QUOTE(Millenia1x @ Feb 28 2007, 04:15 AM)
but will we be required to downgrade the system to use this
well, this is xbox ALL OVER
Of course:
Xbox = xbox
360 = a full circle (or "all over" again)
QUOTE(NumarkTTX1 @ Feb 28 2007, 06:02 AM)
3 cheers to ms!
HIP HIP HOORAY! HIP HIP HOORAY!
i would love to see hombrew on 360... but as soon as this bad boy is cracked the ban hammer is comin down HARD!
That's only two cheers
Anywayz, yes. Just like the original xbox, expect to be banned from XBL if your console is running UNSIGNED CODE. For some reason, the vast majority of people think XBL bans for the X1s was over "your system is modded; you must be a pirate" concept, when if you look from a company standpoint, it's more of a "your system is allowing you to run ANY code, and is unfair to the popular user because it enables you to cheat on the same game that little timmy plays normally" type of concept.
QUOTE(openxdkman @ Feb 28 2007, 10:43 AM)
Mmm, I'm a bit disappointed. I was hoping hacker could wait for release of 65nm model...
Current model lifespan is a bit small for doing interesting things on long term... Whatever...
Current model lifespan is a bit small? There's over 10.5 million units of the "current model" sold...
QUOTE(t10 @ Feb 28 2007, 01:35 PM)
LMAO, almost every post starts with "I'm no... hacker/cracker/chip designer etc" then adds some dumb suggestion. Talk about redundancy.
Anyhoo props to the original hacker, he is a smart fellah. Too bad for us though he likes money over prison.
I was thinking the same thing (I could see someone chiming in another post "I'm no pirate..."
(BTW, I am in no way condoning piracy, violation of TOS, or any other bullshit before any of you think I am. Read my sig.
As far as the "money over prison" part, I really don't see how hacking the xbox in this manner could land you in jail. If you purchase the Xbox 360, is it not *yours*? I don't recall signing something at the time of purchase which states that I am leasing said property. I paid cash, and got my system. If I decide I want to crash this 360 (which I legally purchased and own until I relinquesh it by whatever means at whatever time) in order to run whatever I want; I should be allowed. The only thing I could see as being illegal about it is if the means to do it were illegal (ie, you must used a XDK or something that should be unavailable to you, thus making the process involve theft somewhere *note* Stealing is wrong, and not condoned by me or my subsidiaries which I incorrectly spelled
).
QUOTE(mojoman @ Feb 28 2007, 03:14 PM)
You guys are in Denial. How does this help us at all. Somone found a hole and quickly told microshit. If at all anything, what we should be doing is, insult this traitor, I mean people are painfully looking for ways to crack this thing, and what does he do when he finds this. He goes straight to the microshits. The guy is a big fool.
I say you are the fool. Going to MS is in no way that bad a thing. He simply let them know one of their errors, which could actually cause problems (potentially) with a random game, which would lessen certain users' experiences. It's still exploitable with that version, and a blown efuse doesn't mean others can't enjoy it. Perhaps they can crash that version xbox 360 kernel and obtain all kinds of information that will enable them to hack any 360 by other means. Perhaps it will be possible to put one of the kernels on a chip and somehow circumvent the necessity of an efuse. Perhaps something completely different may happen. The keyword here is "perhaps", and as it stands, not telling MS about the flaws in the aforementioned kernels would not gaurantee they wouldn't have fixed it anyway, and also does not mean that the door was slammed in anyones face. It simply means that if you think that, you have a lot more to learn before you bring something to the modding community.
QUOTE(Chamrock @ Feb 28 2007, 03:42 PM)
How can MS legally release updates that physically blow efuses without approval of the owner? That would be considered as intruding and should be punished to maximum extent, even if we have to bomb MS offices.
Because TMK, it doesn't physically alter the system. an efuse is an electronic signal similar to a "flag" in the programming realm.
QUOTE(Mike Bowler @ Feb 28 2007, 10:43 PM)
You know i think some people have forgotten that if the original xbox was never hacked then it wouldn't have sold as good as it did so with that in mind i think M$ are playing a game of cat and mouse until the 360 loses appeal then they'll deliberately leave a hole in the last firmware which will allow the 360 to be hacked and homebrew put in place and then they'll come out with a new console which will probably sell like f*ck along with the 360 selling in the background because people want to use homebrew on it.
Actually I think the original xbox didn't sell as well as they projected because of the severe lack of japanese support compared to any other system. The sales picked up from the modding community because xbox was by far the most modable and customizable console, as it is more or less a pre-packaged PC in a MS-branded case.
QUOTE(Iriez @ Mar 2 2007, 06:46 AM)
Uhm, obviously you dont understand the intellectual property rights here. You officially do not OWN your xbox360. According to the license agreement presented by microsoft, you are in a sense, simply leasing the xbox360, and they own FULL intellectual property of the xbox360, and can make ANY adjustments to it, at ANY time they want.
Hope that settles your rant.
The license agreement that is never signed and notarized, thus no court could hold it more binding than a verbal agreement with no witnesses.
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