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[snyder80]

Just some thoughts and speculations:

Well according to what i posted before in this thread, some questions to the non-noobs in hacking/electrics:

1: Do retail x360 still need/have some jtag(?) repair-service connection on the mobo?

2: If they do (probably they have: http://forums.xbox-s...owtopic=468242) the exact connection points are still unknown?

3: if they were known, could u use that tiny pcb, 4wires at the right places from the pcb and maybe do a TRST (Test ReSeT) for emulating/rebuilding a M$ service-remote?

4: Could this set the hypervisor into a sleep-mode aka. OFF?

5: Would only EX-M$ in x360 department know the exact connection spots?

6: Would you mask yourself if you were an EX-M$ showing some breaking news in x360 hacking?

7: Would you still need that kingkong (demo?) game? - NO, you wouldnt and this is where i recon my post is wrong!!  

[nickolasj80]

QUOTE(snyder80 @ Jan 4 2007, 04:55 AM)

1: Do retail x360 still need/have some jtag(?) repair-service connection on the mobo?

Almost definately.  When they get returns for warranty repairs, I'm sure they use them.  It would be hard to believe, if there is a problem on the board or with hardcode, they just swap out for a new one.

[Drunkn_Munky]

QUOTE(jcdenton2003 @ Jan 4 2007, 01:41 AM)

Everyone run out and buy king kong lol!

Retail won't work. I'm afraid we're forced to pirate it At least King Kong may not be the worst game ever any more.

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6: Would you mask yourself if you were an EX-M$ showing some breaking news in x360 hacking?

Who said anything about ex-ms? You would be more inclined to mask yourself if you still worked for MS. Unless he's protecting his identity for legal reasons... or he could be Bill himself.

[jabroniekilla]

not to say this isnt possible yet, but when I watched the video, I laughed out loud and said "that's it?"
I am not a computer genius so I am sure there are a lot of things that "could" be going on in that video.  I just want to say I will believe it when I see it.  When I see some of the members on here with proof of it working, I will then believe it.

[x-s]

QUOTE(snyder80 @ Jan 4 2007, 12:55 PM)

Just some thoughts and speculations:

Well according to what i posted before in this thread, some questions to the non-noobs in hacking/electrics:

1: Do retail x360 still need/have some jtag(?) repair-service connection on the mobo?

2: If they do (probably they have: http://forums.xbox-s...owtopic=468242) the exact connection points are still unknown?

3: if they were known, could u use that tiny pcb, 4wires at the right places from the pcb and maybe do a TRST (Test ReSeT) for emulating/rebuilding a M$ service-remote?

4: Could this set the hypervisor into a sleep-mode aka. OFF?

5: Would only EX-M$ in x360 department know the exact connection spots?

6: Would you mask yourself if you were an EX-M$ showing some breaking news in x360 hacking?

7: Would you still need that kingkong (demo?) game? - NO, you wouldnt and this is where i recon my post is wrong!!  

J8C1
CPU JTAG Header

J9A2
XDK DC Power

J2B1
XDK Debug Header

J1D2
XDK Debug Header #2


J2D1
Southbridge Header


J2D2
GPU Header


J5C2
GPU SPI EEPROM Header


J5C1
ANA Header

[Lamer123]

For all those people buying King Kong, It will probably not help you.

You would have to burn your own King Kong disc with modified shader code and have a firmware flash to boot the code.

I dont think we will see any 007 style softmodding until the core security of the 360 is broken and they can investigate hardware and software flaws in more depth.

[gothi]

QUOTE(microsnakey @ Jan 4 2007, 07:31 PM)

A Month I cant wait that long.
I want it now  

Ben's about as likely to know as much about when info is going to be released as my toaster.

Just because someone says they know something doesn't mean they do and lets face it, a week to a month is a pretty wide guess that anyone, even a 7 year old, could make without any knowledge of the subject at hand.

If there's more info to be released it'll be released when that person is ready and not before.  And most certainly not when some random on a forum says so.

btw, my toaster says 'Warning, may get hot' which I have interpreted as meaning 'more hot info in about a month or so'

[jcdenton2003]

I agree, Bens just some kid looking for attention lol. All that Header information but nothing to be exploited! Whens that 360 security conf anyways??

[vax11780]

QUOTE(snyder80 @ Jan 4 2007, 03:55 AM)

Just some thoughts and speculations:

Well according to what i posted before in this thread, some questions to the non-noobs in hacking/electrics:

1: Do retail x360 still need/have some jtag(?) repair-service connection on the mobo?

Yes. JTAG is used for many different things including chip testing, board testing, and in-circuit emulation. The in-circuit emulation may be disabled by an eFuse to prevent security breaches. Board testing isn't very useful in attacking a system, but the chip testing is. Think of every storage element (flip-flop) in the chip connected as a huge shift register that you could load with whatever values you want. Properly timed you can change the result of a comparison (calculated key == stored key?)

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2: If they do (probably they have: http://forums.xbox-s...owtopic=468242) the exact connection points are still unknown?

3: if they were known, could u use that tiny pcb, 4wires at the right places from the pcb and maybe do a TRST (Test ReSeT) for emulating/rebuilding a M$ service-remote?

Yes.

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4: Could this set the hypervisor into a sleep-mode aka. OFF?

No. The hypervisor is a fundamental building block that everything in the system is built on top of. If you remove the hypervisor you can't access the disk, video, dvd, etc. What needs to be done is convince the hypervisor the XEX file it just loaded has a valid signature. From then on the XEX will run as normal and can show pretty pictures on the screen.

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5: Would only EX-M$ in x360 department know the exact connection spots?

No. Draw a schematic of the various chip interconnects, and test each one in turn until you find a TAP controller.  I've got the IEEE JTAG spec around here somewhere, but a few minutes in the IEEE webstore would give the number of the spec to buy. Assuming they didn't disguise the JTAG port.

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6: Would you mask yourself if you were an EX-M$ showing some breaking news in x360 hacking?

There are so many levels of pain MS could apply to an ex-employee nobody would be stupid enough to pull a stunt like that no matter how good the disguise was. Get three buddies to cover their faces and put hoodies on then walk around a bit. I'd lay odds you could tell the apart from the way they walk and gesture.

Somebody knows who Hoodie is, but probably are in on the show (or scam?) and haven't squealed yet.

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7: Would you still need that kingkong (demo?) game? - NO, you wouldnt and this is where i recon my post is wrong!!  

I haven't seen the game. Can anyone tell from the startup screens if it is the demo or the full game?

VAX

[Textbook]

QUOTE(djboo @ Jan 4 2007, 10:38 AM)

if anyone knows exactly what went on, i bet its this gal:

b9punk



it makes sense that shes the girl helping him - the piccy looks a little different, but thats probably just coz shes got the myspace angles.

Good idea.  I know.. it's a long stretch , but it may be worth it.

Google "b9punk" .. first result is .. http://www.jennifergergen.com

Same person?  Let's see ...

Google "jennifer gergen lightning talks"  .. bingo!

Scroll to the bottom, under coordination, you see "Jennifer "b9punk" Gergen"

You have her site, on which she lists her resume, her location, how to contact her, etc..

She lives in Brooklyn, NY.

[Drunkn_Munky]

QUOTE(vax11780 @ Jan 5 2007, 06:40 AM)

There are so many levels of pain MS could apply to an ex-employee nobody would be stupid enough to pull a stunt like that no matter how good the disguise was. Get three buddies to cover their faces and put hoodies on then walk around a bit. I'd lay odds you could tell the apart from the way they walk and gesture.

Somebody knows who Hoodie is, but probably are in on the show (or scam?) and haven't squealed yet.
I haven't seen the game. Can anyone tell from the startup screens if it is the demo or the full game?

VAX

You're right (just like you can often identify who people are from a long way away) but Microsoft is a huge company and it would be very hard/risky for them to do anything without proof.

Thanks for the answers, very helpful.

As for the demo vs game, I have the game and the load up screen is pretty much the same, but I'm going off memory.

[willy134uk]

he could of modified the king kong game to switch at the menu to a bounching screen saver or between the the king kong menu and the linux logo he did a lot of messing behind the 360 he could of unpluged the aux plugs and put them into something else already displaying the bouncing screen saver who knows lets hope its all genuin

[OpticNurv]

the anticipation is killing me, still waiting on a 360 XNA dev license...

[Zeze21]

QUOTE(willy134uk @ Jan 5 2007, 07:26 PM)

he could of modified the king kong game to switch at the menu to a bounching screen saver or between the the king kong menu and the linux logo he did a lot of messing behind the 360 he could of unpluged the aux plugs and put them into something else already displaying the bouncing screen saver who knows lets hope its all genuin

this forum would be perfect if people would start reading before posting...

[yivkX360]

Other than running homebrew what do you think some neat features of 360 linux will be?