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GameAddict20

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« Reply #75 on: March 02, 2010, 01:25:00 AM »

Hope i can help by saying my setup as i had alot of trouble to begin with.
I first had kynar wires, resistors,diode and it failed to find it lots of times so i replaced the kynar with an ethernet cable and checked all the points were working using a multimeter on the correct pin and the solder point visible from under the board. Another problem i had was that i pushed my wire too far into the solder point and it was shorting on the case so i cut the bottom extruding bits. I resoldered some points that were abit dodgy(not soldered into exsisting microsoft solder), put the resistors and diodes on and connected it up and it dumped perfectly twice. So i guess just keep messing with it until it gives good flash config
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« Reply #76 on: March 03, 2010, 06:23:00 PM »

Hi, hope I help somebody. I tried everything, changing everything in my BIOS setup, resoldering everything. But I make the nandumper WITHOUT the diode and WITH  the 5 resistance and it worked !
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thejipster

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« Reply #77 on: March 04, 2010, 08:24:00 PM »

From my experience, you MUST ensure that the wire length as equal and the solder connections are solid.
The ground point is the most difficult and must apply more heat in order to solder to properly melt and secure a connection.  

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« Reply #78 on: March 05, 2010, 07:44:00 PM »

I tried shorting the pins and now I get the E72 error with 1 red light flashing.  It still does not detect the nand.  Is the box fried now?  I know E72 has to do with nand errors but will I be able to still read it?  (if I can get it to detect).
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Ruiner420

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« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2020, 03:09:00 AM »

Ok I will share a little wisdom for y'all that are still having flash config errors like the ones earlier in this thread.

I came across a xenon console today that the owner said had had a few mod attempts previously, but nobody could get it to dump, with usb or lpt flasher.

I took a look at it and it gave me the "cannot detect a flash controller" error, with my same PC and resistor/diode setup that works with every other 360 I've tried (about 8 or so boards).

I did EVERYTHING to try and get it to dump, and concluded that the flash controller in the SB was permanently damaged. The xbox booted fine though.

I swapped nands with a rrod xenon board, and am now reading the flash of the good xbox from the rrod.

So if all else fails it could be the xbox itself, this one had a bad flash controller it seems.
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« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2020, 09:33:00 AM »

hi @ ruiner420:
any advice on lifting that nand out - i tried this a couple of weeks ago but gave up - too fiddly. i tried solder braid to remove all solder (went quite well) but couldnt get anything under the chip to apply a little upward pressure while i heated. thought i would end up lifting pads or something so gave up for another day. i did think of trying a heat gun but there looks to be too much plastic around to risk it.
i also noticed that with nothing connected i was getting a very low resistance to ground (60 ohm) on one pin of the lpt points. the others were 2.4M. i had this resistance on 2 boxes exhibiting the same "cannot find controller" error. hence my though of removing the nand. so another option was to replace the southbridge - but also way too risky!!
one of my boxes still boots fine btw. the other gives 0110 iirc.

cheers
Ruddles
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Ruiner420

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« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2020, 12:51:00 PM »

I wouldn't even try removing the nand unless you have access to a hot air reflow station. I got some knockoff one on ebay for like $250 (it says "Quakko" instead of "Hakko", lol).

I'm just saying it is a viable method to read the flash if nothing else works, I didn't say it was easy. It's on a similar level of difficulty as doing a 128mb ram upgrade on XB1, though less pins

Another word of advice: practice removing the nand from your donor/parts/rrod board before removing it from your good board. The board doesn't need to power up (rrod, missing parts, etc is fine), it just needs to get standby power, have a southbridge, and a nand. Don't be too afraid if you lift a pad, most of the ones that lift do so because they aren't connected to anything anyways.
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calvin48202

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« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2020, 02:18:00 PM »

Hi,

I am trying to JTAG my Xenon 360. I am using the Universal JTAG adapter. After many trials I finally got Nandpro to see the flash controller. I finally had to use solid core cat5 cable.

The problem that I am now encountering is I run nandpro using the following command

nandpro lpt: -r16 nandbackup.bin

I get the following errors

Error: 600 reading block 01
Error: 600 reading block 02
etc

I have looked on the internet, but do not see anything specifically mentioning this error with nandpro. If anyone could please give me a hand, it would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Calvin
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Copter64

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« Reply #83 on: April 01, 2010, 06:03:00 PM »

OK, my main concern is the way that the pins should be........

Should I have the Male connector facing me or should I be looking at the LPT port on the computer to line the pins the pins up.

This one
(IMG:http://www.washington.edu/lst/help/computing_fundamentals/troubleshootingxp/img/lpt_female.gif)

Or this one?

(IMG:http://kartikmohta.com/tech/parallelport/male.jpg)

so when I am looking at the wiring diagram on the 7 sins site which am I to look at?
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pricer420

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« Reply #84 on: May 14, 2010, 10:34:00 AM »

Hi Im having the same problem ive used this same cable on 5 other xenon boards with no problems so i made a new one shorter and tried it with  and with out ristors but when i did it with out them my power brick light turns red when pluged in to computer im stumpt on this

Thanks
Rob
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pricer420

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« Reply #85 on: May 14, 2010, 10:30:00 PM »

Ok sorry for the double post but i figured out my problem spot 5 6 were a set of holes down i must of had a brain fart there to

Thx
Rob
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« Reply #86 on: June 02, 2010, 03:46:00 AM »

QUOTE(Peckish @ Jan 25 2010, 12:28 PM) View Post

Hello everyone.

I also got the "Could not detect a flash controller" message everytime I tried to read/write my console, even though I had followed every guide I could find on the subject. I eventually got success by connecting everything up as normal (console supply and interface plugged into the parallel port), shorting the data pins (41 - 44) and then sending the read command while the pins were still shorted out. As soon as I done this Nandpro worked immediately, at which point I removed the short on the pins.
Just as a test I got out a second box and hooked it up the same way and tried to read/write but once again I got the "Could not detect a flash controller" message. I then proceeded to short out data pins 41 - 44 and while keeping the short in place, sent the Nandpro command. Once again nandpro started working and began dumping.

I'm not sure if this is just something unique to my setup but it would not do any harm for everyone that is having problems to try this. If it does not work with data pins 41 - 44 then try the same procedure on pins 29 - 32.
Regards to all,

Peckish



I can confirm that this works.  Thanks.  But I made a different mistake, flashed xenon xellous to a jasper system and it wouldn't allow the me access to the nand anymore so I shorted pin 41-44 and got it to read again.
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« Reply #87 on: June 03, 2010, 01:12:00 PM »

I have a Jasper 16MB and I have done it all. I have checked the bottom of the board with the corresponding parts and everything is fine. The length of my wires are 7 inches (kynar 30awg). I have turned on my xbox with the jtag to see if it works and it does. I have Ameritrend Bios. I have used Auto, 378, 278/ECC-EPP, Bi-directional/EPP 1.9, EPP 1.7. I have tried with/without every combination. I have resoldered all points and checked EACH time with a multimeter from LPT to bottom of board. I have checked for splatter, removed all solder around points and went into just the MS lead-free stuff. In fact, my resistors and diodes are all the way through but only by a bit. Nothing is longer than the bottom chipsets of the board. I have literally been troubleshooting this since Thursday. I don't think I should be shorting the NAND unless I have a good read. The next step is putting it back together and putting it in a closet until a solution comes around. I haven't prayed since I was a child, but this may be the reason why people find gods. Has there been any word on if soldering to separate grounds is the issue? I will try that next maybe.
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« Reply #88 on: December 08, 2010, 07:15:00 AM »

Have flashed 2 xenons without problem. Did readouts on my first jasper a couple of days ago without problem. But after installing the blackaddr jtag with transistors it stopped working. I didn't desolder the lpt cables so nothing has changed except adding the jtag hack.

"Could not detect a flash controller!"

I've tried to resolder all wires and also remove the diode. Will try to remove the resistors next.

Any ideas? Can adding the transistors and such disturb the lpt connection?
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erak

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« Reply #89 on: December 11, 2010, 06:41:00 AM »

QUOTE(erak @ Dec 8 2010, 03:15 PM) View Post

I've tried to resolder all wires and also remove the diode. Will try to remove the resistors next.

Resoldered everything one more time and also tried removing the resistors. Didn't help.

Will just have to remove the jtag-components and see if it works... sad.gif
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