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[jaynigs]

QUOTE(Alex548 @ Mar 20 2006, 11:11 PM)

You're kidding right?

M$ is losing money on every xbox 360 they sell (just like xbox 1). Their only revenue is with games, accessories, and XBL subscriptions.

People pirating games means M$ will be losing money on game sales. If they get more people on XBL, they'll have to spend more money on upgrading their servers to handle the extra load. Now, where the hell did you come up with that lame statement above?

Boo hoo, M$ are losing money on each xbox sold, but are making it back and then some with the interest on their huge bank balance.

They could make the xbox 360 free and it wouldn't hurt the company in the slightest.

[john101]

thanks, yes i love the name "fatasspanda"

[Alex548]

QUOTE(jaynigs @ Mar 20 2006, 05:47 PM)

Boo hoo, M$ are losing money on each xbox sold, but are making it back and then some with the interest on their huge bank balance.

They could make the xbox 360 free and it wouldn't hurt the company in the slightest.

Did you even bother reading what my statement was in response to?
I'm not sitting here crying over M$ getting screwed... I was merely correcting someone who was obviously misinformed.

[sgr215]

Bill Gates might not get to buy his tropical island paradise until next week thanks to this hack. Is this the world we really want to live in?! I think not.  

[juan_2006]

QUOTE(sgr215 @ Mar 21 2006, 03:07 AM)

Bill Gates might not get to buy his tropical island paradise until next week thanks to this hack. Is this the world we really want to live in?! I think not.  

Hahahahah lol fuck bill that rich bastard. You know forbes magazine gave him the richest man i the world tittle again for the 12th consecutive time.........lol i hope someone can fraud him or something.

[echto]

Could the tool Team Xecuter is talking about be used to replace a broken DVD drive?  If the 360 is expecting a specific dvd drive wouldn't it be possible to back up your original dvd drive's firmware and use it to write it to another similar dvd drive so the 360 would accept it?  Just wondering.  I see a tool like this having possibilities of saving the $400 spent that billy boy now uses as toilet paper.

[mike96sc2]

QUOTE(Tex8503 @ Mar 20 2006, 05:14 PM)

Now... All you people who are crying "This will cause cheating and destroy live" don't get how this works.

If you modify the files on the disc - it won't boot using this firmware hack.
Simple and clean.

So you can't change the game disc in anyway and STILL get it to play. Let alone on live.

My concern is that MS will detect the modified firmware and screw everyone over by killing their boxes or banning them from live. Which would suck. But thats assuming they can find away to detect changes to the firmware of the drive through a dashboard update.

Thoughts ?

I'm exicted about this because I'm a poor college student and would like to play certain games I can't afford. I have a personal rule where if I play a game for more then a week or 2 - I buy it. Go team xecuter!

EDIT:
Oh... and about the possiblity of playing Xbox 1 copied games emulated - I don't see why it WOULDN'T work unless there is something in the emulation shit that checks the validity of the disc.

First - Um, game files CAN be modified, you can't modify the executable though.

Second - Poor College Student = Bullshit Lame Excuse You can afford a $400 gaming console you can afford to drop $40-$60 on a game.

Third - I hope MS does find a way to bend over all the kiddies who are all for the piracy aspect and ruin their Xbox. I bet they reserve the right too, check your terms of service.

What is really sad about here is there's a lot of people who have been on here for a long time, some longer than I have even who I didn't think were such blatent pirate kiddies and whatnot. I guess it takes something like this to learn who the people who ruin it for the rest are.

When X-S gets shit-canned for all this I won't be surprised. Thanks

[Wffsoccer]

QUOTE(youdontknow @ Mar 21 2006, 01:05 AM)

good work Xecuter!!!!!! if they start banning people, guess we'll need two dvd-drives one patched and the other one for Xbox live. here i come EBAY!!!!! TEAM XECUTER ROCKS

lol, good luck with that..

[Vegita]

QUOTE(Andy Hewitt @ Mar 21 2006, 03:15 AM)

I'm really trying not to get excited about this.

Unfortunatly, Its just Team Xecuter doing its usual thing.

Team ICE is declared to be a fake, Team Xecuter declare we will release a Modchip "SOON"
The Specialist figures out a Firmware hack and doesn't release. Team Xecuter declare they will release it and they "ENVISAGE" this is how they will make it work.

For Gods sake, Specialist has almost given full instruction on how to do it, all Team Xecuter are doing is cashing in on the hype and trying to keep a name for themselves.
The word "Envisage" means they are no more forward to supplying a finished article than I am !

Unless things have changed over the last few days, Specialist has managed to get 1 game at a time to boot by inserting the required codes for that title in the firmware. Its not a generic system and work is needed per title to get it to boot correctly. Its a work in progress and does anyone know what other problems he may run into?

All Team Xecuter have done with that announcement is give false hope, as until The Specialist and the rest of his team carry on with the work and manage to get a generic firmware created, noone and that includes Team Xecuter can do anything.

All that is happening here is MS are getting confirmation that this is to be released when it is finished. It gives them a heads-up and lets them figure out how to stop the new systems being built from being affected.

What if MS remove the Debug Codes from all New DVD Drives, thats way you cannot get the 4bit unique code out and the whole thing is Fecked. I'm not going to be suprised if games start getting more and more media checks to ensure its running from proper media and in a way that the firmware hack cannot emulate.

With all the hype Its quite possible that the hack may be stopped before its even started. It should have been kept secret until complete.

They're basically doing this for nothing--developing (and releasing) those tools to flash your dvdrom. It's a rule of thumb that when someone does something for nothing and you get it for free, you don't bitch about it.

[mrjkwik]

Oh, the piracy argument rears its ugly head again.

So, is it OK to copy a backup of your game to your harddrive with a modded xbox, even though thats circumventing copyright protection?

Is it OK to make a backup copy of a dvd that you own, even though thats circumventing copyright protection?

Is it OK to rip a CD you bought to your harddrive, even though thats circumventing copyright protection?

Is it OK to strip DRM out of Itunes music so that you can move it to a player that isnt an IPOD, even though thats circumventing copyright protection?

C'mon, 99% of people on this board would damn the DMCA if they could.  To say no to any of these means you support the DMCA.  If that truly is your feeling, you have that right.

But if you say yes to any of those, then that means your being a hypocrit.  Every one of those situations can and are used for piracy as well.  

If you support legitimate backups, then you have to take the good with the bad, and be consistent across the board.

Edit: Reference info about DMCA, a change to it that would allow "legal" backups, and how you can help.

[senas8]

Quote:Third - I hope MS does find a way to bend over all the kiddies who are all for the piracy aspect and ruin their Xbox. I bet they reserve the right too, check your terms of service.

What is really sad about here is there's a lot of people who have been on here for a long time, some longer than I have even who I didn't think were such blatent pirate kiddies and whatnot. I guess it takes something like this to learn who the people who ruin it for the rest are.
....Come on now...the reason they lost money with the first xbox is because of piracy? Hardware.

[pdottz]

QUOTE(heraldoffailure @ Mar 21 2006, 12:40 AM)

On a second note, MS used this site to beef the security on the 360.  We, the scene, were their biggest and best source of what they did wrong, and how to fix it.

Well we didn't want to, or mean to help them fix the 360, but I think it's up to some of use to make sure that they get the specialists research and make a patch to fix this firmware hack.

If you want the scene to live on, make sure they EVERYONE knows how this hack works.

The sooner MS get's this fixed, the sooner everyone can concentrate on what the scene is really here for.

my thoughts exactly. as i posted in the other thread. my guess alone is that m$ used the consumer to test out security on the 360. it's the only reason i can see for them not restocking the stores in a time fashion. not because of bullshit "shortages". if they really wanted to be number 1 then there'd be boxes for everyone on shelves. but like i said, i think we where just used (not us per se but the hackers) to test and break security on the box so future 360's would be better patched. aside from their beta testers and console testers, who better to use? the consumer of course....

[Pikkon]

Am I the only one who doesnt get excited about this.Of course MS with block this hack very soon,as they did on the Kiosk Demo.

[krayzie]

It's just like Executer grasps every bit of hacking news and hype it up some more to make themselves feel more important. Funny how everybody acts like executer are like gods or something. I think even if executer does any contributions to this it comes from allready pre designed apps and they just adjust it a little and stick their name to it and claim all the fame.

[Questioner]

Learn how to spell their name correctly before insulting them.

How quickly people forget what they have done for this community.