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[pdx98]

I don't mind people hacking their xbox to play pirated games (thats what you all do anyway) but when someone potentially can get another person banned thats just wrong.

[Barnolde]

The cat and mouse game continues...

[RuFf rYdA]

Just like the xbox 1, you have to get it from an unmodded one
Just alot harder to do for the average joe

[bucky007]

great job,

But what would happen if 2 consoles with the same ID tried to log into live at the same time.

Both would get banned i Guess.

[Rimbaldo]

Well... I think that the main importance of this unban of his xbox is, to the master hackers, that the serial, Id, whatever MS has done to keep each xbox exclusive, is completely inside the nand chip, and not something hardware created inside each processor..., so it could be programmable..

Although I don´t now if it makes any real practical difference to the hackers out there....

Just my newbie thoughts...

Still waiting on my 2858 kernel for the future.....

[openxdkman]

Yep, a black market will open with "key vaults" from dead modded consoles put on sale...

It's theoretically possible to have a few nasty guys able to get some from not yet sold consoles, and so leading to the risk to have both consoles detected and banned (if both use same key vaults online simultaneously), but honestly the hardware mod to do on not yet sold console is quite huge...
I don't think that will happen, unless the price of the "key vaults" go very high, but in that case, it will be easier to purchase a new console.

But there are still a few hacks to discover. One of them will be to identify in your firmware if you have been marked for a ban. So you can remove the mark before connecting to Live again.

It seems ban happens because you do something unexpected offline. Playing online with original and last version of firmwares seems still valid and not attracting ban. Firmwares authors strongly suggest you create backup with your own original. So, they are made for homebrewing possibility and scratches avoidance. If you get tempted by something else, you will fall. Still, homebrewing and avoiding scratches on your original can be detected as "unexpected event" by dashboard.

Maybe just dump your firmware right after connecting to live with original.

Then do something unexpected.

Then dump again and compare.


It becomes more and more interesting for everyone to mod and master firmware swapping...

Don't forget fall update may just kill any firmware swapping to the new firmware (2BL change) and kill the time attack procedure to get cpu key for those who don't have it yet.

PS: We shouldn't ignore the possibility mark may be done on the memory cards or hard disk... Also need to remove from all the buzz all the posts from people playing games online that are not even available on shelves in their area, in order to have clearer idea of how ban is decided (because their ban is obvious).

This post has been edited by openxdkman: Nov 23 2007, 03:30 PM

[xboxmodder4life]

i think in the coming weeks/months if this becomes easier for the avg. user you will see lots of ass bags going to walmart buying systems stealing the keyvaults and returning the system. Which will then lead to someone buying a "new" xbox360 which is banned..

[1nsan3]

i think its bullshit that once u get banned u can do this trick and get back onlive by trickin xbox live. i can understand for offline use. But you and me both know that more than half the modding community would love to be able to mod online. Example: Halo 2.

Hopefulyl M$ does come out with a stronger ban this comming dashupdate.

If ya want to have a modified 360 for ofline ONLY  fine but the mod/Firmware should not even allow it to connect to xbox live at all.

But i do see a very fast fix on m$'s part for this "key" deal.

personally i would be PISSED if i went to a game shop and picked up a 360 that was banned. but hey does the person who did it care? fuc* no!! do you? Probebly not, as long as it dont happen to you right....

[88 Ecko Unltd 88]

everyone for the great news



for anyone how hasn't seen the vid here it is

LINK FOR VIDEO



This reminds me back in the old days with the xbox1 .... Never thought the 360 was gonna be so exploitable. And jet has one of so many flaws

Anywayz keep the great work up  

[Xink]

QUOTE(g8crapachino @ Nov 23 2007, 11:20 AM)

There are two things wrong with your assumptions...

The odds of a hacker randomly guessing a new and valid key are astronomical.  You have better odds of winning the next lottery.

A so called "innocent" person purposely letting someone else mod his xbox just to get the key wouldn't be so innocent.

Well.. i dont know much about it but its byte-by-byte secured.
So i guess the process will be automated in not too long and it will just 'generate' a key.
WHEN that happnes it will guess someone elses (or a not bought consoles) key and he cant do anything about it.
The guy/girl doesnt even know when his/her key is stolen.. and will just get banned, that would suck.

Or im just all wrong.  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

[caster420]

QUOTE(openxdkman @ Nov 23 2007, 08:51 AM)

Yep, a black market will open with "key vaults" from dead modded consoles put on sale...

 

Again, you need a working motherboard with a known dvd-key to be able to extract the information.  So, yes, a RROD console could be revived  long enough to downgrade, upgrade, and launch the KK exploit but it isnt a simple process.  If this market does develop, it will not be cheap.

 

Caster.

[rabbitstroker]

The day will come when the 360 is totally hacked, just like xbox1 and with the use of apps like configmagic360 we will easily be able to grab the info we need. It won't be expensive then, probly just a chip or maybe even cheaper yet a soft mod, all is possible!

[flashfreak]

QUOTE(qwerty1234567892 @ Nov 23 2007, 04:05 PM)

They have the ability to detect when backups are played so BANNING is just stupid, how about simply blocking access to live when people play backups and allow it when the copy is legit? thats fair isn't it. People then actually bother to buy games and microsoft continues to collect money from it, not to mention the live fees

Sounds like a good idea, but microsoft would rather keep them off the network just in case.

And for someones questions about 2 360's with the same key logging onto live, they would probably get banned very quickly. Microsoft would be thinking 'wtf? oh crap, they did it'

[Unregistered007]

WOW

The method of getting your 360 unbanned is so simple even a cave man can do it.. NOT!

[ironopolis]

I agree with a previous post, if you've modded your xbox stay of LIVE. You forfeitted that right the moment you opened your box!