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W0bbie

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« on: June 05, 2007, 05:32:00 AM »

Hi Guys,

Has anyone come up with a solution to getting the band 360's back onto live? e.g changing the ID of the 360 if indeed that is how they are banning them? do we think this will be possible? I don't see why not, its just a number after all that could be re programmed.

Thanks for your thoughts in advanced.
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Elbowz

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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2007, 07:31:00 AM »

I thought along the same lines as u buddy wasnt to sure weither it can be done but i think it is illegal or atleast if it is like changing a phones imei number then i think it probably is illegal but it wud sure get us back online and it needs a s**t load of soldering!
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007, 08:23:00 AM »

We dont know how ms works but i dont think they are changing ID (im almost sure).They ban your console ID.Only a official ID from a other console will work a generated key will never work.You always need a new ID (console).Keep your banned console offline play back ups with it and use your new console for xbox live thats the safest way.

Greetz ToBbErT

This post has been edited by ToBbErT: Jun 5 2007, 03:29 PM
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W0bbie

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2007, 09:13:00 AM »

QUOTE(Elbowz @ Jun 5 2007, 02:31 PM) *

I thought along the same lines as u buddy wasnt to sure weither it can be done but i think it is illegal or atleast if it is like changing a phones imei number then i think it probably is illegal but it wud sure get us back online and it needs a s**t load of soldering!


If it is like the Phone IMEI number then cloning is possible but illegal with mobiles i'm not sure about the rules with a console though, I don't see why this would be illegal.

The ID of the console is prob tired into the RJ45 Network port e.g "MAC address" as they are all meant to be unique. These also can be tracked and band\logged and traced over a network e.g the internet as it is encapsulated into Data packets along with your IP.

Has anyone tried changing the MAC address on a 360 network port \ spoofing it? might be a way around it :-)
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2007, 04:18:00 PM »

The bans aren't based on MAC address
It changes automatically going from wireless internet access to wired
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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2007, 07:09:00 PM »

This cant be done until we know where MS is storing the ban information...  it is probably tied to the CPU so swaping out a component wouldnt work.
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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2007, 07:25:00 PM »

Come on, haven't we had enough of this, there isn't a way to 'unban' your 360, and there never will be. Oh wait, there is... it's called $300 at a vendor!
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W0bbie

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« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2007, 10:30:00 AM »

QUOTE(The Prankster @ Jun 6 2007, 02:25 AM) *

Come on, haven't we had enough of this, there isn't a way to 'unban' your 360, and there never will be. Oh wait, there is... it's called $300 at a vendor!


LOL, or from what it sounds like you don't have the brain to work it out or be bothered to even try.

A wireless card also has a MAC address any network device has one including your Router or internet gateway.

If M$ were capturing the CPU ID then it wouldn't be hard to swap on out for another and to reprogram the Rom that compares the checksums, this was done in a similar method for the Original Xbox.

There is always away around something you just need to find it, which can take time. People once said 128bit encryption couldn't be broken ! funny i see it done now in under 60 seconds, M$ originally said Windows XP couldn't be hacked we know that also isn't true.

Why waste $300 when you can resolve the issues with some time and effort :-p Constructive comments only plz

Sometimes people look for the most complicated methods, when the answer is staring them straight in the face!
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« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2007, 07:59:00 PM »

Truepoker used to ban people by the mac address associated to the NIC card, But if u try and use the USB connectionon on your modem you still wont be able to connect to them , but if you use amac to change the mac then you can connect. So I think even if they (M$)  did ban macs,  that usuing a wireless adapter wouldnt help to connect.... but Im also a dumbass so i dont know lol.
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« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2007, 12:50:00 AM »

How many times does this have to be said, they have banned the console ID not the MAC changing the mac = still banned system
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« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 01:07:00 AM »

QUOTE(W0bbie @ Jun 6 2007, 12:30 PM) View Post
People once said 128bit encryption couldn't be broken ! funny i see it done now in under 60 seconds,
Can you provide anything to back this claim up?
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W0bbie

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« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2007, 03:51:00 AM »

QUOTE(throwingks @ Jun 7 2007, 08:43 AM) *

Can you provide anything to back this claim up?


As its off topic there would be no point to it, but both are possible, just have a look around.

The MAC was only a idea Hence the "topic title", your all so negative where is the love, how about instead of going, no it isn't possible, coming up with some more idea's?.

If it is the CPU ID of the console then I'm sure this can also be adapted / manipulated.

Do we know if anyone has tried swapping out the CPU from another console ? Is the ID checked before the console is booted and stops it from loading? If not and the console works "I wouldn't expect it to but you never know" then a CPU from a banded xbox could be transplanted with a new one out of say a bricked console and brought back onto live.

Windows XP uses the CPU ID and other hardware ID's to embed its self to the OS, hence when you change parts in your PC you have to run the ASR to repair to installation and change the Keys\ID Tags in the OS otherwise you are just going to enjoy the blue screen of death.

I would expect the technology for this to be very simlair to the ones being used in the Xbox if that is the case, as why would M$ they reinvent to wheel the have enough problems repairing bugs at it is.

This post has been edited by W0bbie: Jun 7 2007, 10:54 AM
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« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2007, 10:30:00 AM »

To say these type of things will never happen is a bit short sighted, after all the ps2 was considered unhackable at one point and custom firmware on the psp was said to be impossible.
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« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2007, 08:12:00 PM »

let me tell every1 a crazy story i ant put my xbox 360 for over a month so i thought id put ma old key back on which i did!!!!! but from there reading about ppl saying that the xbox 360 keeps a record of all games played weather there are backs up or normal....i had then restarted my consol over 12 times so that the memory reads only gears of war.....however people are also saying that the first people who was to get ban was ppl who had crack down however this was linked to halo 3 which cud be downloaded if you had crack down and this is where every1 got focked!!!!

so what im tryin to say is who ever still ant put theire consol on all you have to do is put the old key bk on the drive play normal games offline for abit go on live appect the update and then u should see tht xbox have not banned u!


and ppl let me tell u this if xbox 360 was hacked onces it will  be hacked again for the mean time go xconnect!
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The Prankster

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2007, 08:36:00 PM »

@W0bbie
Everything on the xbox 360 is 'married' and non-transferable. So if you swap the CPU, you'd have to swap the NAND, and swap the NAND, you'd also most likely have to swap the GPU with both of those, and the DVD drive, that's a lot of work, and if you had the assetts to do that anyway, just play on that xbox 360 you dimwit. Everything on the xbox 360 is per-box, so they have keys to eachother and such. The NAND is encrypted using the per-box fuseset values in SHA-1. M$ has all console ID's on THEIR servers, so you need a valid ID.

@jayfunk
That's a whole different realm than what this is, you guys are talking about trying to get back on live with a banned console, which is VERY out of out reach of goals.

@rss112
That whole post has absolutely nothing to do with what this whole thread is about.

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