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inpherno3

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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2010, 03:27:00 PM »

im also having nothing but problems. I have tried two different boards, two different size wire. Checked everything with a multimeter. Everything is in place, but this pc will not detect a flash controller at all. I've resoldered everything and not even once has it detected it..... im at my wits end
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troy2000

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« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2010, 03:17:00 PM »

I'm having the same problem.  All connections have been soldered perfectly and tested via multimeter.

"Could not detect a flash controller."

Tried on 3 PCs.
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nomar383

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« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2010, 03:33:00 PM »

I got a different console and used an old windows 98 PC and it finally worked for me first try.
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« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2010, 03:40:00 PM »

i had unbelievable amount of problems doing this to my xbox

i have done a zenon and a zepher both without resistors and diode with the wires under 15cm long definetly the wires were the problem

as for the cannot detect flash there is a way to short pins on nand and will be recognized
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spider861

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« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2010, 02:55:00 PM »

QUOTE(fullfocus @ Jan 20 2010, 11:40 PM) View Post

i had unbelievable amount of problems doing this to my xbox

i have done a zenon and a zepher both without resistors and diode with the wires under 15cm long definetly the wires were the problem

as for the cannot detect flash there is a way to short pins on nand and will be recognized


Can you please explain how to 'short pins on the nand' to get it to recognize?
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« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2010, 06:38:00 PM »

Im getting this aswell, checked every soldering, tried with and without diode on 11.
Resoldered everything, tried 2 pcs, tried every bios settings, tried to short pins on nand.
Nothing works, anyone have an idea? I really want to get this working... only reason i bought the xbox
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kayinart

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« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2010, 07:55:00 AM »

I have the same problem as everybody else.  Here's my post-

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=703617
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Ruby Danger

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« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2010, 07:08:00 PM »

Well - same boat as all but thought I would document my success and failures to possibly help someone else out.

Did 2 boxes last night - both Xenon.  1 box worked perfectly after we did the following:
It would not read without the switching diode - and to those that are unsure - it did not work with the switching diode outside of the box (lpt connector) but did work when we soldered it directly to the mobo.
Without the diode it would recogniz but returned error 0: for every block.  For us, the diode fixed that.

2nd box not so lucky (which is of curse my box).  Still sitting on "could not detect a flash controller can not continue" and I have exhuasted my efforts for now.  I am also afraid that I have destroyed one of my copper rings after numerous different soldering attempts.  The box does still boot up fine and plays games fine so mobo appears to be fine!!  Will probably tear it all down and start fresh again tomorrow.  It's just frustrating to have 1 box work so perfectly and one box fail so miserably.

Some assumptions I am making that I would love to hear either confirmed or debunt (spelling?)

1) Since the 1 box worked, I am obviously using correct resistors and diodes, as well as bios LPT settings.  So same settings should work for 2nd box.  Is this correct?

2) If you run nandpro lpt: -r16 orig.bin without the lpt even connected to the PC, you get "could not detect a flash controller can not continue" which tells me that getting that message when it IS connected basically is saying - "nothing is recognized" which would lead me to think, if same exact layout as far as diodes and resistors works on one, that it is simply a soldering issue on the mobo????

3) One quick question - I am tempted to use some 24 guage solid wire rather than the flimsy braided CAT wire.  Any reason I should not do that in anyones opinion??

Thanks guys - either way - I will hunt down another box if I have to just to get this going!!

Good luck fellow head scratchers!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by Ruby Danger: Jan 24 2010, 03:19 AM
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seanzscreams

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« Reply #54 on: January 24, 2010, 01:29:00 AM »

okay  first and foremost i have been in the same boat as every one  and holy hell have i finally figured it out  it doesnt matter what pc just resistors or no resistors   but here is the loop hole i didnt realize  i have been trying to jtag 3 xboxes 4 diff computers 4 diff os    no luck  so here is how i solved it.
     first    ditch the ethernet  cables   braided wire   sux     second  if you must do the cat 5 cable please look at the coupler and make sure its a fucking cat 5 coupler  mine was a patch  which is what got me started  on this  so i soldered every box every time resistors to the board  xenon falcon and zephyr  tried xp vista  7 and 98  all worked all 3 boxes   but my totall length of wire.....  6 inches total .....  6 inches  resisitors on every wire that needed and 1n914 switching diode  on pin 11  so i had to lift my 360 off the ground with books to bring it to lpt level , again  any computer   any os   any  mode  epp ecc epp+epp bidirectional normal    alll worked   wires  wires wires  length length lenght i cant stress it enough

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houndogs

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« Reply #55 on: January 24, 2010, 04:59:00 AM »

QUOTE(Ketchup_Bomb @ Jan 2 2010, 04:10 AM) View Post

I'm have this same error--"Could not detect flash controller"--with my Falcon board. This is my first attempt at it, and I'm an amateur solderer but I believe I've wired everything up correctly.

I've gone through all the BIOS settings, and I'm about to desolder my wires and try it without the resistors.
I have 100 ohm resistors and the 1N4148 diode directly on the board. Any suggestions on what I should try next? Remove just the diode? Remove all resistors, keep the diode? Remove everything? Just wondering because it takes forever for me to solder. tongue.gif

Edit: I decided to take a picture so if anyone can spot something I've done wrong, please let me know. tongue.gif
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Edit2: I also tried powering on my 360 and it powers on when the LPT cable is NOT connected to the PC, but it does not when it is connected. Even when the computer is off, if it is connected, it won't boot. Is that the desired behavior?


I'd attach the resistors inside the DB25 connector, and try 1/2 watt 100 ohm resistors there the blue ones, make the cable length about 30cm, also put pin 18 to J2B1.12.One of your solder points looks like it hasn't enough solder on it, I can see the wire but not much solder, make sure you have enough on all the points to make a good connection, Also try using KYNAR WIRE 30AW its easier to solder  than the thicker stuff. This is what I did on my first attempt at this and it worked for me & I'm not very good at soldering either.
Good luck I hope you get it working
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Ruby Danger

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« Reply #56 on: January 24, 2010, 10:25:00 AM »

Well I got a 3rd box going as well, but still unable to get the 2nd box going (mine of course) so I am gonna say I fried the solder points on the 2nd box.  So now I am simply gonna c4e mod it and trade it to a buddy that has a box that has not been online and do it again   biggrin.gif

I did find it much easier to simply solder the resistors directly to the board rather than trying to mess with the braided cat5 - then soldered the cat5 to the resistors - literally was able to solder the entire lpt section of the hack in 5 minutes time!!  Feel I can pump these out pretty fast now!!
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« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2010, 12:49:00 PM »

From my experience:

Follow Grim's guide for wiring Grim's guide , Much better success rate then the Noob guide posted.  Try to keep your cable under 2 feet in total.

If your sure your wiring is correct, and it still won't detect flash controller, lower the resistor value on the LPT: end of cable 66ohm, 50ohm, 33ohm etc (I use 33 ohm), some people even remove the resistors completely, someone mentioned possible motherboard damage from a high voltage parallel port with no resistors, so use caution.

If your still having problems after that play with the LPT port settings in BIOS, Standard is recommended (SPP) but many have used other settings with no problem.

Last option is to try another computer.

Once you have the controller detected, make sure you have the diodes set according to the guide(unlike resistors diodes are directional, make sure to pay attention to the black line) to fix most flash config/read errors.

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NLA

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« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2010, 12:55:00 PM »

Just thought I'd tell what worked for me: I was having the same problem with "Could Not Detect Flash Controller" and I was a bit annoyed. I'll be honest, I could be better at soldering to those tiny little spots on the motherboard, but after a few hours I did it, and the wires seem to be firmly connected.

Details:
- Falcon revision
- 5x100 Ohm 1-watt resistors in the LPT housing, not soldered to the board
- Telephone wire soldered to the 360 (copper?)
- Shorted both the top and bottom NAND data lines (and accidentally hit the middle power pin one time! NAND seems ok.)
- NO diode.
- Hooked directly to PC from 360 LPT connector, no cable
- LPT mode used: Bidirectional

For me, connected the LPT connector in the 360 directly up to the PC did the trick. No LPT cable. Its all working great and I'm not having any read errors! Checked in a hex editor, it looks like a valid NAND dump. Dumping a second nand as I speak.

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spider861

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« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2010, 02:46:00 PM »

QUOTE(NLA @ Jan 24 2010, 08:55 PM) View Post

Just thought I'd tell what worked for me: I was having the same problem with "Could Not Detect Flash Controller" and I was a bit annoyed. I'll be honest, I could be better at soldering to those tiny little spots on the motherboard, but after a few hours I did it, and the wires seem to be firmly connected.

Details:
- Falcon revision
- 5x100 Ohm 1-watt resistors in the LPT housing, not soldered to the board
- Telephone wire soldered to the 360 (copper?)
- Shorted both the top and bottom NAND data lines (and accidentally hit the middle power pin one time! NAND seems ok.)
- NO diode.
- Hooked directly to PC from 360 LPT connector, no cable
- LPT mode used: Bidirectional

For me, connected the LPT connector in the 360 directly up to the PC did the trick. No LPT cable. Its all working great and I'm not having any read errors! Checked in a hex editor, it looks like a valid NAND dump. Dumping a second nand as I speak.


how did you short the pints on the nand?  Which ones did you do?
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