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[BoNg420]

but you don't understand, having a 50,000+ gamerscore will help you score with the ladies   Its worth cheating to get

 

[bill16504]

Any of you remember that "Old Spice Challange" MS had awhile back? The winners were based on their added gamerscore during a certain period.

Or how about this... how many of you have posted/read in a achievement thread "MS should convert my gamerscore into MS points" or what not.

Well... nothing positive will ever happen with your gamerscore as long as there are people cheating with their gamerscore. I'm sure MS would have more challanges, contests, maybe offer points, etc, etc, if it weren't for those a$$holes over there on 360gamesaves.  

Bottom line... MS is all about the $$$. So if they could generate more cash by getting you to buy new games and raising your gamerscore, they would. But as it stands right now in regards to being rewarded for your gamerscore, nothing will happen.

This post has been edited by bill16504: Jun 15 2007, 02:25 PM

[twistedsymphony]

Serious question about the resigner:

I don't follow the 360 game save stuff closely, it's unclear to me what this means in terms of game saves... Does this mean game saves from before last falls update will work again? or is it simply a way for those who had their consoles black listed to share saves again? Even more cryptic then this news is the one on 360 game saves own site  


To people who bash 360Gamesaves and the team over there
These people are doing important work... PERIOD these advances while related to game save sharing also make HUGE steps forward in terms of understanding the Xbox 360's security system and bring us that much more closer to doing things like running homebrew (XBMC emulators etc.)

If you're giving the "F-U" to 360gamesaves you're giving it to the same hackers that are on the front line bringing us closer to XBMC and emulators on the 360.

Just because their tool and be aberrated to help people cheat with achievements doesn't mean that's all they stand for.

It's like they're building baseball bats... just because a lot of people are buying them for weapons doesn't mean they can't be used for other GOOD things.

Honestly I wish they'd close the Achievement section of their forums I really don't understand why they ever opened it as it quashes a lot of their credibility... but on a whole  I think they're doing much more good then harm.

I don't hate anyone who tries to break down barriers in the system, that's what Xbox-Scene is all about.. Hate the people who uses those advances to cheat and ruin your gaming experience.

you're essentially blaming the gun company for people who are killed by guns.

[quall]

I like how people never really complained about saves until those useless achievements were introduced on the 360.

[HP Sauce]

QUOTE(XanTium @ Jun 15 2007, 06:46 AM)

actually ... MS designed gamesaves so they could be shared (Xbox360 memory card) ... if gamesaves can raise your gamescore, blame the bad programming of game developers and not gamesave sharing sites.

Are you serious? Such a naive viewpoint from an Admin, of all people. MS did not intend for saves to be shared in ANY sense of the word, whatsoever. Yes, it is their fault entirely for not enforcing security around such a thing, but to imply they are meant to be shared with other Xbox users in this context is simply ludicrous. Without the gamesave sharing sites, there would be less cheating muppets found in the community, so whether they like it or not they have to share some blame.

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jun 15 2007, 02:43 PM)

To people who bash 360Gamesaves and the team over there
These people are doing important work... PERIOD these advances while related to game save sharing also make HUGE steps forward in terms of understanding the Xbox 360's security system and bring us that much more closer to doing things like running homebrew (XBMC emulators etc.)

Those people's works would be put to much, much better use if they were intent on purely showing MS what they're doing wrong, but this is in no way the case, sadly. The foundation of that site is purely to cheat gamerscore, nothing honourable at all can be blagged in their case. Fair enough if they're advancing knowledge of 360's security, but they're putting in to use in the worst way possible.

Tara.

[maniacaltwitch]

QUOTE(bill16504 @ Jun 15 2007, 08:25 AM)

Any of you remember that "Old Spice Challange" MS had awhile back? The winners were based on their added gamerscore during a certain period.

Or how about this... how many of you have posted/read in a achievement thread "MS should convert my gamerscore into MS points" or what not.

Well... nothing positive will ever happen with your gamerscore as long as there are people cheating with their gamerscore. I'm sure MS would have more challanges, contests, maybe offer points, etc, etc, if it weren't for those a$$holes over there on 360gamesaves.  

Bottom line... MS is all about the $$$. So if they could generate more cash by getting you to buy new games and raising your gamerscore, they would. But as it stands right now in regards to being rewarded for your gamerscore, nothing will happen.

well fyi if you game saved to do that you were inelligable

QUOTE(HP Sauce @ Jun 15 2007, 09:25 AM)

Are you serious? Such a naive viewpoint from an Admin, of all people. MS did not intend for saves to be shared in ANY sense of the word, whatsoever. Yes, it is their fault entirely for not enforcing security around such a thing, but to imply they are meant to be shared with other Xbox users in this context is simply ludicrous. Without the gamesave sharing sites, there would be less cheating muppets found in the community, so whether they like it or not they have to share some blame.
Those people's works would be put to much, much better use if they were intent on purely showing MS what they're doing wrong, but this is in no way the case, sadly. The foundation of that site is purely to cheat gamerscore, nothing honourable at all can be blagged in their case. Fair enough if they're advancing knowledge of 360's security, but they're putting in to use in the worst way possible.

Tara.

all i can say is moron

[Syc]

QUOTE(HP Sauce @ Jun 15 2007, 10:25 AM)

Are you serious? Such a naive viewpoint from an Admin, of all people. MS did not intend for saves to be shared in ANY sense of the word, whatsoever. Yes, it is their fault entirely for not enforcing security around such a thing, but to imply they are meant to be shared with other Xbox users in this context is simply ludicrous. Without the gamesave sharing sites, there would be less cheating muppets found in the community, so whether they like it or not they have to share some blame.

Those people's works would be put to much, much better use if they were intent on purely showing MS what they're doing wrong, but this is in no way the case, sadly. The foundation of that site is purely to cheat gamerscore, nothing honourable at all can be blagged in their case. Fair enough if they're advancing knowledge of 360's security, but they're putting in to use in the worst way possible.

Tara.

I really don't see why this upsets alot of people as the same could be said about firmware flashing.  

[maniacaltwitch]

immature...................... gamesaving hurts no one, i wonder if flashing your firmware to play"BACKUPS" does??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

[rooter75]

Or Tara's a company gal! Hackers and corporate suits usually don't see eye to eye on things.

[Illumi.Naughty]

Damn firmware flashers and gamesave cheaters!!!

I am still waiting for some more xbox360 hacking advancements in the scene before I buy a 360. Then I'll have one modded and one for live.
By that time hopefully all the BS cheaters are gone, but chances are they will ony become more prevalent.

BYW- Nothing against firmware flashers, I just wanted to jump on that bandwagon of haters as it rolls by.

This post has been edited by Illumi.Naughty: Jun 15 2007, 06:04 PM

[Deihmos]

QUOTE(maniacaltwitch @ Jun 15 2007, 12:25 PM)

immature...................... gamesaving hurts no one, i wonder if flashing your firmware to play"BACKUPS" does??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)

I agree. Flashing does more damage than gamesaves and that is a fact. i remember MS offered some kind of competition regarding gamerscores but because of this junk i doubt it will ever happen again. I saw this dude with a gamerscore of over 100,000 and his profile said he never played any of the games. lol

[bucko]

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jun 15 2007, 02:43 PM)

Serious question about the resigner:

I don't follow the 360 game save stuff closely, it's unclear to me what this means in terms of game saves... Does this mean game saves from before last falls update will work again? or is it simply a way for those who had their consoles black listed to share saves again? Even more cryptic then this news is the one on 360 game saves own site  
To people who bash 360Gamesaves and the team over there
These people are doing important work... PERIOD these advances while related to game save sharing also make HUGE steps forward in terms of understanding the Xbox 360's security system and bring us that much more closer to doing things like running homebrew (XBMC emulators etc.)

If you're giving the "F-U" to 360gamesaves you're giving it to the same hackers that are on the front line bringing us closer to XBMC and emulators on the 360.

Just because their tool and be aberrated to help people cheat with achievements doesn't mean that's all they stand for.

It's like they're building baseball bats... just because a lot of people are buying them for weapons doesn't mean they can't be used for other GOOD things.

Honestly I wish they'd close the Achievement section of their forums I really don't understand why they ever opened it as it quashes a lot of their credibility... but on a whole  I think they're doing much more good then harm.

I don't hate anyone who tries to break down barriers in the system, that's what Xbox-Scene is all about.. Hate the people who uses those advances to cheat and ruin your gaming experience.

you're essentially blaming the gun company for people who are killed by guns.

Well said, certainly agree.

[Reaper527]

QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jun 15 2007, 09:43 AM)

because their tool and be aberrated to help people cheat with achievements doesn't mean that's all they stand for.

just to expand on this point for everyone, this is very similar to when the firmware hacks came out for the 360. tons of people were running around saying "this is terrible, its just hurting the scene as only a pirate cares about it". then, almost a year later, that hack allowed the hypervisor exploit to be discovered/used to run linux on the 360.

don't take scene progress at face value, as one thing builds on another to create the big picture.

[Deihmos]

QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Jun 15 2007, 02:30 PM)

just to expand on this point for everyone, this is very similar to when the firmware hacks came out for the 360. tons of people were running around saying "this is terrible, its just hurting the scene as only a pirate cares about it". then, almost a year later, that hack allowed the hypervisor exploit to be discovered/used to run linux on the 360.

don't take scene progress at face value, as one thing builds on another to create the big picture.

i can assure you that not many people cared about that linux thing. Whenever it was posted the forum responses never got off the first page but when you post a new Hitachi firmware it goes over 50 pages.

[quall]

everyone and their grandma can use the firmware hacks.

only people who don't have xbox live, do not use updates, and have an older console version can use that exploit. It is a minority amongst the minority of people who even know about it. there is a big difference.

linux was an example of the exploit he was talking about. just because you will not use it or because it is not popular, does not mean it will not contribute to the scene. having access to the system through linux will only help people understand how the 360 works. it probably allows them to poke hardware much easier as well.

This post has been edited by quall: Jun 15 2007, 08:19 PM