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doobzilla

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BugTraq: Xbox360 Hypervisor Vulnerability - Unsigned Code on Kernel 45
« Reply #180 on: February 28, 2007, 05:37:00 PM »

Just one question now. What about those of us who have a still unopened 360 that is not the proper kernel? Where might one find the fall update disc or perhaps the 4548 kernel updater? Maybe the HD-DVD add-on installation disc has such a kernel? I know that there is more than just one question there, but I really only need one of them answered. By the way, you guys that seem to want to bicker and complain about whatever it is that you are complaining about, should probably stop, seeing as it is because of people like this hacker that you are able to post on a site called Xbox-Scene.com. Even if he did/didn't release this info to the big M, they would have shut the hole sooner or later, probably sooner. I'm not looking for a flame war, just pointing out the obvious. Thanks to anyone who helps me with my perplexing situation. One other thing, I already have two other xbox 360's that are never online and they somehow, "mysteriously," have the 4552 update. I say, "mysteriously," because I know exactly how they got updated. When you insert some games, they tell you that your console requires an update to play the game, well, well, well, if they don't just blow another damn efuse and update the kernel. This type of thing is why I have three 360s. I suppose that I have said my peace now.

EDIT: perhaps the proper kernel update could also be found on a game disc? I also now know what kernel I am running on my "bomb shelter 360" and it is lower than 4532 dagnabbit!

This post has been edited by doobzilla: Mar 1 2007, 01:51 AM
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mr2000jp

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« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2007, 05:42:00 PM »

when they talk about hypervisor they are talking about emulation , that means a big hole is found in the kernel of  the hard to crack security microsoft used in the xbox360 , with thta bug they can use it to be able to send commands an data to the 360 and it will run it , this way , home brews will be possible , editing of the real firmware will be possible , which means that the 360 will be wide open like the old xbox with lots of every thing on it made by fans and development teams
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« Reply #182 on: February 28, 2007, 06:02:00 PM »

i dont get it! after all that  work. the dude reports to MS.
For god sake people if you discover a hack, exploit the damn thing. dont show it off on a projector hidden by a hoodie and mask!
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« Reply #183 on: February 28, 2007, 06:21:00 PM »

Its not about exploiting the hole its finding the damed things in the first place.

Telling the vendor it was there allows the hold to be plugged so the game can start again.

Learn to understand that not everyone is out there hacking systems to exploit them, they are doing it to see if they can and once they figure out that yes its possible they are happy and move on.

Anyway like others have said, this might lead to nothing but it could lead to somthing. Right now its unless to 99.9% of the people who have posted in this topic
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« Reply #184 on: February 28, 2007, 06:21:00 PM »

Well it was bound to get back to M$ eventually. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

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pablo0024

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« Reply #185 on: February 28, 2007, 06:27:00 PM »

Question:

i have an xbox360 bought in february 2006, the console was NEVER connected online.

can i upgrade it to kernel  4532 ? is there any game with that update? or any cd with that update?

any1 knows?
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ybaig123

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« Reply #186 on: February 28, 2007, 06:49:00 PM »

QUOTE(pablo0024 @ Mar 1 2007, 01:27 AM) View Post

Question:

i have an xbox360 bought in february 2006, the console was NEVER connected online.

can i upgrade it to kernel  4532 ? is there any game with that update? or any cd with that update?

any1 knows?



That would be nba street vol3, since thats the only game i've gotten since gears
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mbazos

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« Reply #187 on: February 28, 2007, 07:12:00 PM »

For people wondering about xbox 360 kernel versions

Version    Release Date    Comment
2.0.1888.0    November 22, 2005    Original shipped version
2.0.2241.0    November 22, 2005    Update available at product launch
2.0.2255.0    January 30, 2006    -?
2.0.2258.0    March 2, 2006    -?
2.0.2858.0    June 05, 2006    -?
2.0.4532.0    October 31, 2006    Changelog. New identifier X with value 2BB7-8E09-0188-D795
2.0.4548.0    November 30, 2006    -?
2.0.4552.0    January 9, 2007    -?---->(fix the hole from 4532, 4548)
source: http://wiki.free60.org/XboxKernel


Also no one on here should be flaming this discovery.  The potential that this offers is huge.  Also if you have the newest kernel I wouldn't sweat it.  Once the 360 is compromised knowing how everything works will be much easier....which will lend itself to other exploits.  As far as I am concerned this is the biggest discovery since bunnie with the original xbox.

What I would like to see is a list of games that update to 4548 and 4552.  The last game that I played in my xbox was Gears of War and I have K:2.0.2858

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« Reply #188 on: February 28, 2007, 07:15:00 PM »

Hey, now my memory is a little bad on this since it was so long ago.

But does any of ye remember the first guy that hacked the original Xbox?.
He done it for some class report thing or something, this was before any other hack was out
For the Xbox.
But he busted the thing wide open.
And then guess what???.
He didn't release it, afaik he done the same thing this guy did and told his info to MS.
But guess what it opened the doors for other hackers, and the original Xbox got busted wide open.

So the way i see it it's pretty much the same deal here.
Yeah sure this hack is no good to 99% or so of us.
But its opening a door that MS is going to find very hard to close.
It's showing it can be done.
And other hackers will follow, and they will make it possible to run Unsigned code on any x363.
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« Reply #189 on: February 28, 2007, 07:40:00 PM »

QUOTE(d-range @ Mar 1 2007, 07:01 AM) View Post

Edit: what's up with all the german crap in this thread btw? Isn't this topic moderated??

It is.  

But it's not against the rules to post in a language other than English now and then, even though the admins have made it clear this is at the end of the day an English language board.
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« Reply #190 on: February 28, 2007, 08:04:00 PM »

The fall update can be downloaded from here.  It is the original upgrade disc for the hd dvd-rom.  

Caster.
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mbazos

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« Reply #191 on: February 28, 2007, 08:01:00 PM »

QUOTE(zero129 @ Mar 1 2007, 03:15 AM) View Post

Yeah sure this hack is no good to 99% or so of us.


I don't think so, if you have not played on xbox live chances are your xbox kernel is either one of the exploitable version or earlier prior to it.  Assuming you have not played on xbox live and have played Gears of War you probably have K:2.0.2858.  This hack is useful to a lot of people in the scene.
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« Reply #192 on: February 28, 2007, 08:09:00 PM »

QUOTE(mbazos @ Mar 1 2007, 04:08 AM) View Post

I don't think so, if you have not played on xbox live chances are your xbox kernel is either one of the exploitable version or earlier prior to it.  Assuming you have not played on xbox live and have played Gears of War you probably have K:2.0.2858.  This hack is useful to a lot of people in the scene.

Not if they have played any game that went gold after 1/9.
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zero129

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« Reply #193 on: February 28, 2007, 08:43:00 PM »

QUOTE(mbazos @ Mar 1 2007, 05:08 AM) View Post

I don't think so, if you have not played on xbox live chances are your xbox kernel is either one of the exploitable version or earlier prior to it.  Assuming you have not played on xbox live and have played Gears of War you probably have K:2.0.2858.  This hack is useful to a lot of people in the scene.


Thats why i said 99% or "so" of us.

Remember Xbox live is not the only way to get them updates wink.gif.

But ether way something good is going to come out of this.
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« Reply #194 on: February 28, 2007, 08:51:00 PM »

QUOTE(zero129 @ Mar 1 2007, 03:15 AM) View Post

Hey, now my memory is a little bad on this since it was so long ago.

But does any of ye remember the first guy that hacked the original Xbox?.
He done it for some class report thing or something, this was before any other hack was out
For the Xbox.
But he busted the thing wide open.
And then guess what???.
He didn't release it, afaik he done the same thing this guy did and told his info to MS.
But guess what it opened the doors for other hackers, and the original Xbox got busted wide open.

So the way i see it it's pretty much the same deal here.
Yeah sure this hack is no good to 99% or so of us.
But its opening a door that MS is going to find very hard to close.
It's showing it can be done.
And other hackers will follow, and they will make it possible to run Unsigned code on any x363.


think the same. the door is open. tell it. ms close the door. now u can see, what ms is doing. the hack was a long time, befor ms closed the door. 2 kernel updates to look it works. the last update. to look what can ms do.

when sombody want to know, how it works, check one update after update.
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