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[SharkUW]

QUOTE(plonkman @ Apr 21 2006, 07:35 AM)

shut up

Member since '03. 2nd post. What was your first word. 'cookie' or 'f**k'?

[tiavo]

From what it says I think that most likely it will be some kind of firmware mod that will alow larger hard drives and/or a DVD firmware. Im sure MS will attempt counter any DVD firmware hacks using the full extent of there resources, but they may let an HDD capacity mod go unpunished, but really who knows.

[plonkman]

1st word "your" closely followed by "momma".

 

[TheSpecialist]

QUOTE(PedrosPad @ Apr 21 2006, 10:25 AM)

Is it me?  Wasn't all the detail in the X-S news post from Devil360 already known information?   In fact they even cite the original sources (which at least is respectful).

No, it isn't you Theres is nothing new in their post, just a summary of old info. Besides, I find their statement about a FPGA card between the dvd and the 360 very odd ... The biggest problem is that  the authentication related data is encrypted. So, if you want to mod the communication, you'll have to decrypt the packets, mod the info and encrypt them again. While this probably is possible, it's not easy at all.

So, to me it seems they didn't really think about this and are just posting some fake info (about decapping chips etc). I could be wrong of course, but I find it very odd that they claim all kinds of stuff without posting ANY new info at all ...

QUOTE(tiavo @ Apr 21 2006, 02:45 PM)

but they may let an HDD capacity mod go unpunished, but really who knows.

You can't mod the capacity, since the capacity is 'signed'. So you can only use signatures supplied by MS and since they've currently only signed 20 gb's HD's, we can't use any bigger sizes, until MS starts to sell bigger HD's themselves (and we can use that signature)

[sjohn]

QUOTE(TheSpecialist @ Apr 21 2006, 02:11 PM)

You can't mod the capacity, since the capacity is 'signed'. So you can only use signatures supplied by MS and since they've currently only signed 20 gb's HD's, we can't use any bigger sizes, until MS starts to sell bigger HD's themselves (and we can use that signature)

Just to clarify, are you saying that it is currently possible to switch the MS 20gb, for a standard 20gb? Or are you just saying that if we had the signature, we'd have to have the signature of a larger drive in order to use a larger drive in our xbox.

I just don't want anyone jumping to any type of conclusion of something said in the wrong way. Thanks for all of the support in the scene.

[JohnnyVegas]

so we are getting a history lesson from Devil360 now?  WTF??

So again, Devil360, what is your fucking point? Seems to be another calculated ploy to get interest in their site. If your not going to offer anything worthwhile then just STFU. What a waste of time for everyone here.

I would hope if X-S has anything to do with this they would at the very least vouch for this sites creditability. Otherwise, I would suggest just ignore this so others do not do this in the future.

Hell I might do it now just for fun... LOL

[krims0n]

To me it sounds like a device that will sit between the motherboard and dvd drive and "interpret" some of the commands to allow for playing of backups.

While just doing the same thing as the firmware hack this is actually quite a bit better. If there is a device in between that is intercepting and answering a couple requests on it's own and sending the rest to the firmware, then the firmware never actually needs to be hacked. The software on the chip can be programmed from scratch and no copyrights are violated. If no copyrights are violated it can be sold/distributed legally and installed legally.

[Joergen]

I think its inappropriate to use Bunnies full name to promote your baseless PR spin. They are using his name only to give some credibility to their words and to associate themsleves with the proven record of that person.

I also look forward to what lies ahead.

[PedrosPad]

QUOTE(krims0n @ Apr 21 2006, 03:42 PM)

To me it sounds like a device that will sit between the motherboard and dvd drive and "interpret" some of the commands to allow for playing of backups.

I agree that this is exactly what their news post is alluding to, but as TS points out, there are seemingly insurmountable problems with this idea.  The primary one being that the traffic on the cable is encrypted.

I guess that it’s conceivable that the mobo could negotiate encryption keys with the mod-board, and the mod-board independently negotiate encryption keys with the DVD-Rom drive, and act as a true man-in-the-middle (decrypting, interpreting, and re-encrypting the traffic), but I have my doubts this is possible.

PS. This exact notion was discussed here only the day before the Devil360 press release.  

[PedrosPad]

QUOTE(sjohn @ Apr 21 2006, 03:25 PM)

Just to clarify, are you saying that it is currently possible to switch the MS 20gb, for a standard 20gb? Or are you just saying that if we had the signature, we'd have to have the signature of a larger drive in order to use a larger drive in our xbox.

I just don't want anyone jumping to any type of conclusion of something said in the wrong way. Thanks for all of the support in the scene.

This is OT, but...
Official M$ HDDs are shipped with a pre-populated 'security sector' (for want of better term).  This sector contains the HDD’s unique serial number, its capacity, is encrypted, and M$ signed.  The X360 console checks this!

With no knowledge of the M$ signing key, no way currently exists to generate this data ourselves, preventing anything other than true M$ drives from being recognised by the X360.

[n8thegr8]

and besides, if you already have a working product, why the hell would you wait 2 months to release it? I mean seriously, if they released a working product right now, people would eat it up, I certainly know I would buy one. Yet another reason they are more than likely fakes.

[downlowfunk]

QUOTE(n8thegr8 @ Apr 21 2006, 04:44 PM)

and besides, if you already have a working product, why the hell would you wait 2 months to release it? I mean seriously, if they released a working product right now, people would eat it up, I certainly know I would buy one. Yet another reason they are more than likely fakes.

well..   Being the devils that they are. they probably want to stick to the theme.  plus theres final revisisons and mass Production and shipping from china.   Remember the 360 launch, or when Executer chips were on back order??  

You have a good point though,  why not make a move when the streets are itchin for their Modchip fix, no one else has the goods.      Im excited, about all these developments.

[bubbathemaster]

I'm still sceptical, that 666 thing really sounds like an hoax, and they made up this news upon nothing. No, there's nothing new on this post. They just picked up some stuff here and there and built a news.
Maybe they are suggesting they are working on a hack at the end of the news, but well... Dunno what to think about it.

[nachomans]

The "chip" between mobo and dvd drive....mmm....sega saturn anyone?
What a couple of...
Just make some technical info, like thespecialist did before...
till now, this is completely BS...

[Dasoldier]

QUOTE(JustinT9669 @ Apr 21 2006, 04:42 AM)

me 2  

Yea, I didn' quite pull any form of new information out of that big long post?    Just restated things that are already well known.