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[frostyfire03530]

A couple of points in their post that stood out in my mind:

Anyway what is your aim ?
If you wish to run Linux on your 360 then you have a problem...
What about collecting the route, IP address, crypto keys and some more information from the console at this time?
What could happen if M$ would have made a hardware mistake?

They allude to knowing the advantages of the dvd-firmware hack, yet still post more information that leads me to believe that they are not focusing on something along those lines. Perhaps, with the information they lead up to and say will post more about later, the hynix memory that has the boot code in it, it could be a mod that will be physically alterable to the system hardware and will somehow enable dev workings in the 360. IDK, thats just my opinion from what I got from the post.... I just can't see from a writers sense, that presenting this in an agrumented form, that it would be about a 360 dvd mod. It's something deeper in the system's workings

[kowrip]

QUOTE(krims0n @ Apr 21 2006, 03:42 PM)

To me it sounds like a device that will sit between the motherboard and dvd drive and "interpret" some of the commands to allow for playing of backups.

While just doing the same thing as the firmware hack this is actually quite a bit better. If there is a device in between that is intercepting and answering a couple requests on it's own and sending the rest to the firmware, then the firmware never actually needs to be hacked. The software on the chip can be programmed from scratch and no copyrights are violated. If no copyrights are violated it can be sold/distributed legally and installed legally.

This type of device also opens up the possibility of emulating the DVD.  It would be totally wild if a hard drive could be hooked up to such a device and the individual game ISOs loaded onto it from another PC.  Such a device could be almost as good as upgrading the hard drive on the original Xbox !

[Moltdar]

that last post about streaming the games from your PC, Gamecube style would be totally wicked!!!

[brywalker]

QUOTE(Moltdar @ Apr 21 2006, 06:41 PM)

that last post about streaming the games from your PC, Gamecube style would be totally wicked!!!

Oh GOD lets hope not. They worked TERRIBLY. The GC went NOWHERE until the Viper came out. Period.

So far, I call BS until I see something for real. I can tell you this for sure:

1) Do the mod, no more Live. They couldn't get around it on the security joke that is the XBOX, they DEFINITELY won't be able to do it for the 360. The firmware mod really doesn't count - it wasn't released and came 5 years late. Who knows if Live can detect it on XBOX at this point?

2) If it is a chip that goes inbetween the drive and the board, be prepared to update it like crazy. Until you can boot unsigned code - you can't patch games. So for every security update on the games to detect the chip, there has to be new code put on the chip.

Personally, Live is something that I didn't give 2 shits about for XBOX, but for 360 I can't live without. If a *REAL* mod comes out, I am there, but on a 2nd 360.

[toothe360]

i dont think it seems like a con or load of crap. i think if i were developing anything to do with the 360 i would keep it as safe as possible until i release it. as you all say m$ can update the console. so if i were develping some sort of device that interes with the internals of the console m$ may be able to stop it being fitted/ flashed etc, but they would need a few weeks. just a possibility.

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[manu_xl]

QUOTE(SharkUW @ Apr 21 2006, 02:42 PM)

Member since '03. 2nd post. What was your first word. 'cookie' or 'f**k'?

member since november and already 160 useless posts

[onge]

After reading the thread.. what exactly is our conclusion here..?  That these guys are probably not a hoax?

[ILLusions0fGrander]

i think we have officialy moved from the digital age to the hype age.

[quenlin]

I think the most realistic scenario we have to look forward to is that someone will duplicate the hacked firmware, people will be able to use the team xcuter or some such device to update the 360 dvd drive firmware, and then you'll only be able to play backups that are either patched or have dashboard updates disabled, so that there's no chance of having your firmware or dashboard updated. So no more Live or playing originals, but theoretically backups will run for as long as you can keep the unit from being updated. That will probably come first until someone develops a modchip. It is inevitable in any event.

Oh, and on an unrelated note, the spelling and grammar on this board is disgusting. Not being able to write properly is just as embarrasing as not knowing how to tie your own shoe or to take a shower. Anyone who writes like a third grader should be humiliated.

[Modchip-Man]

Hey all,
I live right around the corner from that place that was mentioned ( 15111 N. Hayden Rd) 13 miles to be exact. When i can get someone to drive me over there, what do you think i would find? Is that just one of the godaddy nodes, or is that the actual devil 360 registration place. I can check it out if you guys need me to.
Peace!
M-M

[psxpirate1]

Yes please stake this place out.. let us know

[kowrip]

QUOTE(quenlin @ Apr 21 2006, 09:25 PM)

I think the most realistic scenario we have to look forward to is that someone will duplicate the hacked firmware, people will be able to use the team xcuter or some such device to update the 360 dvd drive firmware, and then you'll only be able to play backups that are either patched or have dashboard updates disabled, so that there's no chance of having your firmware or dashboard updated. So no more Live or playing originals, but theoretically backups will run for as long as you can keep the unit from being updated. That will probably come first until someone develops a modchip. It is inevitable in any event.

Avoiding updates might not be totally necessary.  Somebody may release a device that holds both the original and the hacked firmware.  In that case, it wouldn't matter how many updates were issued.  They could just be applied to the legitimate one while the hacked one is doing all the work.  I don't know exactly how hard this would be to implement, but you can't rule it out.  Apparently, we now understand a lot about the protocol between the drive and the console.  In that case, the whole thing can probably even be emulated.  Let's go hacks !  My offline Xbox 360 is waiting for something sweet !  

[frOOt lOOps]

perhaps there symbol is supposed to look like a dvd? that representing the loading of burned backups. have a look at their symbol.

[Lamer123]

I think the domain registration address is probally fake

GOOGLE MAPS

It looks like it is registered to an airport

Edit: a stripmall next to the airport