on the NAND).

Ahhh, thank you for clearing this up. That answers my question about soldering. The answer is "Yes," you will need to solder for this fix in order to swap the CPUs. Ok, I think I'm making some progress here.

xrkahn76 · « **Reply #68 on:** November 14, 2009, 05:53:00 PM »

QUOTE(kompulsive @ Nov 14 2009, 06:46 PM)

Ahhh, thank you for clearing this up. That answers my question about soldering. The answer is "Yes," you will need to solder for this fix in order to swap the CPUs. Ok, I think I'm making some progress here.

This goes beyond the realm of soldering. It is more along the lines of reflow/reball, as you may need to do just that to replace a CPU. If only it had a ZIF slot!

I have to tip my hat to the guy a few posts up about failing to read! Too much legit info gets buried because people would rather post a question than read to see if it has already been asked or answered.

I hate to sway away from the topic, but I would like to say I am part of a small, but very slowly growing number of people who have accepted the banned fate and moved on to play online with Xlink! it does suck that there is no voice in MW2, but it beats hearing some annoying 12 year old screaming for joy every time he gets a kill.

Xoxide · « **Reply #69 on:** November 14, 2009, 06:03:00 PM »

QUOTE(kompulsive @ Nov 14 2009, 07:46 PM)

Ahhh, thank you for clearing this up. That answers my question about soldering. The answer is "Yes," you will need to solder for this fix in order to swap the CPUs. Ok, I think I'm making some progress here. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

It's completely possible to do without swapping the CPUs. The problem is that you needed to retrieve the keys prior to the Summer 09 update.

kompulsive · « **Reply #70 on:** November 14, 2009, 08:13:00 PM »

QUOTE(Xoxide @ Nov 14 2009, 07:03 PM)

It's completely possible to do without swapping the CPUs. The problem is that you needed to retrieve the keys prior to the Summer 09 update.

Ok...I think I'm back to being lost again, but let me ask you something. Wouldn't, for example, an unbanned RRoD box that hasn't been online for around a year be good to get a key from? If so, why wouldn't you be able to use that RRoD box to unban a Jasper? I'm trying to use a very simple example here. I don't really understand where the breakdown would occur if it would not be possible to unban the box in this example.

Xoxide · « **Reply #71 on:** November 14, 2009, 08:28:00 PM »

QUOTE(kompulsive @ Nov 14 2009, 10:13 PM)

Ok...I think I'm back to being lost again, but let me ask you something. Wouldn't, for example, an unbanned RRoD box that hasn't been online for around a year be good to get a key from? If so, why wouldn't you be able to use that RRoD box to unban a Jasper? I'm trying to use a very simple example here. I don't really understand where the breakdown would occur if it would not be possible to unban the box in this example.

Jaspers cannot run the 1888 kernel, which is needed in this tutorial.
Aside from that, you would need the banned xbox to power on (with video) long enough to retrieve the CPU key, and you would need to already have the CPU key for the Jasper (to re-encrypt the kv).

Let's say you got the really good idea (not so much) to swap the CPU/NAND from the unbanned xbox to the newly banned xbox. At that point it comes down to compatibility (You cannot use a 90nm CPU from a Xenon on a Jasper) as well as your own skillset. Reflowing/reballing would be extremely difficult, and would cost a lot of money if you don't already have the tools.

There is no solderless solution, since you need to solder LPT points to be able to read/write the NAND on both consoles.

kompulsive · « **Reply #72 on:** November 14, 2009, 08:30:00 PM »

QUOTE(Xoxide @ Nov 14 2009, 09:28 PM)

Jaspers cannot run the 1888 kernel, which is needed in this tutorial.
Aside from that, you would need the banned xbox to power on (with video) long enough to retrieve the CPU key, and you would need to already have the CPU key for the Jasper (to re-encrypt the kv).

Let's say you got the really good idea (not so much) to swap the CPU/NAND from the unbanned xbox to the newly banned xbox. At that point it comes down to compatibility (You cannot use a 90nm CPU from a Xenon on a Jasper) as well as your own skillset. Reflowing/reballing would be extremely difficult, and would cost a lot of money if you don't already have the tools.

There is no solderless solution, since you need to solder LPT points to be able to read/write the NAND on both consoles.

Thank you. Well, this pretty much closes the book for me. I'm just going to buy a new box this time I believe. All I have is a banned Jasper and some old RRoD boxes, so I don't think there is any way for me to pull this off.

Xoxide · « **Reply #73 on:** November 14, 2009, 08:31:00 PM »

QUOTE(kompulsive @ Nov 14 2009, 10:30 PM)

Thank you. Well, this pretty much closes the book for me. I'm just going to buy a new box this time I believe. All I have is a banned Jasper and some old RRoD boxes, so I don't think there is any way for me to pull this off.

Fix the RRoD boxes.

How many do you have? I'll take a couple. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

loldart · « **Reply #74 on:** November 14, 2009, 08:55:00 PM »

I get a Japanese console that is ban and I get a US console that is from early 2007(jan) that has never been online. Would this work and will I still keep my region coding on the japanese console to play jap only games?

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