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[HoRnEyDvL]

Instead of ppl waiting for this person to release it why dont you guys try to replicate it get a group of ppl that have some knowledge & see if u can do it.

[aholmes187]

i do have a few questions....
1. being able to boot a linux kernel/mac os.....you dont just put a linux install disk in....custom drivers have to be written correct? ie video, sound?   like on xbox one running linux, didnt most programs have to be edited in order to run?
2.  there is no microsoft sdk out in the wild correct? im not talking about the 99 doller a year XNA. so we would be unable to write and compile our own code to run under the ms kernel, we would have to write for the linux kernel?
3. to get a useable version of linux up and running with useable programs we would need harddrive support?

im not flaming....im just asking questions.

[x-s]

interestin about that pcb is that the 360s conected to usb (4 wire) not  to TX/RX so cant have anything to do with FPGA

[Morlok8k]

QUOTE(x-s @ Jan 2 2007, 11:59 PM)

interestin about that pcb is that the 360s conected to usb (4 wire) not  to TX/RX so cant have anything to do with FPGA

now that is interesting!

[xuoq]

It looks more like its soldered to the pcb just the way it's lying on the xbox.  It would have to be an extremely flexible cable to just lay like that if it was plugged in and in my experience those cables aren't that flexible.  Just a guess though.  That white bezel on the dvd drive looks much sweeter than silver though.

[Sedna]

one interesting question is also.

why did he plug in the controller if he did not need it anyway? maybe something went wrong and he wanted to show more?

[TAz00]

Or, the game wont continue without a controller....

[Cappadonna]

Not to burst anyones bubble.......but.  This looked like he was running a screen saver on the laptop he had under the table.  Don't get me wrong, I'd love for this to be real.  I just need to see more than a screen saver to not call BS on this one.

[Beko]

In my opinion this looks -not- like a screensaver from his laptop, because - if you look at the high-resolution picture - there are graphic errors (diagonal lines). I would guess that a screensaver would not leave those lines on the screen. I think he quickly programmed this moving-picture-thing to show that he is capable of programming the xbox 360. The diagonal lines are a side-effect of not having programmed properly.
 

[snyder80]

Well, i read the whole bunch of infos already posted. Here are some new thought (and yes, i DON´T have a xbox360 till its gone "open source")

The MS service team must/or should at least be able to connect to the x360 for diagnostics, right?

What if they use a similar pcb like anonymous did, to run some infosoftware on a repairstation-PC reading the memory from the x360. Similar to a connection where u can flash the old xecutor2 chips via paralelport.

Anonymous maybe found a debug-thing in konkong and DID tell the x360 to turn into debug/devkit/analyse mode where u can send data to the x360 wich are daisychained to the AVoutput.

Im a noob in hacking so in short:

He needed the Laptop to get some kind of bufferoverflow/debug mode on the x360 via the pcb from the laptop  and sent the OSx/linux video from the laptop to the AVoutput of his x360...

Happy hacking   ,
Snyder80

PS: IF he partly faked, could he maybe "just" added a executable-link in the kingkongshaders for the Linux-OSX-screensaver he made in XNA?!?

[lufcfan]

QUOTE(TAz00 @ Jan 3 2007, 10:32 AM)

Or, the game wont continue without a controller....

Spot on... watch the vid again closely, and you'll see that when the Ubisoft animation finishes and the 'King Kong' splash screen comes on, it quickly prompts to press 'A'. From here, the little 'loading' message appeared in the bottom right corner, the screen goes blank and then the 'Linux Coming Soon' animation pops into view...

[OpticNurv]

QUOTE(censor @ Jan 3 2007, 05:59 AM)

when will you guys finally understand that this is NOT presented by the CCC! it's NOT an official CCC lecture, just some sort of soapbox for everybody - held at an CCC event.

If somebody from M$ showed up there and would have showcased Windows Vista, you wouldn't say that the CCC wrote a new Operating System, or do you?

dont dwell on that shit, if it was shown at a hacker convention then it was more than legit

legit enough to where i would say i'm willing to bet on my life that its the real deal.

who cares who made it, it's been done, now all we have to do is play the waiting game, i have $50 saying it's leaked before march  

[kaigoh]

So, in theory, the 360 security systems prevent buffer overruns; but what if Mr A has found an exploit and simply executed some crude code? That USB stick looks the deal, there is the possibility that he has got some sort of memory card \ hdd emulator running on that laptop.

I didn't notice any storage medium in the video (memory card, hdd), I didn't think King Kong would even get as far as the menu without somewhere to cache its files or create a save game? It would explain the long loading time anyway.

As far as swapping the video source, I think we can rule that out because, as has already been mentioned, the projector would have definatly picked it up.

Those lines on the screen look suspiciously like the graphics buffer wasn't being refreshed correctly, I suspect a hack involving shaders would definatly leave artifacts on the screen.

If this does turn out to be the shit, I'm not sure how far we can expect to exploit the console. I read somewhere that the 360's processor can "fix" itself. So I wounder how long it would take M$ to simply send a new update a destroy what may have been achieved. Lets face it, 60% of 360s are plugged into Live! so its not going to take much for Microsoft to patch a large majority of consoles in a short period of time.

Sorry if I'm mumbling, had an early start today!  

[d-range]

QUOTE(snyder80 @ Jan 3 2007, 01:37 PM)

The MS service team must/or should at least be able to connect to the x360 for diagnostics, right?

What if they use a similar pcb like anonymous did, to run some infosoftware on a repairstation-PC reading the memory from the x360. Similar to a connection where u can flash the old xecutor2 chips via paralelport.

Anonymous maybe found a debug-thing in konkong and DID tell the x360 to turn into debug/devkit/analyse mode where u can send data to the x360 wich are daisychained to the AVoutput.

Im a noob in hacking so in short:

He needed the Laptop to get some kind of bufferoverflow/debug mode on the x360 via the pcb from the laptop  and sent the OSx/linux video from the laptop to the AVoutput of his x360...

Quite possible, except the 'daisy-chained to the AV output' part... There's definitely some custom code running on the 360, the image is not coming from his laptop.

If I'd have to take a guess, I think a combination of 2 things might have happened. 1) Someone found a way to disable/trick the hypervisor to disable memory monitoring and mandatory encryption of executable code. This would be the part of the hack working through the debug port he's accessing with his laptop. 2) A shader exploit was written which overwrites some memory used by the King-Kong demo with the screensaver thingy. This only works with the hypervisor disabled. The modified shader is already on the King-Kong disc he's booting.

When the King-Kong disc has booted to the menu he sends the required bootstrap commands to the debug port, which disables the hypervisor and maybe forces the CPU to a specific part of the KK executable. From there the exploited shader is invoked which overwrites some unused part of main memory with his 'screensaver'. Last but not least the CPU is instructed to jump to the unsigned screensaver code. Of course this is just speculation... Maybe the hack doesn't even use a shader and he just uploads executable code directly through the USB interface... But then I cannot explain what the KK disc is used for...

Either way, I'm getting more and more convinced this might be real... It's going to be interesting times for sure. The big question is: if it's real. will the hole be plugged before the new 360 models are ready? I think if MS knows about the nature of this breach it would be pretty easy to just make the required changes to the new 60nm CPU design that's coming... Or just blow the debug interfaces completely after manufacturing...

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